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Selling VPS from Kimsufi Dedicated Servers – Any Issues I Should Be Aware Of?

vpscpvpscp Member
edited May 2025 in Help

Hi everyone,

I currently have two Kimsufi dedicated servers, both running well with Virtualizor installed and configured with additional IPs. I’ve set up a few VPS instances for personal use and everything is working flawlessly so far. I’m considering offering small VPS plans for sale based on these servers, but I wanted to get some feedback from the community first.

Here are the server specs:

Server 1 – KS-LE-1:
- CPU: Intel Xeon E5-1620v2 – 4c/8t – 3.7GHz/3.9GHz
- RAM: 32GB DDR3 1333 MHz
- Storage: 2×2TB HDD SATA (Soft RAID)

Server 2 – KS-LE-1:
- CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1245v2 – 4c/8t – 3.4GHz/3.8GHz
- RAM: 32GB DDR3 1333 MHz
- Storage: 2×480GB SSD SATA (Soft RAID)

I’ve set up Virtualizor on both, added failover IPs from OVH/Kimsufi, and the VPS instances work fine with custom ISO images and clean networking.

My questions are:

  1. Are there any known issues with reselling VPS using Kimsufi servers, either from a technical, legal, or policy standpoint?
  2. I know Kimsufi is not marketed as a "reseller-friendly" option compared to OVH or SoYouStart — does anyone here have experience doing this successfully?
  3. Anything I should be careful about when offering low-end VPS using these specs?

Also, I’m planning to get a Storage Box for offsite backups. Would that be a good fit for this kind of setup? Any performance or reliability issues I should be aware of?

Lastly, if anyone is using SYS (SoYouStart) servers for similar purposes, do you find them more suitable for low-end VPS resale compared to Kimsufi?

I’m not aiming for huge volumes, just a few hobbyist/low-cost VPS offerings. Any insights or recommendations are much appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

Comments

  • conceptconcept Member

    $7/yr vps?

  • webcraftwebcraft Member
    edited May 2025

    These CPUs are not even worth low amounts of money, just like small sata storage. The cost for IPv4 and Virtualizor license in addition.

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  • vpscpvpscp Member

    @concept said: $7/yr vps?

    Sorry, I asked this through LET only for the purpose of seeking advice.

  • AlyxAlyx Member, Host Rep
    edited May 2025

    Puh... I think you might run into some issues if you plan to start a hosting business with that hardware.

    The competition in this industry is hard and most providers, if not all, are using much more powerful hardware and offer better performance.

    Personally, I offer VMs powered by Ryzen 9 7950X3D CPUs, DDR5 RAM, and RAID10 NVMe storage, starting at $5 per month, and I'm not even considered a "cheap" by LET standards.

    How low do you want to go with your price to make this a competitive offer?

    If you’re thinking of sharing the server with a few friends, sure that could work, but selling VPS to a public audience would be challenging.

  • tarisutarisu Member, Host Rep

    If you are getting IPs from OVH, they may be strict about abuse complaints. Its better for announcing your own IPs to them in my opinion.

    Thanked by 1vpscp
  • unsafetypinunsafetypin Member
    edited May 2025

    that hardware is ass why would someone want this unless it's unprofitably cheap. core count for running vms is insane and ddr3 is slow. what's the idea here?

    Thanked by 2nghialele yoursunny
  • AlyxAlyx Member, Host Rep

    @tarisu said: If you are getting IPs from OVH, they may be strict about abuse complaints. Its better for announcing your own IPs to them in my opinion.

    They just recently started doing BGP. But as for now, it's a closed beta and IPv4 only.

    Thanked by 1vpscp
  • wdmgwdmg Member, LIR

    You're not going to make any money doing that. You'd be better off doing something like web hosting on those instead... and even then, it's not fantastic.

    Thanked by 1vpscp
  • d2411d2411 Member

    I will take one - offer ? :D

    Thanked by 1vpscp
  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    What could go wrong?

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  • vpscpvpscp Member

    @Alyx said: Puh... I think you might run into some issues if you plan to start a hosting business with that hardware.

