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Aggregation of email hosting under 2EUR/mo

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  • @Gulf said:

    @yukikamiki said:
    Oh I forgot, HostBrr is a reseller of NameCrane DA hosting, and they use exactly the same mail server as people may get at CraneMail, that is to say 162.244.95.10 and 23.147.8.11, no matter which region u choose for DA hosting

    .95.10 ---- 77 % go to spam ---- Large spammers
    .8.11 ---- 13 % go to spam ---- Large spammers

    Very noisy spammers will be your neighbours.

    Thanks, wonder this result also applies to NameCrane?

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @yukikamiki said:

    @Gulf said:

    @yukikamiki said:
    Oh I forgot, HostBrr is a reseller of NameCrane DA hosting, and they use exactly the same mail server as people may get at CraneMail, that is to say 162.244.95.10 and 23.147.8.11, no matter which region u choose for DA hosting

    .95.10 ---- 77 % go to spam ---- Large spammers
    .8.11 ---- 13 % go to spam ---- Large spammers

    Very noisy spammers will be your neighbours.

    Thanks, wonder this result also applies to NameCrane?

    These IPs don’t ever send email for one :) these are the IPs for our spamexperts boxes.

    Francisco

  • @Francisco said:

    @yukikamiki said:

    @Gulf said:

    @yukikamiki said:
    Oh I forgot, HostBrr is a reseller of NameCrane DA hosting, and they use exactly the same mail server as people may get at CraneMail, that is to say 162.244.95.10 and 23.147.8.11, no matter which region u choose for DA hosting

    .95.10 ---- 77 % go to spam ---- Large spammers
    .8.11 ---- 13 % go to spam ---- Large spammers

    Very noisy spammers will be your neighbours.

    Thanks, wonder this result also applies to NameCrane?

    These IPs don’t ever send email for one :) these are the IPs for our spamexperts boxes.

    Francisco

    Oh! My bad. Thank you Fran

  • @Gulf said:

    @satorik said:
    Also interested in the benchmark of Fastmail, thanks :)

    Fastmail - +/- good, some clients send to lists controlled by Spamhaus, but not critical, looks like a responsible provider

    .172.134 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Excellent delivery, no spammers ---- [SPAMHAUS WR]
    .172.135 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Top sender, no spammers ---- [SPAMHAUS WR]
    .172.136 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Excellent delivery, no spammers
    .172.137 ---- 3 % go to spam ---- Medium spammers ---- [Spamming list controlled by Spamhaus]
    .172.138 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Excellent delivery, no spammers
    .172.139 ---- 10 % go to spam ---- Medium spammers ---- [Spamming list controlled by Spamhaus]
    .172.140 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Excellent delivery, no spammers
    .172.141 ---- 7 % go to spam ---- Medium spammers ---- [Spamming list controlled by Spamhaus]
    .172.142 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Good delivery, no spammers ---- [SPAMHAUS]
    .172.143 ---- 3 % go to spam ---- Medium spammers ---- [Spamming list controlled by Spamhaus]
    .172.144 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Excellent delivery, no spammers
    .172.145 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Excellent delivery, no spammers
    .172.146 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Excellent delivery, no spammers
    .172.147 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Excellent delivery, no spammers
    .172.148 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Excellent delivery, no spammers
    .172.149 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Excellent delivery, no spammers
    .172.150 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Excellent delivery, no spammers
    .172.151 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Excellent delivery, no spammers
    .172.152 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Excellent delivery, no spammers
    .172.153 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Excellent delivery, no spammers
    .172.154 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Excellent delivery, no spammers
    .172.155 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Excellent delivery, no spammers
    .172.156 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Excellent delivery, no spammers
    .172.157 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Excellent delivery, no spammers
    .172.158 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Excellent delivery, no spammers
    .172.159 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Good delivery, no spammers

    I'd love some clarity here, Spamhaus does not publish their spamtrap list and I don't see any of their IPs in Spamhaus.

  • GulfGulf Member

    @alligatoraxe said:
    I'd love some clarity here, Spamhaus does not publish their spamtrap list and I don't see any of their IPs in Spamhaus.

    Spamhaus does not block immediately, so random hits are ok. As I wrote, not critical.

    Btw, this way Spamhaus site does not show results by asn. Better, search by domain.

    For example, this asn 212921 has no issues
    https://check.spamhaus.org/results/?query=AS212921

    Despite they blocked all their netblocks and require asn owner to contact them
    https://check.spamhaus.org/results?query=45.142.155.2
    https://check.spamhaus.org/results?query=2.59.152.4

  • GulfGulf Member
    edited April 2025

    There is also a kind of shadow ban in gmail.

    If you are sending a promotional email to addresses where you are not in their contacts and have never sent before.
    Then, the mail that should be delivered to inbox, will go to promo, mail that should be in promo, will go to spam.

    Over 50% of VPS/dedicated providers I tested from this forum have a shadow ban (it is ok because they do not expect you to send emails from their ips). Even those who allow 25 by request only have a shadow ban.

