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Celebrating 14 years in business - NVMe & Storage deals inside

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  • @yolo_me said:

    @dsh said:
    I have 2gb ram, 2tb LA storage vps with 16tb bandwidth that no longer need. It's 95$/2 year plan.

    I need the compute VPS man. Anyone else?

    Highly unlikely. The quality of these beasts are amazing. Every now and then someone offers one in service transfers here on the forum, I'd keep an eye there.

  • hosthatchhosthatch Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited May 2025

    Hello all,

    Thank you for all the birthday wishes. We're very thankful for the LET community for being a big (if not the biggest) part of it. As you all know, it has not all been perfect over the years :)

    I will go through all the comments and answer each one. Please excuse me and feel free to ask again if I miss anything.

    @bdl said: I found latency and dropout outs to east coast Australia (on a GSL connection) than Greencloud, however much faster to HK than Greencloud . Also high iowait on storage server but no downtime.

    We can always reroute where needed, just did a bunch of these yesterday with the help of GSL (halved latency in most cases to AU ISPs from Singapore). We have multiple upstreams in each location, so even if GSL would not be able to help, we would have an alternate route. Singapore still does not have the new version of our storage nodes, so that should be fixed in the (near) future. Please always ticket in such issues so we can optimize if possible, for everyone :)

    @noisycode said: Not stackable this time?

    Nearly always stackable (other than flash / 24gb plans).

    @Protocol903 said:
    Sorry for dumb question, the bandwidth is monthly? Especially the APAC region? Cuz if it is, it might be too hard for me to resist.

    Always monthly, 1st to 1st of each month.

    @SirFoxy said:
    Congratulations @hosthatch — y’all run a great operation and I’m glad to see your success. Truly the best example of a grassroots LET host.

    Thank you, would definitely not be possible without LET being a big part of it.

    @FAT32 said: Can @hosthatch drops some $7/yr VPS in APAC so I can buy, finally become a HH user, and try to debug the support ticket cannot be submitted issue?

    Anything to bribe a fellow admin.... :smiley: I'm only a PM away, we'll keep it secret.

    @PineappleM said: @hosthatch not to hijack your thread like others did, but are there plans to upgrade existing storage servers in Sweden to include a small NVME boot disk? I wanted to ask here and not clog up your ticket system since you said you had over a thousand open tickets some time ago.

    Our ticket queue is very much under control with an average response time under 30 minutes in the past 2 months. I don't want to jinx it though, but please feel free to open a ticket about this if you haven't gotten the migration email. We're doing this already in Stockholm. The only location we cannot do this yet is Amsterdam, but hopefully that is only a few weeks away as well.

    @icepic said: Would you mind increasing the bandwidth of the storage server from a few years ago? The bandwidth at that time seems insufficient now.

    >

    We cannot retroactively apply upgrades like this unfortunately, at it opens another can of worms. The general rule we have for this for now is no.

    @zGato said: did a few speedtests and my IP got nullrouted lol

    Our network level limits were a bit outdated, especially since we've added 100G ports in many locations. We've applied a bunch of optimizations on the VM level, as well as network level. You will need to power cycle the VM (from the control panel, to rewrite the XML of the VM with the changes). Please do run some new benches and let me know if you see any improvements.

    @songtianlun said: No, don't try this, Hosthatch doesn't like it. They seem to hate people sending them tickets. So they reply to every ticket lazily. Sending too many tickets will make them angry and stop providing service to you.

    >

    Indeed, especially opening multiple emergency tickets (reserved for service affecting issues) will immediately get you a no no from any promo services.

    @plumberg said: You all have lots of moolah

    Lambo coming soon

    @barbaros said: I think big factor about that is, we basically pre-ordered stuff

    For the most part, not really. We've stopped doing "pre orders" as much as we can after we made an internal decision on this. We either already have the capacity, or its on the way (i,e before deals are even posted).

    @Tarball said: I experienced a similar thing - is there a better way to handle this besides nullrouting? I understand the ports are shared and can't be constantly maxed out, but I would much prefer to have a speed cap applied rather than completely lose connectivity for a few minutes.

    Indeed, already resolved - please see above. Sorry it took this long.

    @PineappleM said: Does anyone know what is “fair share” for the storage servers? I’m wondering if it’s OK to do file compression on it on one of the cores, though I’ll obviously space it out (e.g. 1 min sleep between files) to avoid using too much CPU.