    The competition in this industry is hard and most providers, if not all, are using much more powerful hardware and offer better performance.

    Personally, I offer VMs powered by Ryzen 9 7950X3D CPUs, DDR5 RAM, and RAID10 NVMe storage, starting at $5 per month, and I'm not even considered a "cheap" by LET standards.

    How low do you want to go with your price to make this a competitive offer?

    If you’re thinking of sharing the server with a few friends, sure that could work, but selling VPS to a public audience would be challenging.

    Thanks for your reply – I appreciate your perspective.

    Just to clarify: I’m not new to hosting. I’ve been running a hosting service for nearly 10 years now. My services are targeted only to a specific user base within my own country — I have no plans to sell internationally or compete in the global low-end market.

    While I do use modern Hetzner dedicated servers, I’ve run into recurring issues with users abusing their VPS — viruses, DMCA notices, spam, etc. I often receive warnings from Hetzner, and I’ve had to remove many VPS instances because of customer mistakes. It's a common challenge when working with less tech-savvy users.

    Another thing I’ve noticed is that most customers here don’t really evaluate hardware quality or CPU generations. They tend to go for the cheapest option, regardless of performance differences. That makes it difficult to justify investing in high-end hardware or premium pricing.

    Since many of these users expect very low prices, we simply can't use expensive hardware. That’s also why I’ve recently started using OVH dedicated servers as an alternative. I migrated some of the problematic clients from Hetzner to OVH, and since then, I haven’t received any abuse-related emails from OVH — it has been much more stable in that regard.

    Again, I understand that my setup isn’t competitive by LET standards — but it’s intentionally tailored to a very different market.

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad
    edited May 2025

    You may wanna do some more digging in terms of how ovh handles abuses.

    There are several horror stories to keep in mind, on and off LET.

    Thanked by 1vpscp
  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    Just cause you haven't received any abuse emails ill now, doesn't mean it won't happen.

    You just never know what ticks off the ovh lords and one day you wake up with a big surprise

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  • vpscpvpscp Member

    @plumberg said: Just cause you haven't received any abuse emails ill now, doesn't mean it won't happen.

    You just never know what ticks off the ovh lords and one day you wake up with a big surprise

    Thanks for your reply – I appreciate the warning.

    Do you happen to recommend a provider that’s more reliable when it comes to handling abuse, particularly for lower-cost setups?

    The VPS instances I had to remove from Hetzner due to abuse were migrated to OVH Cloud’s $0.97 VPS line. My lowest hosting tier is designed to match that price point, so it made sense for me to use that platform.

    I had a customer who used to create fake news websites mimicking international news outlets. Because of that, I frequently received abuse emails from Hetzner. Eventually, I asked him to get his own VPS from OVH, and then I managed and hosted his content there. It’s been almost 3 years now without a single issue from OVH on that particular VPS.

    In fact, we’ve hosted several similar types of websites on OVH Cloud with no problems so far. That’s why I’ve come to trust OVH a bit more when it comes to abuse handling – at least in my own experience.

    That said, I now understand why so many people here are cautious about Kimsufi, and I appreciate the insights. This thread helped me get a better picture.

    From what I’ve seen, even the $0.97 OVH Cloud VPS still runs on older CPUs – around 2014-era chips – so it’s not necessarily a performance upgrade either. But for my use case and customer needs, it balances well between cost and reliability.

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    So Kimsufi/ SoYouStart/ Rise etc are all now under the OVH umbrella.

    No provider is immune. If you go with a provider which claims to ignore, you can expect a shitty service in general (not always).

    Have you checked search history for ovh on how they manage abuses/ what has been some users experience?

    That would give you some perspective on what to expect if shit hits the fan one day.

    Good luck..

    Thanked by 2vpscp webcraft
  • @vpscp said: I had a customer who used to create fake news websites mimicking international news outlets. Because of that, I frequently received abuse emails from Hetzner. Eventually, I asked him to get his own VPS from OVH, and then I managed and hosted his content there. It’s been almost 3 years now without a single issue from OVH on that particular VPS.

    So you're saying you are tolerating and even supporting such abusive and shitty websites? Good luck. At least now I know Hetzner does something right.