  • GulfGulf Member
    edited April 2025

    @yukikamiki said:
    @ypmLA77zcs said:
    +1 for NameCrane's IPs reputations

    Spam rate is very low.
    They have access to these reports. Blocked bad customers.
    Spam is unavoidable (read above that >50% of vps providers here have shadow ban), but will be harder spamming.

    Thanked by 2ypmLA77zcs NameCrane
  • @Gulf said: Over 50% of VPS/dedicated providers I tested from this forum have a shadow ban (it is ok because they do not expect you to send emails from their ips).

    Wow, this is staggering. The power of the Alphabet.

  • GulfGulf Member
    edited April 2025

    NameCrane

    .240 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Good delivery
    .241 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Excellent delivery
    .243 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Excellent delivery
    .247 ---- 8 % go to spam ---- Medium spammers
    .248 ---- 3 % go to spam ---- Good delivery
    .249 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Excellent delivery
    .250 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Very good delivery
    .251 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Excellent delivery
    .253 ---- 0.5 % go to spam ---- Excellent delivery
    .254 ---- 10 % go to spam ---- Medium spammers

    2 IPs are affected by spammers, but they did a great job and blocked all visible spammers. So I think will be 0.5 on all ips, need to recheck after a week.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited April 2025

    Of course, varies by domain, content, DNS, and recipient provider: https://api.prod.glockapps.com/s/78225fced4

    Looks like interia.pl and yandex.ru either don't like the IPs, the content, or the domain. But otherwise not bad. Not sure I care about interia.pl but might look into yandex.ru. Kinda stacked the deck against myself using a .me domain and putting all recipients in To.

    Thanked by 1yukikamiki
  • @jar said:
    Of course, varies by domain, content, DNS, and recipient provider: https://api.prod.glockapps.com/s/78225fced4

    Looks like interia.pl and yandex.ru either don't like the IPs, the content, or the domain. But otherwise not bad. Not sure I care about interia.pl but might look into yandex.ru. Kinda stacked the deck against myself using a .me domain and putting all recipients in To.

    This tool looks wonderful, thanks Jar for the report, this is so helpful

    Thanked by 1jar
  • GulfGulf Member

    @yukikamiki said:

    Spaceship

    Btw, NC is flagged in gmail :D
    For biz mail ok, for promo mails, not suitable.

  • labzelabze Member, Patron Provider

    @yukikamiki said:

    @yukikamiki said:

    @Drv said:
    @yukikamiki
    can you please do white label reseller too

    Yes sure, but I could only come up with onepoundemail for mxroute, maybe mxmojo but their website seems down for long?

    Onepoundemail.co.uk

    offers this constantly and deals from time to time:
    5GB Plan

    Perfect for personal use.
    Billed annually to save fees.
    £1.00/month
    5GB Email Storage
    Unlimited Domains
    Unlimited Email Addresses
    SMTP, IMAP & POP3 Access
    Catch-All Email Enabled
    DirectAdmin Panel
    Crossbox Webmail
    Roundcube Webmail
    Snappy Webmail
    IMAPSync Migration Tool
    300 Outbound Emails/Hour

    Oh I forgot, HostBrr is a reseller of NameCrane DA hosting, and they use exactly the same mail server as people may get at CraneMail, that is to say 162.244.95.10 and 23.147.8.11, no matter which region u choose for DA hosting

    Just a correction, only the Luxembourg location is from NameCrane. All other servers are managed by HostBrr itself and uses Mail.baby as a relay. We haven't had any negative feedback in regards to delivery.

    Thanked by 1yukikamiki
  • @labze said:

    @yukikamiki said:

    @yukikamiki said:

    @Drv said:
    @yukikamiki
    can you please do white label reseller too

    Yes sure, but I could only come up with onepoundemail for mxroute, maybe mxmojo but their website seems down for long?

    Onepoundemail.co.uk

    offers this constantly and deals from time to time:
    5GB Plan

    Perfect for personal use.
    Billed annually to save fees.
    £1.00/month
    5GB Email Storage
    Unlimited Domains
    Unlimited Email Addresses
    SMTP, IMAP & POP3 Access
    Catch-All Email Enabled
    DirectAdmin Panel
    Crossbox Webmail
    Roundcube Webmail
    Snappy Webmail
    IMAPSync Migration Tool
    300 Outbound Emails/Hour

    Oh I forgot, HostBrr is a reseller of NameCrane DA hosting, and they use exactly the same mail server as people may get at CraneMail, that is to say 162.244.95.10 and 23.147.8.11, no matter which region u choose for DA hosting

    Just a correction, only the Luxembourg location is from NameCrane. All other servers are managed by HostBrr itself and uses Mail.baby as a relay. We haven't had any negative feedback in regards to delivery.

