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PSA for Softaculous/Virtualizor users - Important Security Notification

Jamie_DreamITJamie_DreamIT Member, Host Rep

Just saw the email.

It has come to our attention that screenshots taken at regular intervals from our support employee(s) systems were inadvertently stored in a publicly accessible folder. These screenshots may have contained sensitive customer information, including server passwords submitted through our support systems between January and February 2025.

While the likelihood of any specific password appearing in these screenshots is low, we strongly recommend that you change your server passwords immediately if you submitted them via any of our support channels during this time.

However, we want to reassure you that there is no known or reported vulnerability in any of our software products.
None of our infrastructure has been compromised.

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  • zGatozGato Member

    totally unexpected.

    @providers move away of this shit already

  • AlyxAlyx Member, Host Rep

    This is odd
    Since they talk just about screenshots and nothing else, I assume it was not some rat or malware.

    So the whole making regular screenshots (of potential sensitive data) and then storing them somewhere was intentional?

  • zako12zako12 Member

    Good job people as incompetent as this don't develop any software where security is important... oh, wait :#

  • LeviLevi Member
    edited May 2025

    @Alyx said: Since they talk just about screenshots and nothing else, I assume it was not some rat or malware.

    This is a talk about remote employee monitoring system. Think about freelancer.com or fivver.com. You install application into your pc and when starting to work - press button "I'am working". Than, application at random intervals takes SS and sends it to the manager. At the end of the month / week / day manager reviews results, calculates real work time and confirms payment. Like snooping you know.

    This is very popular in Punjabi, Delhi, Bangalore etc. In short: India thing.

  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep
    edited May 2025

    Full mail below.
    If anyone is using their products, I would advise them to migrate.
    I am already looking into alternatives for autoinstallers with D.A. integration.
    Softaculous/Virtualizor's team is kinda developing a habit of getting hacked or misuse sensitive data.

    Dear Customer,
    We are writing to inform you of a security incident concerning our employee productivity >monitoring system.
    It has come to our attention that screenshots taken at regular intervals from our support >employee(s) systems were inadvertently stored in a publicly accessible folder. These >screenshots may have contained sensitive customer information, including server passwords >submitted through our support systems between January and February 2025.
    While the likelihood of any specific password appearing in these screenshots is low, we >strongly recommend that you change your server passwords immediately if you submitted >them via any of our support channels during this time.
    However, we want to reassure you that there is no known or reported vulnerability in any of >our software products.
    None of our infrastructure has been compromised.
    Steps We Are Taking to Mitigate Future Risk:

    • We are introducing a secure method across all products for customers to grant support >access using public/private key authentication, eliminating the need to share passwords.
    • All root logins in Virtualizor and Webuzo will trigger an email notification with the IP >address of the login attempt.
    • We will display a warning in the Admin Panel if a password is older than 3 months, >suggesting a reset.
    • API keys will include a recommendation to restrict access to specific IPs.
    • Our support system will send a follow-up email prompting password resets once a ticket is >closed.
      Important Note Regarding Password Storage:
      We have seen some misinformation regarding how we store passwords. Please be assured >that all end-user passwords are securely hashed and never stored in plain text.
      Recommended Customer Action:
      We strongly advise all customers to reset any passwords submitted through our support >systems (including ticket and chat) as a best practice—not just for our systems, but across >any support platform you use.
      We sincerely apologize for this incident and appreciate your prompt attention and >understanding as we work to enhance our systems and security protocols.
      Regards,
      The Softaculous Team
    Thanked by 2zGato zed
  • @HostSlick better migrate to

    Virtfuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuusion

    Thanked by 3zGato oloke tentor
  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    I really hope Virtualizor cleans stuff up.

    Thanked by 3oloke Calin jayjay
  • caracalcaracal Member

    "bug"

  • zGatozGato Member
    edited May 2025

    @jbiloh said:
    I really hope Virtualizor cleans stuff up.

    When does ColoCrossing clean their security mess?

    I don't know, but I have the feelings that what happened to ColoCrossing is related to this, and thus, even if they're at fault for their poor security practices, you guys are also for not changing credentials you sent to random agents (or by just handing them out in the first place)

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @zGato said:

    @jbiloh said:
    I really hope Virtualizor cleans stuff up.

    When does ColoCrossing clean their security mess?