  • vpscpvpscp Member

    @dedipromo said: So you're saying you are tolerating and even supporting such abusive and shitty websites? Good luck. At least now I know Hetzner does something right.

    Let me be clear — I don’t tolerate or support any kind of abuse or illegal activity. I run a business, and I follow proper policies. But constantly removing customers due to issues like DMCA or malware often results in public backlash — they post complaints on local Facebook groups and forums, which damages my reputation and causes a further drop in new orders.

    Many users in my region prioritize low cost over quality or security. They use nulled scripts, ignore proper maintenance, and don’t listen when I warn them about risks. When their sites trigger abuse reports from providers like Hetzner, I act accordingly. But instead of taking responsibility, they blame me.

    On our shared servers, we run malware scans, block mail relay abuse, and remove DMCA-flagged sites. But since I work only within my country, with limited demand, I can’t afford to lose clients unnecessarily. That’s why I had to look for alternative providers where I’m not under constant pressure over every minor issue.

    This doesn’t mean I support abuse — it means I’m trying to balance business survival in a tough market.

  • ObelousObelous Member
    edited May 2025

    @vpscp

    That’s why I had to look for alternative providers where I’m not under constant pressure over every minor issue.

    So you consider disinformation/fraud sites, DMCA violations, spam, malware and other illegal activities... "minor" issues?

    It definitely sounds like you tolerate the abuse, because instead of getting rid of abusive customers you jump from provider to provider trying to escape abuse reports.

  • AlyxAlyx Member, Host Rep

    @vpscp said: I act accordingly. But instead of taking responsibility, they blame me.

    So, since you don't want to take the blame anymore, you want to accept the abusive content?
    What is your plan here?

    @vpscp said: They use nulled scripts

    This, in itself, is already a copyright violation. It doesn't really matter anymore if the script is secure or not, the sole fact that the nulled script is used in the first place can be a reason for a DMCA takedown notice.

    @vpscp said: But constantly removing customers due to issues like DMCA or malware often results in public backlash

    Maybe you address the wrong public?
    It feels a bit like your customers are a bunch of 12-year-old script kiddies.

    If your server is used to host spam, malware, or other illegal shit, you remove it. Period.
    They can be as mad as they want to be. It's not your job to babysit them. Explain to them why you needed to take action and give them the option to fix it. If they can't or don't want to, they need to go.

    The police is not stopping their job because people are unhappy when they need to go to prison either.


    To come back to the original topic of OVH.
    They have an abuse department too, and they will react on "disinformation/fraud sites, DMCA violations, spam, malware, and other illegal activities", there is no way around that.

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  • vpscpvpscp Member

    @Alyx said:

    @vpscp said: I act accordingly. But instead of taking responsibility, they blame me.

    So, since you don't want to take the blame anymore, you want to accept the abusive content?
    What is your plan here?

    @vpscp said: They use nulled scripts

    This, in itself, is already a copyright violation. It doesn't really matter anymore if the script is secure or not, the sole fact that the nulled script is used in the first place can be a reason for a DMCA takedown notice.

    @vpscp said: But constantly removing customers due to issues like DMCA or malware often results in public backlash

    Maybe you address the wrong public?
    It feels a bit like your customers are a bunch of 12-year-old script kiddies.

    If your server is used to host spam, malware, or other illegal shit, you remove it. Period.
    They can be as mad as they want to be. It's not your job to babysit them. Explain to them why you needed to take action and give them the option to fix it. If they can't or don't want to, they need to go.

    The police is not stopping their job because people are unhappy when they need to go to prison either.


    To come back to the original topic of OVH.
    They have an abuse department too, and they will react on "disinformation/fraud sites, DMCA violations, spam, malware, and other illegal activities", there is no way around that.

    Thanks for the feedback.

    Let me clarify: I do not tolerate abuse. I’m fully aware nulled scripts are a violation, and I don’t excuse that behavior. When such incidents happen, I take appropriate action and inform the user clearly — just like you said, explain and give them a chance. If they don’t comply, they’re removed. That’s how I operate.