    Should be perfectly fine.

    @barbaros said: But afaik, there is no any specific place that you can follow your dedicated core or only use that etc.

    The only real way to do this is to remove all fair shared cores. Some of our users do this (who require 0 steal at all times). Our prices for dedicated cores are very competitive compared to some of the bigger players (DO, Vultr etc). We don't do the German style "free for all" dedicated cores.

    @jsg said:
    I have (and want) to apologize to @hosthatch.

    Reason: the problem (could not create a ticket) was on my side, not their's. The cause was a not very commonly used browser. I tried it again with a widely and commonly used "standard" browser and with that it did work fine.

    My fault, again, apologies, hosthatch!

    Very happy to see this is resolved. :)

  • its nice to see HH with a greatly improved PR and happy to be customer again. also much better storage than before.

  • Long days to Go man @hosthatch 🤞✌️

  • @hosthatch when are you going to do the next sale thread?

  • webcraftwebcraft Member
    edited May 2025

    When will you implement your new panel?

  • SmigitSmigit Member

    noticed the pooled bandwidth is now displaying and tracking.

    You've used 0.01% (20.40 GB) out of 196.00 TB pooled bandwidth in LAX

    :love:

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @Smigit said:
    noticed the pooled bandwidth is now displaying and tracking.

    You've used 0.01% (20.40 GB) out of 196.00 TB pooled bandwidth in LAX

    :love:

    196tb?

    How many pools do you have

  • @plumberg said:

    @Smigit said:
    noticed the pooled bandwidth is now displaying and tracking.

    You've used 0.01% (20.40 GB) out of 196.00 TB pooled bandwidth in LAX

    :love:

    196tb?

    How many pools do you have

    Seems like he has Olympic sized swimming pool

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @barbaros said:

    @plumberg said:

    @Smigit said:
    noticed the pooled bandwidth is now displaying and tracking.

    You've used 0.01% (20.40 GB) out of 196.00 TB pooled bandwidth in LAX

    :love:

    196tb?

    How many pools do you have

    Seems like he has Olympic sized swimming pool

    I knew it
    Hence asked how many

  • wadhahwadhah Member, Host Rep
    edited May 2025

    @Smigit said:
    noticed the pooled bandwidth is now displaying and tracking.

    You've used 0.01% (20.40 GB) out of 196.00 TB pooled bandwidth in LAX

    :love:

    sorry for the low quality meme, hadnt had my coffee yet

  • Spo0lshSpo0lsh Member

    Sorry, the page you are looking for could not be found.

    :'(

  • SmigitSmigit Member
    edited May 2025

    @plumberg said:

    @Smigit said:
    noticed the pooled bandwidth is now displaying and tracking.

    You've used 0.01% (20.40 GB) out of 196.00 TB pooled bandwidth in LAX

    :love:

    196tb?

    How many pools do you have

    It’s mostly 2x storage plans and a 24GB NVMe plan. Top of my head they’re 60TBx2 and 50TB. There’s a couple of much smaller contributors, 4GB or something flash VPS.

    Clearly at 0.01%, I’m not burning through bandwidth

  • @hosthatch said: Nearly always stackable (other than flash / 24gb plans).

    Can someone kindly explain what this means? HostHatch promotional plans can be stacked so for example 2c/4g can be stacked to become 4c/8g, that sort of thing? Everything stacked (bandwidth, storage)? How would one go about doing this, order multiple quantities and then open a ticket or what?

    Thanks!

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @Smigit said:

    @plumberg said:

    @Smigit said:
    noticed the pooled bandwidth is now displaying and tracking.

    You've used 0.01% (20.40 GB) out of 196.00 TB pooled bandwidth in LAX

    :love:

    196tb?

    How many pools do you have

    It’s mostly 2x storage plans and a 24GB NVMe plan. Top of my head they’re 60TBx2 and 50TB. There’s a couple of much smaller contributors, 4GB or something flash VPS.

    Clearly at 0.01%, I’m not burning through bandwidth

    you better start burning through that
    No more idling

  • SmigitSmigit Member

    @Smigit said:

    @plumberg said:

    @Smigit said:
    noticed the pooled bandwidth is now displaying and tracking.