    I don't know, but I have the feelings that what happened to ColoCrossing is related to this, and thus, even if they're at fault for their poor security practices, you guys are also for not changing credentials you sent to random agents (or by just handing them out in the first place)

    This is pretty telling: https://www.virtualizor.com/blog/virtualizor-3-2-5-patch-1/

    Either way, what is done is done and hopefully Virtualizor has all the weaknesses cleaned up. Plenty of people in this industry, including the team at Virtualizor spend tremendous effort building things. So discouraging when bad apples try to destroy things (security weaknesses or not).

  • LeviLevi Member

    @jbiloh said:

    @zGato said:

    @jbiloh said:
    I really hope Virtualizor cleans stuff up.

    When does ColoCrossing clean their security mess?

    I don't know, but I have the feelings that what happened to ColoCrossing is related to this, and thus, even if they're at fault for their poor security practices, you guys are also for not changing credentials you sent to random agents (or by just handing them out in the first place)

    This is pretty telling: https://www.virtualizor.com/blog/virtualizor-3-2-5-patch-1/

    Either way, what is done is done and hopefully Virtualizor has all the weaknesses cleaned up. Plenty of people in this industry, including the team at Virtualizor spend tremendous effort building things. So discouraging when bad apples try to destroy things (security weaknesses or not).

    Tremendous effort to build a thing where you store passwords in plain text. In business this called cookie cutting.

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @Levi said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @zGato said:

    @jbiloh said:
    I really hope Virtualizor cleans stuff up.

    When does ColoCrossing clean their security mess?

    I don't know, but I have the feelings that what happened to ColoCrossing is related to this, and thus, even if they're at fault for their poor security practices, you guys are also for not changing credentials you sent to random agents (or by just handing them out in the first place)

    This is pretty telling: https://www.virtualizor.com/blog/virtualizor-3-2-5-patch-1/

    Either way, what is done is done and hopefully Virtualizor has all the weaknesses cleaned up. Plenty of people in this industry, including the team at Virtualizor spend tremendous effort building things. So discouraging when bad apples try to destroy things (security weaknesses or not).

    Tremendous effort to build a thing where you store passwords in plain text. In business this called cookie cutting.

    Shouldn't ever happen. If it did, which it seems like some VNC passwords in some cases were, that was a mistake by the devs. Going to get fixed rapidly I am sure.

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @jbiloh said:

    @zGato said:

    @jbiloh said:
    I really hope Virtualizor cleans stuff up.

    When does ColoCrossing clean their security mess?

    I don't know, but I have the feelings that what happened to ColoCrossing is related to this, and thus, even if they're at fault for their poor security practices, you guys are also for not changing credentials you sent to random agents (or by just handing them out in the first place)

    This is pretty telling: https://www.virtualizor.com/blog/virtualizor-3-2-5-patch-1/

    Either way, what is done is done and hopefully Virtualizor has all the weaknesses cleaned up. Plenty of people in this industry, including the team at Virtualizor spend tremendous effort building things. So discouraging when bad apples try to destroy things (security weaknesses or not).

    Okay if you blame Virtualizor, why are you the only ones that got hacked?

  • RubbenRubben Member

    @Neoon said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @zGato said:

    @jbiloh said:
    I really hope Virtualizor cleans stuff up.

    When does ColoCrossing clean their security mess?

    I don't know, but I have the feelings that what happened to ColoCrossing is related to this, and thus, even if they're at fault for their poor security practices, you guys are also for not changing credentials you sent to random agents (or by just handing them out in the first place)

    This is pretty telling: https://www.virtualizor.com/blog/virtualizor-3-2-5-patch-1/

    Either way, what is done is done and hopefully Virtualizor has all the weaknesses cleaned up. Plenty of people in this industry, including the team at Virtualizor spend tremendous effort building things. So discouraging when bad apples try to destroy things (security weaknesses or not).

    Okay if you blame Virtualizor, why are you the only ones that got hacked?

    This got me thinking the same. Shouldn't have this been a much more widespread breach? Why only CC?

    Thanked by 1PineappleM
  • tarisutarisu Member, Host Rep

    We recieved the same mail, I don't understand why this kind of situation always happens with Softaculous products, a few months ago there was a problem with the server information shared on tawk.to. We try to take precautions on our side, but Softaculous software loses a lot of credibility in such cases. Lately we are very tired of this kind of situations and we are looking for alternatives.

    Thanked by 1MannDude
  • zGatozGato Member

    @tarisu said:
    We recieved the same mail, I don't understand why this kind of situation always happens with Softaculous products, a few months ago there was a problem with the server information shared on tawk.to. We try to take precautions on our side, but Softaculous software loses a lot of credibility in such cases. Lately we are very tired of this kind of situations and we are looking for alternatives.

