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Is freegetssl legit?

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  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited May 2025

    Oh well, students ...
    standing in a pile of garbage, together with some PhDs and a few profs and not even seing, let alone understanding, what monstrosity they live and argue in ...
    and of bloody course trying to throw purely academic arguments and names and funny, supposed to be impressive numbers at those who doubt their cult.

    Student-boy, as you obviously fail to recognize it although you're inmidst of it and even use it as an argument, do yourself a favour and shut up for a moment and THINK, really think and look again at what you just said!
    And then tell me, based on what you talk about this or that being secure - when EVERYTHING it's built on actually is known to be profoundly flawed, the processor, the OS, the plethora of libraries, even the languages and compilers.

    "we know it all" student said:
    But don’t let me ruin the world you’ve created in your mind where you’re the only one who’s smart enough to see that OpenSSL uses “probabilistic primes”.

    Nope, I'm certainly not the only one seeing that - but unlike you and your academic cultist friends who argue with 64 rounds of Miller-Rabin (btw. show some basic respect and write names of colleagues whose gravitas you are unlikely to reach properly with a capital first letter!) and impressively tiny (2 ^ -128) chances, yada, yada, I see and understand WHY. Because that's what RSA is based on. It's based on the fact that (evil) Eve can not (prime) factorize sufficiently large numbers, at least not with reasonable speed - but neither can Alice and Bob! Hence probable primes. And once technology has advanced to the point that one can, oh well, the size simply is doubled, e.g. from 1024 to 2048. But of course there's a possibility of a disruptive breakthrough like e.g. quantum computers ... and then the whole thing falls apart.

    So you see, the point here is not who is smarter, you or me, the point is theory vs reality, and know it all (in theory) vs decades of hand on experience (plus theoretical background).

    Short version: Yes, we need academics (not gender BS but real academics), and yes, we need new approaches and algorithms (e.g. 'pq'), but what we need even way more urgently is a solid basis on which to stand that is, solid languages, solid OSs, solid libraries - or in other words the capability to learn from our mistakes.

  • @ehhthing I suggest you stop arguing with @jsg

    There's no point having a debate with this person as he always thinks that he's all figured it out and he's more correct than you. Always spits put some BS to sound smart and would actually believe his own words. An empty vessel makes the loudest sound. I suggest you spend your precious time on something more meaningful.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @edoarudo5 said:
    @ehhthing I suggest you stop arguing with @jsg

    There's no point having a debate with this person as he always thinks that he's all figured it out and he's more correct than you. Always spits put some BS to sound smart and would actually believe his own words. An empty vessel makes the loudest sound. I suggest you spend your precious time on something more meaningful.

    Actual arguments: 0
    Actual "content": what some, pardon me, obviously not particularly smart guy "thinks" and feels.

    Very much unlike @ehhthing, who actually stayed on topic and offered arguments, even relevant ones, although somewhat biased.

    All you basically told us is two things, (a) you are stupid, and (b) you don't like me - which I actually appreciate.

  • @jsg said:
    Oh well, students ...
    standing in a pile of garbage, together with some PhDs and a few profs and not even seing, let alone understanding, what monstrosity they live and argue in ...
    and of bloody course trying to throw purely academic arguments and names and funny, supposed to be impressive numbers at those who doubt their cult.

    Student-boy, as you obviously fail to recognize it although you're inmidst of it and even use it as an argument, do yourself a favour and shut up for a moment and THINK, really think and look again at what you just said!
    And then tell me, based on what you talk about this or that being secure - when EVERYTHING it's built on actually is known to be profoundly flawed, the processor, the OS, the plethora of libraries, even the languages and compilers.

    "we know it all" student said:
    But don’t let me ruin the world you’ve created in your mind where you’re the only one who’s smart enough to see that OpenSSL uses “probabilistic primes”.

    Nope, I'm certainly not the only one seeing that - but unlike you and your academic cultist friends who argue with 64 rounds of Miller-Rabin (btw. show some basic respect and write names of colleagues whose gravitas you are unlikely to reach properly with a capital first letter!) and impressively tiny (2 ^ -128) chances, yada, yada, I see and understand WHY. Because that's what RSA is based on. It's based on the fact that (evil) Eve can not (prime) factorize sufficiently large numbers, at least not with reasonable speed - but neither can Alice and Bob! Hence probable primes. And once technology has advanced to the point that one can, oh well, the size simply is doubled, e.g. from 1024 to 2048. But of course there's a possibility of a disruptive breakthrough like e.g. quantum computers ... and then the whole thing falls apart.

    So you see, the point here is not who is smarter, you or me, the point is theory vs reality, and know it all (in theory) vs decades of hand on experience (plus theoretical background).

    Short version: Yes, we need academics (not gender BS but real academics), and yes, we need new approaches and algorithms (e.g. 'pq'), but what we need even way more urgently is a solid basis on which to stand that is, solid languages, solid OSs, solid libraries - or in other words the capability to learn from our mistakes.

    Aren't you the guy who professed to know everything about cryptocurrency - but couldn't actually use it in practice?

    Here you are basically doing the same thing.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @techdragon said:

    @jsg said:
    Oh well, students ...
    standing in a pile of garbage, together with some PhDs and a few profs and not even seing, let alone understanding, what monstrosity they live and argue in ...
    and of bloody course trying to throw purely academic arguments and names and funny, supposed to be impressive numbers at those who doubt their cult.