    You've used 0.01% (20.40 GB) out of 196.00 TB pooled bandwidth in LAX

    :love:

    196tb?

    How many pools do you have

    It’s mostly 2x storage plans and a 24GB NVMe plan. Top of my head they’re 60TBx2 and 50TB. There’s a couple of much smaller contributors, 4GB or something flash VPS.

    Clearly at 0.01%, I’m not burning through bandwidth

    So just looked, 6 vps contributing. 60 / 60 / 50 / 10 / 10 / 6

    Thanked by 1plumberg
  • SmigitSmigit Member

    @plumberg said:

    @Smigit said:

    @plumberg said:

    @Smigit said:
    noticed the pooled bandwidth is now displaying and tracking.

    You've used 0.01% (20.40 GB) out of 196.00 TB pooled bandwidth in LAX

    :love:

    196tb?

    How many pools do you have

    It’s mostly 2x storage plans and a 24GB NVMe plan. Top of my head they’re 60TBx2 and 50TB. There’s a couple of much smaller contributors, 4GB or something flash VPS.

    Clearly at 0.01%, I’m not burning through bandwidth

    you better start burning through that
    No more idling

    Maybe I need to turn a few into syncthing relays

    Thanked by 1plumberg
  • JabJabJabJab Member

    As this turned out to be a ask-me-anything thread.
    I remember long time ago you mentioned migrating business to Europe company for some reason. It is done? It's cancelled? ETA?
    I haven't bought anything this sale so no idea if invoice changed :D

  • wadhahwadhah Member, Host Rep

    @nitrousdev said:

    @hosthatch said: Nearly always stackable (other than flash / 24gb plans).

    Can someone kindly explain what this means? HostHatch promotional plans can be stacked so for example 2c/4g can be stacked to become 4c/8g, that sort of thing? Everything stacked (bandwidth, storage)? How would one go about doing this, order multiple quantities and then open a ticket or what?

    Thanks!

    Exactly how you said it yes. You would lose the extra IPs but you would gain a much more powerful single machine. It is usually done with a ticket to support.

    This is what traditionally stacking means, different hosts can have different rules/requirements etc

    @hosthatch can explain it further!

  • @wadhah said:
    Exactly how you said it yes. You would lose the extra IPs but you would gain a much more powerful single machine. It is usually done with a ticket to support.

    This is what traditionally stacking means, different hosts can have different rules/requirements etc

    @hosthatch can explain it further!

    Got it, thank you so much for the help! Very interesting to know that there may be other providers also offering it, never heard about that before.

    Thanked by 1wadhah
  • PineappleMPineappleM Member
    edited May 2025

    Technically the provider makes extra profit from VPS stacking because they reclaim an IPv4 and (sometimes) a 10G line that they can redeploy to another customer, so it can be a win-win for both sides.

    Not everyone offers it though since their systems may not be flexible enough to support it or it is too much manual hassle than it is worth.

    Thanked by 2wadhah nitrousdev
  • wadhahwadhah Member, Host Rep
    edited May 2025

    @nitrousdev said:

    @wadhah said:
    Exactly how you said it yes. You would lose the extra IPs but you would gain a much more powerful single machine. It is usually done with a ticket to support.

    This is what traditionally stacking means, different hosts can have different rules/requirements etc

    @hosthatch can explain it further!

    Got it, thank you so much for the help! Very interesting to know that there may be other providers also offering it, never heard about that before.

    not to derail the thread but just providing an example, here's the lovely @host_c 's rules for stacking/upgrading

    https://host-c.com/knowledgebase/24/Service-Upgrade-Rules.html

    Thanked by 2nitrousdev host_c
  • @PineappleM said:
    Technically the provider makes extra profit from VPS stacking because they reclaim an IPv4 and (sometimes) a 10G line that they can redeploy to another customer, so it can be a win-win for both sides.

    Not everyone offers it though since their systems may not be flexible enough to support it or it is too much manual hassle than it is worth.

    Yes, that does make total sense. Are there any providers that would let you keep all the IPs, or is that rare to none?

  • SmigitSmigit Member
    edited May 2025

    @wadhah said:

    @nitrousdev said:

    @hosthatch said: Nearly always stackable (other than flash / 24gb plans).

    Can someone kindly explain what this means? HostHatch promotional plans can be stacked so for example 2c/4g can be stacked to become 4c/8g, that sort of thing? Everything stacked (bandwidth, storage)? How would one go about doing this, order multiple quantities and then open a ticket or what?