    Virtfuuuuuuuuuusiooooooonnnnn

    Thanked by 1tentor
  • LeviLevi Member

    @Rubben said:

    @Neoon said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @zGato said:

    @jbiloh said:
    I really hope Virtualizor cleans stuff up.

    When does ColoCrossing clean their security mess?

    I don't know, but I have the feelings that what happened to ColoCrossing is related to this, and thus, even if they're at fault for their poor security practices, you guys are also for not changing credentials you sent to random agents (or by just handing them out in the first place)

    This is pretty telling: https://www.virtualizor.com/blog/virtualizor-3-2-5-patch-1/

    Either way, what is done is done and hopefully Virtualizor has all the weaknesses cleaned up. Plenty of people in this industry, including the team at Virtualizor spend tremendous effort building things. So discouraging when bad apples try to destroy things (security weaknesses or not).

    Okay if you blame Virtualizor, why are you the only ones that got hacked?

    This got me thinking the same. Shouldn't have this been a much more widespread breach? Why only CC?

    Did you read explanation from virtualizor? They said that “breach” was due to publically available screenshots. There was passwords in them which was provided via live chat.

  • @tarisu said:
    We recieved the same mail, I don't understand why this kind of situation always happens with Softaculous products, a few months ago there was a problem with the server information shared on tawk.to. We try to take precautions on our side, but Softaculous software loses a lot of credibility in such cases. Lately we are very tired of this kind of situations and we are looking for alternatives.

    Virtfuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuusion

    Thanked by 1tentor
  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @Rubben said:

    @Neoon said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @zGato said:

    @jbiloh said:
    I really hope Virtualizor cleans stuff up.

    When does ColoCrossing clean their security mess?

    I don't know, but I have the feelings that what happened to ColoCrossing is related to this, and thus, even if they're at fault for their poor security practices, you guys are also for not changing credentials you sent to random agents (or by just handing them out in the first place)

    This is pretty telling: https://www.virtualizor.com/blog/virtualizor-3-2-5-patch-1/

    Either way, what is done is done and hopefully Virtualizor has all the weaknesses cleaned up. Plenty of people in this industry, including the team at Virtualizor spend tremendous effort building things. So discouraging when bad apples try to destroy things (security weaknesses or not).

    Okay if you blame Virtualizor, why are you the only ones that got hacked?

    This got me thinking the same. Shouldn't have this been a much more widespread breach? Why only CC?

    Yes if you had an exploit, to break into every single fucking, Virtualizor instance, on this fucking planet.
    You would do that if they could and extort every single provider at the same time.

    Like we saw with SolusVM, when they got hacked.

  • sandozsandoz Veteran
    edited May 2025

    What a joke:

    @Jamie_DreamIT said: It has come to our attention that screenshots taken at regular intervals from our support employee(s) systems were inadvertently** stored in a publicly accessible folder**. These screenshots may have contained sensitive customer information, including server password

    To end with this:

    @Jamie_DreamIT said, None of our infrastructure has been compromised.

    What a joke! Seriously.

    Thanked by 2Rubben tentor
  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @Levi said:

    @Rubben said:

    @Neoon said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @zGato said:

    @jbiloh said:
    I really hope Virtualizor cleans stuff up.

    When does ColoCrossing clean their security mess?

    I don't know, but I have the feelings that what happened to ColoCrossing is related to this, and thus, even if they're at fault for their poor security practices, you guys are also for not changing credentials you sent to random agents (or by just handing them out in the first place)

    This is pretty telling: https://www.virtualizor.com/blog/virtualizor-3-2-5-patch-1/

    Either way, what is done is done and hopefully Virtualizor has all the weaknesses cleaned up. Plenty of people in this industry, including the team at Virtualizor spend tremendous effort building things. So discouraging when bad apples try to destroy things (security weaknesses or not).

    Okay if you blame Virtualizor, why are you the only ones that got hacked?

    This got me thinking the same. Shouldn't have this been a much more widespread breach? Why only CC?

    Did you read explanation from virtualizor? They said that “breach” was due to publically available screenshots. There was passwords in them which was provided via live chat.

    Yes I did, if they did that, they handed over, access, to 11k VM's on a golden plate.
    They didn't even bother changing API or passwords afterwards....

  • tarisutarisu Member, Host Rep

    @zGato said:

    @tarisu said:
    We recieved the same mail, I don't understand why this kind of situation always happens with Softaculous products, a few months ago there was a problem with the server information shared on tawk.to. We try to take precautions on our side, but Softaculous software loses a lot of credibility in such cases. Lately we are very tired of this kind of situations and we are looking for alternatives.

