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Question for Providers: If chicken too old, why not change mothership?
Hey divas,
I hope the title got your attention.
Okay so like one of the posts here got me thinking if you still sell VMs on nodes that have like E5v3-4 Xeons, just why?
At this point I'd imagine those are pretty obsolete and a bunch of better, more powerful and more efficient hardware has come out since. I'd assume investing in more recent hardware would allow selling more VMs per host node + less electricity bill? = profit??
So like what are the economics, babes? What makes you keep E5v3-4 nodes around like the child you never wanted in the first place?
Your cunties diva,
Rubben
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here they say: you can learn to ride an old horse!
It's cheaper and 8/10 of the VPS are idle anyway. The two that aren't are running a proxy server for people in China. Why spend money on a new server?
what is chicken mean sir
E5v3-4 is old?
I see a lot of v2 still and I even have a VPS with E5-4650.
Works fine tho so not a big problem for me. I guess that's the overall tone. Those older platforms still work well enough for hosting while being significantly cheaper than shiny new stuff.
Sir Rubbing, would you like a cheap 9950X VPS? you can be the child I do not want.
sure bestie drop me the promo code
Chicken is a flightless bird that is domesticated by people, it lays round things called eggs that grow up to become other chickens. Both the chicken and the egg are very delicious.
They look like this:
i don't understand, what's wrong with old chicken
Old chicken is rubbery and stinks. Some platinum or epyc chickens much more enjoyable. But for new chickens you need new hen and probably rooster.
Question for rubie: does two roosters can eifel-tower third rooster and produce ryzen chicken?
why e-waste, if chicken still works, and people are still fine with it...
As a provider, from our point of view, they sell as people keep renting them. We want to supply what our clients want. We can continue to reach good price points to meet that demand. We also have newer servers too.
why sell e-waste when e-waste less money??
because you can put more chickens on a more powerful server that consumes less power sir?
i'd sue them because thats atrocious
ask mjj
Hey bestie, so how i see this is that if you swap to a newer server that has more perf, more efficient allows you to supply more clients per node, so more money. If you keep selling on older nodes, less clients per node, more electricity consumption, less money.
Hey, thanks for your reply. We not only sell E5 servers, but we also sell AMD Epyc and Ryzen servers. It is for our client to choose what is best for them.
Hi @Rubben
its basically quiet simple, what is better:
?
Yes, right. Instead of giving customers who already exist on the hardware ( and seem happy (enough) with it ) a free?!?! hardware upgrade, you will just leave them where they are and making money.
For more demanding customers / new customers you can make a new product on recent hardware.
We have some old 2-3 EUR / month VPS's contracts running on E5-2650Lv4 hardware. The customers are happy because they just pay 2-3 EUR / month for a good portion of resouces and we are happy as this hardware generates money.
If they buy new, they will come to SP 6230 CPU's but pay 4-5 EUR. Some prefer to spend the more on money to receive the more on resources / power.
And others are happy they still have their hands on the cheap servers providing enough resources for their use case.
I know providers who let their customers run on Xeon v1 hardware with 800 MHz DDR3 RAM. And they make tons of money selling this shit.
They simply have 0 motivation to trash working hardware if customers are stupid motivated enough to accept paying for this.
And based on my experience, thats actually the most smart move you can do if you want to make money.
If you are ( also like we do it actually ) updating your hardware frequently to make sure that you are somehow not totally in ancient ages, then you give up on a significant portion of your profit -- for the sake of not being bugged with old hardware.
For us, we do that because i dont want the serverstock not to be too much outdated. Its a strategic move to give up on old hardware in time before its value hits straight 0.
But thats definitely hurting profit, and definitely if you look on it absolutely, not the smartest move.
Riding a horse until its dead gives always the best return of investments. Its just like that.
ok diva ngl you kinda ate with this reply thank for the effort in explaining this
So a new provider sells price wise unsustainable chickens on old mothership. Then within a year, they EOL old mothership so that next year when they want to raise prices, they blame it on the old mothership.
So do I get my degree in MJJ now 😁
Well old hardware is cheap and not many providers cannot afford to build or rent a higher end server.
ok but electricity and rack space isn't cheap either
you didnt have to call out @colocrossing like that man
kind of a gamble with one possible outcome long term, tbh. eol’d and obsolete hw isn’t a good idea, at least not if you are doing it in huge quantities… not just because of power, etc.. but also because it will only attract a certain type of customer, and it’s only logical to wonder how long they will opt for obsolete hw when they can get something similar from a VPS provider which will probably be much better and probably much cheaper too..
but yeah… i would say it’s worth rethinking the strategy if it involves too much obsolete hw.. costs for spare parts and the time spent on fixing after a failure.. it just adds up.. sadly..
Stop lying, I've seen those things fly with my own eyes!
I can attest that chickens are capable of flight
@HostSlick should give his insight as well
can we have an E5 hall of shame?
Sold 8 dedicated Servers of that Just Today. Can i be top of The list?
ts pmo enjoy your 10 pesos mamma
What? You need business idea?
Buy e5 V2 for 75€
Rent it
Ddr ignore 250€/m
(Hint; this is sarcastic. Altough you indeed can get V2 Trash at this price)
Yes! I'm chicken farmer i can confirm
I have no issue with E5 or E3 CPUs, as they are usually used in low-end VPS and are quite cheap. What I don't understand is why I often see E5 offers under posts looking for dedicated servers, and the prices are no lower than those of much more powerful EPYC or Ryzen options. I have no idea who is actually buying them.