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Nope, from what I've seen so far this offer isn't a crapbox/scam. It's much more expensive but if we really get a VDS with halfway decent performance it's not a bad deal.
Let's wait another day till I have a decent amount of runs under the belt.
Oh, and a warning to @MassiveGRID: This time the box better doesn't fall apart within days like the VPS recently! I have my finger close by the refund-trigger ...
To early to do your tests, let @MassiveGRID oversell it by 500%+ as usual then do your tests. Its taking longer for him to oversell this time due to his previous scams and tricks hes lost alot of faith here and many wont be falling for it again
I'll stay on the ball and do tests every few weeks and give feedback here when I see changes, just as I did with the crap VPS.
If someone donates $89 to us, we'll order the VDS and test the MassiveScam.
Breakdown:
Your site is back with a new scam. Unfortunately, the previous offer was very bad and your servers are useless. Friends, do not buy from this site.
My family has been in the VPS hosting industry since 1526, we still conserve the first receipt for 185 mill-powered VPSs bought by the republic of Venice.
You forgot a fee for waiting a couple months for them to oversell the resources before testing. They probably have empty-ish nodes for now.
lol just lol
Somebody do this on one of the previous shitboxes and let me know if you get $$.
Btw, the VDS already completed 9 runs! Unthinkable on the VPS.
Also for 1 core VPS?
Thank you @jsg for the benchmarks - we value constructive feedback. Our goal is to be able to offer the best quality and stability at best prices.
I'm passing your disk benchmark to our engineers for further investigation since it should be better.
As for the network, 500 Mbps is very low. We have ample network capacity in all our regions and should be definitely higher. Of course it depends on the capacity of the testing server and the connectivity between them. Could you please share how you benchmark the network? Is it speedtest or speedtest-cli?
As in regards for even better pricing for 2 vCore, 2 GB mem than the one on this offer, it'll be very hard without compromising the performance and we don't want to do that. We want to be able to be financially viable given the costs of enterprise hardware, equinix datacenters, Tier-1 network and redundancies for the H/A, this offer here is the absolute best we can do without sharing resources.
Please keep the feedback coming, we value it and helps us become better.
XEON - 2 GB RAM - 32 GB H/A SSD - 20 TB traffic - 1 IPv4 included - 10 Gbps port!
Price not as shown here.
Hi @Merlincool please provide more info. I just re-checked and the prices are as shown on the offer page.
Neither, because those basically are marketing tools making the providers look better, often even much better, than what customers really get.
My benchmark does real http downloads, real pings, plus "web pings", which show the time to a first http response so as to allow to recognize results that are tainted by "sleepy" target servers.
In short, it shows what a customer can really expect to get.
You won't wait in vain, I just saw that I already got almost 40 results, clearly indicating that this offer, those VDS servers are at least to utterly crappy (like your VPSs) and maybe even good.
Benchmark results upcoming soon ...
so would that also apply on the previous offer with teh VPSs that are kinda not usable..?
cus i asked if i could get a refund for the other 32 months and you guys said no. would be cool if you honor this for the previous offer too.. because i've had enough BS about this..
The only good thing this provider has is marketing PR, buzzwords, and writing in ALL CAPS as if they are constantly screaming at you. If even beyond all that you still choose to buy a plan, limit your use of the service to either (1) idling or (2) disposable hobby tasks that you won't mind losing if the server goes offline forever tomorrow. Do not run anything developmental or production on this provider. You have been fairly warned (but I'm sure we'll get outage complaints anyway).
An "unlimited money back guarantee" is a mere marketing gimmick and frankly sounds like a red flag of a provider that plans to exit scam in the future to entice people to give them money now. I can't see how that is sustainable whatsoever when there are many bills, payroll paychecks, and possible debt obligations to be paid.
Done. Here's the results, based on over 25 runs.
First as usual sysinfo and processor&memory
No nested virtualization, who cares on a single core VM? Certainly not me. Otherwise, all the flags are there, incl. AVX2.