    Student-boy, as you obviously fail to recognize it although you're inmidst of it and even use it as an argument, do yourself a favour and shut up for a moment and THINK, really think and look again at what you just said!
    And then tell me, based on what you talk about this or that being secure - when EVERYTHING it's built on actually is known to be profoundly flawed, the processor, the OS, the plethora of libraries, even the languages and compilers.

    "we know it all" student said:
    But don’t let me ruin the world you’ve created in your mind where you’re the only one who’s smart enough to see that OpenSSL uses “probabilistic primes”.

    Nope, I'm certainly not the only one seeing that - but unlike you and your academic cultist friends who argue with 64 rounds of Miller-Rabin (btw. show some basic respect and write names of colleagues whose gravitas you are unlikely to reach properly with a capital first letter!) and impressively tiny (2 ^ -128) chances, yada, yada, I see and understand WHY. Because that's what RSA is based on. It's based on the fact that (evil) Eve can not (prime) factorize sufficiently large numbers, at least not with reasonable speed - but neither can Alice and Bob! Hence probable primes. And once technology has advanced to the point that one can, oh well, the size simply is doubled, e.g. from 1024 to 2048. But of course there's a possibility of a disruptive breakthrough like e.g. quantum computers ... and then the whole thing falls apart.

    So you see, the point here is not who is smarter, you or me, the point is theory vs reality, and know it all (in theory) vs decades of hand on experience (plus theoretical background).

    Short version: Yes, we need academics (not gender BS but real academics), and yes, we need new approaches and algorithms (e.g. 'pq'), but what we need even way more urgently is a solid basis on which to stand that is, solid languages, solid OSs, solid libraries - or in other words the capability to learn from our mistakes.

    Aren't you the guy who professed to know everything about cryptocurrency - but couldn't actually use it in practice?

    Here you are basically doing the same thing.

    Wrong. I never said that I know everything about crypto-"currency".

  • Can you all stop the the civil war you are in currently?

  • @jsg said:

    @edoarudo5 said:
    @ehhthing I suggest you stop arguing with @jsg

    There's no point having a debate with this person as he always thinks that he's all figured it out and he's more correct than you. Always spits put some BS to sound smart and would actually believe his own words. An empty vessel makes the loudest sound. I suggest you spend your precious time on something more meaningful.

    Actual arguments: 0
    Actual "content": what some, pardon me, obviously not particularly smart guy "thinks" and feels.

    Very much unlike @ehhthing, who actually stayed on topic and offered arguments, even relevant ones, although somewhat biased.

    All you basically told us is two things, (a) you are stupid, and (b) you don't like me - which I actually appreciate.

    I don't know about stupid but at least I know when to use "are" and "is" in a sentence. And yes, I've dealt a lot with people like you a lot in real life and know when someone actually sounds like they listen and keep an open mind vs. speaking some bullshit about facts they think are facts because they believe it.

  • titustitus Member
    edited May 2025

    Previously they also offered 90 days Sectigo DV/MultiDV certificates for free with user provided CSR (So in this case they not generated/'stored' the private keys). Probably it was "legit", and I loved it.. But sadly this offer ended some month ago. :(

    But since this gone, there is no fantasy in it in their current state for me.
    We have Certbot & acme.sh. :)

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @edoarudo5 said:

    @jsg said:

    @edoarudo5 said:
    @ehhthing I suggest you stop arguing with @jsg

    There's no point having a debate with this person as he always thinks that he's all figured it out and he's more correct than you. Always spits put some BS to sound smart and would actually believe his own words. An empty vessel makes the loudest sound. I suggest you spend your precious time on something more meaningful.

    Actual arguments: 0
    Actual "content": what some, pardon me, obviously not particularly smart guy "thinks" and feels.

    Very much unlike @ehhthing, who actually stayed on topic and offered arguments, even relevant ones, although somewhat biased.

    All you basically told us is two things, (a) you are stupid, and (b) you don't like me - which I actually appreciate.

    I don't know about stupid but at least I know when to use "are" and "is" in a sentence.

    Congratulations! I still often make mistakes in languages which are not my native language.

    And yes, I've dealt a lot with people like you a lot in real life and know when someone actually sounds like they listen and keep an open mind vs. speaking some bullshit about facts they think are facts because they believe it.

    I'm sorry for you, sincerely. Maybe one day you'll be able to discern and learn enough to know whether someone talks about facts or about something he/she considers a fact but which is not. Good luck on that journey, should you decide to make it!

    @titus said:
    Previously they also offered 90 days Sectigo DV/MultiDV certificates for free with user provided CSR (So in this case they not generated/'stored' the private keys). Probably it was "legit", and I loved it.. But sadly this offer ended some month ago. :(

    But since this gone, there is no fantasy in it in their current state for me.
    We have Certbot & acme.sh. :)

    Uhm, as much as I dislike letsencrap but they do provide certs based on CSRs created by you. Many just don't know that because nowadays acme & the likes create the CSR for you on your computer/server/whatever.

  • JasonPJasonP Member, Patron Provider

    FreeGetSSL doesn’t really offer anything unique, most of these sites are just middlemen for Let’s Encrypt or ZeroSSL, which means you end up depending on their uptime and policies.

    If you want free and reliable, it’s usually better to go straight to Let’s Encrypt, just keep in mind the certs only last 90 days and are limited to DV.

    For projects where you need stronger validation (OV/EV) or want long-term reliability, you can also look at providers like SSL2Buy. Along with discounted SSL certificates, they also support ACME automation for OV and DV certificates, so you still get the convenience of automated lifecycle management without being locked to a free proxy service.

    For more details, you can check out: https://www.ssl2buy.com/acme-certificate

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