    Thanks!

    Exactly how you said it yes. You would lose the extra IPs but you would gain a much more powerful single machine. It is usually done with a ticket to support.

    This is what traditionally stacking means, different hosts can have different rules/requirements etc

    @hosthatch can explain it further!

    In the past they also noted that the percentage of ‘dedicated cores’ goes up, but not shared cores.

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3735007#Comment_3735007

    When you stack multiple plans, only the dedicated CPU percentage is carried over. For 24 cores, you would need 12 of those instances, since each of them comes with 2 dedicated cores.

    and I think the plan being referenced was this

    4 AMD EPYC cores (200% dedicated, burstable up to 400%)

    I don’t quite know if this is still how that is interpreted given its from Q4 2023, or how it works out when doing plans of different sizes. In that topic the 4 core plan was $145 while a 3 core one was $75, so they were naturally avoiding a scenario where people buy multiple 3 core plans for $150 to get 6 cores, and making the 4 core one less appealing.

    Thanked by 2nitrousdev tumble
  • @Smigit said:
    In the past they also noted that the percentage of ‘dedicated cores’ goes up, but not shared cores.

    Oh if that's still the case then the calculations would have to change very drastically haha, that'd basically mean the primary advantage for stacking is for RAM, no?

  • zGatozGato Member

    @JabJab said:
    As this turned out to be a ask-me-anything thread.
    I remember long time ago you mentioned migrating business to Europe company for some reason. It is done? It's cancelled? ETA?
    I haven't bought anything this sale so no idea if invoice changed :D

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4398744/#Comment_4398744

    Thanked by 3JabJab the_doctor admax
  • SmigitSmigit Member
    edited May 2025

    @nitrousdev said:

    @Smigit said:
    In the past they also noted that the percentage of ‘dedicated cores’ goes up, but not shared cores.

    Oh if that's still the case then the calculations would have to change very drastically haha, that'd basically mean the primary advantage for stacking is for RAM, no?

    Might depend on the plan and if your use case suits it. You do get double NVME and bandwidth also. For a plan like the following where normally 50% of the cores are dedicated, stacking 2x would make 100% of the cores dedicated and perhaps that lets you treat it as if it was a VDS.

    4 CPU cores (2 dedicated core, 2 fairly shared cores) ROME/MILAN
    16 GB RAM
    200 GB NVMe storage
    25 TB premium bandwidth
    $100 per year
    (2X RAM, storage, and bandwidth for 3 year payments for Chicago & Stockholm only)

    Some others you still get more dedicated CPU, but might need to stack more plans to get to 100% dedicated CPU as the standard percentage of dedicated resources is lower.

    I’m sure they can clarify the current policy but. It did seem somewhat geared towards getting specs above and beyond the highest tier plan offered by combining multiple of those, rather than getting gains by playing with the smaller plans, where just paying for the next tier probably wins out (and saves their support effort).

    edit: Also might make sense for a storage VPS if the storage is doubling, and you needed something with more than the largest advertised plan.

  • Right okay that makes sense, thanks for the insights @Smigit !

    Thanked by 1Smigit
  • hosthatchhosthatch Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @webcraft said:
    When will you implement your new panel?

    It's been "beta ready" for quite a while now, but we're trying to get some more stuff added before allow customers on it. Should be in the next couple of weeks.

    @JabJab said:
    As this turned out to be a ask-me-anything thread.
    I remember long time ago you mentioned migrating business to Europe company for some reason. It is done? It's cancelled? ETA?
    I haven't bought anything this sale so no idea if invoice changed :D

    We cancelled that plan and decided to keep it in the US.

    @Smigit said: It did seem somewhat geared towards getting specs above and beyond the highest tier plan offered by combining multiple of those, rather than getting gains by playing with the smaller plans, where just paying for the next tier probably wins out (and saves their support effort).

    Pretty much this. We're not going to stack multiple plans so someone can save a couple dollars and get an extra core or two instead of getting the next plan. We only do it in cases where it makes logical sense.

  • hosthatchhosthatch Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    As a number of people have asked - we will reactivate some of these deals on 11th May, for 24 hours. Nothing new/fancy/crazy, but in case you missed them the last time, please grab one during these 24 hours.

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