    But the reality in my region is different. A large percentage of users don’t understand these technical or legal boundaries. They think if something “works,” it’s fine. I constantly educate them, guide them, and where needed, I act. But when I do remove them, yes — I get backlash. And unfortunately, that does hurt business. That’s not an excuse, but a reality I have to work with while still upholding basic standards.

    I’ve never intentionally moved from provider to provider to avoid abuse flags — I moved a few clients to OVH because they were getting suspended for what I believed were non-malicious beginner mistakes (like weak scripts, not active malware). Since then, I’ve had fewer problems — but I do agree with your point, OVH will act if there's a real abuse issue, and I’ll deal with that as needed too.

    My goal isn't to defend the wrong users — it’s to run a local business responsibly, in a market that’s still learning. I appreciate the pushback — it helps tighten where I draw the lines.

  • servzenservzen Member, Host Rep

    @vpscp, are you willing to sell a VPS for GRE Tunnel or GAME DDoS protected VPS?
    I will need one, if possible please DM.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @servzen said:
    are you willing to sell a VPS for GRE Tunnel or GAME DDoS protected VPS?
    I will need one, if possible please DM.

    You can buy EvoShield DDoS protection over GRE tunnel, which can outperform Kimsufi.
    https://evolution-host.com/remote-ddos-protection.php

  • servzenservzen Member, Host Rep

    @yoursunny said:

    @servzen said:
    are you willing to sell a VPS for GRE Tunnel or GAME DDoS protected VPS?
    I will need one, if possible please DM.

    You can buy EvoShield DDoS protection over GRE tunnel, which can outperform Kimsufi.
    https://evolution-host.com/remote-ddos-protection.php

    @yoursunny said:

    @servzen said:
    are you willing to sell a VPS for GRE Tunnel or GAME DDoS protected VPS?
    I will need one, if possible please DM.

    You can buy EvoShield DDoS protection over GRE tunnel, which can outperform Kimsufi.
    https://evolution-host.com/remote-ddos-protection.php

    Costing 20 EUR for TS3.. However, let me see if I can get atleast OVH Game.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @servzen said:

    @yoursunny said:

    @servzen said:
    are you willing to sell a VPS for GRE Tunnel or GAME DDoS protected VPS?
    I will need one, if possible please DM.

    You can buy EvoShield DDoS protection over GRE tunnel, which can outperform Kimsufi.
    https://evolution-host.com/remote-ddos-protection.php

    Costing 20 EUR for TS3.. However, let me see if I can get atleast OVH Game.

    They ain't cheap but we use their VPS and it's practically un-DDoSable.

  • vpscpvpscp Member

    @servzen said:
    @vpscp, are you willing to sell a VPS for GRE Tunnel or GAME DDoS protected VPS?
    I will need one, if possible please DM.

    Sorry if there was any confusion — I'm not selling VPS here on LET. I understand that would go against the forum's guidelines. I’ve made that mistake in the past under my previous account (Mild), which is now the one I’m using. That’s why I don’t post any sales content here anymore.

    I only posted in this thread to ask for advice and insight, not to promote anything. I genuinely appreciate the feedback shared.

  • servzenservzen Member, Host Rep

    @vpscp said:

    @servzen said:
    @vpscp, are you willing to sell a VPS for GRE Tunnel or GAME DDoS protected VPS?
    I will need one, if possible please DM.

    Sorry if there was any confusion — I'm not selling VPS here on LET. I understand that would go against the forum's guidelines. I’ve made that mistake in the past under my previous account (Mild), which is now the one I’m using. That’s why I don’t post any sales content here anymore.

    I only posted in this thread to ask for advice and insight, not to promote anything. I genuinely appreciate the feedback shared.

    Well, I don't think you are selling anything but asked a general question. I've asked you if you have any space available for my kind of requirement which I need from OVH. I can you pay for that.

  • bdspicebdspice Member

    you are thinking just like me, but i was thinking this almost 10 years ago. whole idea is the issue you should be aware. btw, GLWS

  • KS-LE-1 is fine. Just do not allow outbound SMTP. Honestly, I would just use both boxes without load balancer and also both disks (more storage, no RAID) to increase profit margin.

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