    Virtfuuuuuuuuuusiooooooonnnnn

    @cybertech said:

    @tarisu said:
    We recieved the same mail, I don't understand why this kind of situation always happens with Softaculous products, a few months ago there was a problem with the server information shared on tawk.to. We try to take precautions on our side, but Softaculous software loses a lot of credibility in such cases. Lately we are very tired of this kind of situations and we are looking for alternatives.

    Virtfuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuusion

    They don't have Wisecp integration as I know :/

  • tentortentor Member, Host Rep

    @tarisu said: Wisecp

    What's a wisecp and who needs it

  • zGatozGato Member
    edited May 2025

    @tentor said:

    @tarisu said: Wisecp

    What's a wisecp and who needs it

    Very common within Turkish hosts for what I've seen. Just like any other billing platform pretty much.

    Thanked by 2tentor JohnnySac
  • tarisutarisu Member, Host Rep
    edited May 2025

    @tentor said:

    @tarisu said: Wisecp

    What's a wisecp and who needs it

    Wisecp is a Web Hosting Management script made by Turkish Developers. Its like WHMCS, Blesta and Hostbill. We are not happy with them also :)

  • tentortentor Member, Host Rep

    @tarisu said: We are not happy with them also

    That doesn't sound wise

  • tarisutarisu Member, Host Rep

    @tentor said:

    @tarisu said: We are not happy with them also

    That doesn't sound wise

    yes ig :disappointed:

  • CloudHopperCloudHopper Member
    edited May 2025

    @Neoon said:

    @Levi said:

    @Rubben said:

    @Neoon said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @zGato said:

    @jbiloh said:
    I really hope Virtualizor cleans stuff up.

    When does ColoCrossing clean their security mess?

    I don't know, but I have the feelings that what happened to ColoCrossing is related to this, and thus, even if they're at fault for their poor security practices, you guys are also for not changing credentials you sent to random agents (or by just handing them out in the first place)

    This is pretty telling: https://www.virtualizor.com/blog/virtualizor-3-2-5-patch-1/

    Either way, what is done is done and hopefully Virtualizor has all the weaknesses cleaned up. Plenty of people in this industry, including the team at Virtualizor spend tremendous effort building things. So discouraging when bad apples try to destroy things (security weaknesses or not).

    Okay if you blame Virtualizor, why are you the only ones that got hacked?

    This got me thinking the same. Shouldn't have this been a much more widespread breach? Why only CC?

    Did you read explanation from virtualizor? They said that “breach” was due to publically available screenshots. There was passwords in them which was provided via live chat.

    Yes I did, if they did that, they handed over, access, to 11k VM's on a golden plate.
    They didn't even bother changing API or passwords afterwards....

    Strange not to rotate keys/passwords, especially given that an email was sent on February 20th 2025 informing clients that the Virtualizor Live Chat was compromised:
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/202897/virtualizor-live-chat-compromised

    Also, the fact no other provider has been compromised suggests either ColoCrossing was very unlucky, or more likely it's unrelated...same with the latest Virtualizor release where the VM firewall rules weren't being applied after a restart, but of course it was their Virtualizor panel that was compromised and not specific VMs.

    None of this seems related to them getting hacked. It looks more like obfuscation and PR rather than a serious incident response or any sort of root cause analysis, especially as they haven't informed their customers that their personal data has been leaked.

    Thanked by 2MannDude RapToN
  • tentortentor Member, Host Rep

    @tarisu said:

    @zGato said:

    @tarisu said:
    We recieved the same mail, I don't understand why this kind of situation always happens with Softaculous products, a few months ago there was a problem with the server information shared on tawk.to. We try to take precautions on our side, but Softaculous software loses a lot of credibility in such cases. Lately we are very tired of this kind of situations and we are looking for alternatives.

    Virtfuuuuuuuuuusiooooooonnnnn

    @cybertech said:

    @tarisu said:
    We recieved the same mail, I don't understand why this kind of situation always happens with Softaculous products, a few months ago there was a problem with the server information shared on tawk.to. We try to take precautions on our side, but Softaculous software loses a lot of credibility in such cases. Lately we are very tired of this kind of situations and we are looking for alternatives.

    Virtfuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuusion

    They don't have Wisecp integration as I know :/

    On a serious note I think it is not hard to develop an integration for Wisecp given that existing VirtFusion integrations are pretty simple

  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    @jbiloh said:
    I really hope Virtualizor cleans stuff up.

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