But there's a 'but', and an ugly one: look at the single core spread! That doesn't look very dedicated to me. My real VDS from netcup looks much tighter. I won't go so far as saying that this MG VDS isn't a VDS but it certainly looks at least crammed to the brim. Besides those numbers aren't nice even for a E5v4 VPS, I've seen better on plain VPS.
That said, the main question is answered: NO, this is not yet another thing between crap and scam as MG's recent VPS sales. This is an actually usable VM, not a hot and fast one, but a usable one.
Now, on to the disk
See, that's why it's important to make multiple runs! My "first impression" single run yesterday made the VDS look significantly better in some aspects (like read speed) and significantly worse in others (e.g. 4k/4t IOps). I happened to have a particularly good run with 64KB reads over 1 GB/s and 1MB reads even over 2 GB/s. Now however with a more complete picture it becomes clear that read speeds over 1 GB/s can be expected only with 1 MB block size and only with sequential reads (i.e. not e.g. with databases).
On the other hand IOps looks much better now with an average of not exactly exciting 7.7 MB 4k/4t writes which is, albeit at the lower end, in the range of "actually usable". Plus a halfway decent IOps of almost 2000.
It should be noted though that the numbers also show that while on average you can expect reasonable performance, occasionally performance goes down heftily. So in case you want to use that VM for some application be sure to (a) take a VDS with more memory (not 1 GB) which actually is not much more expensive than the 1 GB version, and (b) have your application use caching, or else you'll get harsh complaints occasionally. For a (preferredly static) web site for example, be sure to either put a caching proxy in front of it or use a web server with built-in caching (like. e.g. nginx).
I'm not concerned with the performance numbers, this are OK albeit on the lower end - but light years ahead of the VPS crap they sold. What concerns me is the performance lottery, the occasional deep dives.
Finally, connectivity
That in my eyes actually is the strong point of that offer, albeit with a caveat (you can't see because as usual I picked the better result if there were multiple for a location).
Those results - in particular for a relatively cheap server - are quite nice. OK, no Gb/s results (which are not to be expected anyway for such a product nor IMO really important for the vast majority of use cases) but really decent results, especially in terms of "decent all over the globe*, an aspect that IMO often is overlooked because people are fascinated by peak numbers. But what's the worth of a few impressive Gb/s numbers when outside of one's region connectivity is poor? After all, most of mere mortals web sites do have at least occasional visitors from far away.
So what I tend to look for is very good numbers in the region but also halfway decent numbers all over the globe.
Besides, those numbers here are very decent even by themselves. Almost all over central Europe 250 Mb/s or more, nice. Over 100 Mb/s to the Near East ("arabian region"), very nice, I'm impressed by > 120 Mb/s to Iran. Less impressive but still quite decent are the (mid to far east) Asia numbers. As for Africa, well that's one (complete) miss, one hit and quite decent. And the numbers across the Atlantic are quite good as well, almost impressive. OK, the Chicago result should be better, but both the east coast and the west coast number are impressive. (A bit) over 80 Mb/s to LAX is something I don't see often.
But there are shadows too. Many of the secondary targets, some of them very well connected like e.g. xtom, didn't work at all; they were reachable but failed to download, meh. So, to put in bluntly, it's a bit of a lottery. Either there is no working connectivity at all or it's good or even very good. I think MG should work on their connectivity, work as in "some of it is really good but try to make all routes at least work acceptably".
Summary/verdict:
So far I'm relatively pleased by my MG VDS, relatively as in "I'm surprised to get a largely decently working VM from them", but also as in "Hmmm. it's about $100, give or take, for 4 years, or about the same I pay for 1 year of my netcup VDS - but that one has 4 cores, 8 GB memory, and a large - and fast - drive. So actually with MG I pay a netcup price, but for much less and less great!".
And that IMO is the real problem with that MG VDS. It costs about the same (per core) as a much, much better netcup VDS. It's only advantage is that it's cheaper because it only has 1 vCore. At the same time, considering that MG's VPS are worthless unusable crap, this VDS basically is the way to get a small but actually usable VM from MG, which boils down to "is MassiveGrid per se a reason to want a VM?", and IMO the answer is a clear "No".
I personally have no problem with that purchase. I can afford it - and it's not really cheap! - but the reason why I keep it is mainly peace of mind for 4 years, no worries about overlooking a payment, nope, that thing and its IP is out there for years, period, done.
At the same time though, in summary, this offer is not attractive or exciting in terms of bang per buck or quality; at the end of the day it's just a boring average, somewhat low-end VM for a halfway decent price.
My dirt cheap VPS - and really great performer! - from @xHosts is exciting, my dirt-cheap VPS from @Chunkserve is a great deal, my zerocloud VPS is a great deal, my @host_c storage VPS is an insanely good deal - this MG VM isn't, it's only advantage IMO is peace of mind, otherwise it's boring and mediocre. Greencloud / @NDTN is a go-to provider, MG isn't.
Finally THE question: Is this MG VDS a scam? Nope, I don't think so. Obviously with MG I'll have to check from time to time whether this server still performs reasonably after their VPS clusterfuck, but so far it's kind of boring but not a scam.
I don't see any reason to recommend that product, let alone the company MG, but neither do I see a reason to warn you to stay away.
Yo @MassiveGRID can we get a direct answer here?
can i host my gay porn website there
Stay away from this provider who is promising features and stability but has a history of not delivering on those promises!
MassiveGRID UK VPS Down 2025-05-15 16:30:40 PING 185.44.*.* (185.44.*.2*) 56(84) bytes of data. From 5.10.31.62 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable From 5.10.31.62 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable From 5.10.31.62 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable --- 185.44.*.* ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, +3 errors, 100% packet loss, time 111ms pipe 3@MassiveGRID Fix issues with your network first before posting another offer, there are multiple downtime everyday that i have to turn off notifications for this particular VPS.
How would the chances of those VPS being alive for say, 2 years be slimmer than lasting 4 years?
That seems to be true. My own request also was answered only very recently. But I don't take this as a problem but rather as a symptom of them being overwhelmed by the sheer number of orders.
That said, my german VPS still isn't upgraded to 4 years.
That's at least largely true.
Me not know nor care.
How melodramatic to show an error screen! My personal experience is different. Their panel works, albeit somewhat slowly at times. And it works fine. As for the update I myself didn't see any significant difference but that my be me not looking closely because, frankly, I don't care. Their panel works fine and that good enough for me.
But yes, making noise about an upgraded panel without striking (recognizable at first sight) differences/improvements is not smart from MG.
Care to show evidence? Don't get me wrong, I do not like their VPS, not at all, and it's terribly slow but I did not notice significant uptime problems. I just looked and saw that my London VPS has 23 days uptime, so it was rebooted but that's not "down half the time".
TL;DR a bit less melodramatic and no exaggerations, please. Yes, their VPS are crappy as hell and next to unusable but we didn't get scammed. Somewhat fucked, yes, but scammed, no.
@MassiveGRID
Please upgrade all VPS - and VDS! - paid in advance for 3 years to 4 years without further delay!
this should be extended to the previous deals that were offered here as well. thats putting money where your mouth is.
i agree
scam? nah
shitbox? yeah
fortunately, my 4 years plan (fra) from them is running well untill now. not too much downtime, network is good also. not bad for what i've paid
Don't waste your money, their uptime is horrible.
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MassiveScam is here again
It says I can order monthly, but it doesn't allow me in image.
Order page
I want this in monthly?
» Dedicated Intel Xeon CPU vCores: 8$203.68 USD
» RAM DDR4 ECC Registered (GB): 32$101.44 USD
» Primary High Availability SSD Storage (GB): 1024$491.52 USD
$796.64 USD
Total Due Today
Hi @Nanja, the monthly order link for New York VDS is here: https://portal.massivegrid.com/index.php/store/ha-cloud-dedicated-servers/ha-cloud-vds-in-new-york