    Ohh I am sorry, would edit that to correct. Thanks a lot

  • @labze said:

    @yukikamiki said:

    @yukikamiki said:

    @Drv said:
    @yukikamiki
    can you please do white label reseller too

    Yes sure, but I could only come up with onepoundemail for mxroute, maybe mxmojo but their website seems down for long?

    Onepoundemail.co.uk

    offers this constantly and deals from time to time:
    5GB Plan

    Perfect for personal use.
    Billed annually to save fees.
    £1.00/month
    5GB Email Storage
    Unlimited Domains
    Unlimited Email Addresses
    SMTP, IMAP & POP3 Access
    Catch-All Email Enabled
    DirectAdmin Panel
    Crossbox Webmail
    Roundcube Webmail
    Snappy Webmail
    IMAPSync Migration Tool
    300 Outbound Emails/Hour

    Oh I forgot, HostBrr is a reseller of NameCrane DA hosting, and they use exactly the same mail server as people may get at CraneMail, that is to say 162.244.95.10 and 23.147.8.11, no matter which region u choose for DA hosting

    Just a correction, only the Luxembourg location is from NameCrane. All other servers are managed by HostBrr itself and uses Mail.baby as a relay. We haven't had any negative feedback in regards to delivery.

    Ahh I forgot
    couldn't edit a comment here

  • @yukikamiki said:

    @yukikamiki said:

    @Drv said:
    @yukikamiki
    can you please do white label reseller too

    Yes sure, but I could only come up with onepoundemail for mxroute, maybe mxmojo but their website seems down for long?

    Onepoundemail.co.uk

    offers this constantly and deals from time to time:
    5GB Plan

    Perfect for personal use.
    Billed annually to save fees.
    £1.00/month
    5GB Email Storage
    Unlimited Domains
    Unlimited Email Addresses
    SMTP, IMAP & POP3 Access
    Catch-All Email Enabled
    DirectAdmin Panel
    Crossbox Webmail
    Roundcube Webmail
    Snappy Webmail
    IMAPSync Migration Tool
    300 Outbound Emails/Hour

    Oh I forgot, HostBrr is a reseller of NameCrane DA hosting, and they use exactly the same mail server as people may get at CraneMail, that is to say 162.244.95.10 and 23.147.8.11, no matter which region u choose for DA hosting

    @yukikamiki said:

    @yukikamiki said:

    @Drv said:
    @yukikamiki
    can you please do white label reseller too

    Yes sure, but I could only come up with onepoundemail for mxroute, maybe mxmojo but their website seems down for long?

    Onepoundemail.co.uk

    offers this constantly and deals from time to time:
    5GB Plan

    Perfect for personal use.
    Billed annually to save fees.
    £1.00/month
    5GB Email Storage
    Unlimited Domains
    Unlimited Email Addresses
    SMTP, IMAP & POP3 Access
    Catch-All Email Enabled
    DirectAdmin Panel
    Crossbox Webmail
    Roundcube Webmail
    Snappy Webmail
    IMAPSync Migration Tool
    300 Outbound Emails/Hour

    Oh I forgot, HostBrr is a reseller of NameCrane DA hosting, and they use exactly the same mail server as people may get at CraneMail, that is to say 162.244.95.10 and 23.147.8.11, no matter which region u choose for DA hosting

    @yukikamiki said:

    @yukikamiki said:

    @Drv said:
    @yukikamiki
    can you please do white label reseller too

    Yes sure, but I could only come up with onepoundemail for mxroute, maybe mxmojo but their website seems down for long?

    Onepoundemail.co.uk

    offers this constantly and deals from time to time:
    5GB Plan

    Perfect for personal use.
    Billed annually to save fees.
    £1.00/month
    5GB Email Storage
    Unlimited Domains
    Unlimited Email Addresses
    SMTP, IMAP & POP3 Access
    Catch-All Email Enabled
    DirectAdmin Panel
    Crossbox Webmail
    Roundcube Webmail
    Snappy Webmail
    IMAPSync Migration Tool
    300 Outbound Emails/Hour

    Oh I forgot, HostBrr is a reseller of NameCrane DA hosting, and they use exactly the same mail server as people may get at CraneMail, that is to say 162.244.95.10 and 23.147.8.11, no matter which region u choose for DA hosting

    Sorry this statement seems to be false, please refer to NameCrane and HostBrr replies

  • @Gulf said:

    @yukikamiki said:

    Spaceship

    Btw, NC is flagged in gmail :D
    For biz mail ok, for promo mails, not suitable.

    @NameCrane @Francisco

  • Waiting for MXRoute benchmark

    Thanked by 2commercial satorik
  • GulfGulf Member

    @hyperblast said:

    Btw, NC is flagged in gmail :D
    For biz mail ok, for promo mails, not suitable.

    NC = NameCheap :D
    = Spaceship
    But their services are trash.
    They suspend you for a simple spam attack.
    You may suspend any customer at namecheap, just send 10k emails with the same content.

  • DrvDrv Member

    @Gulf said:
    Btw, NC is flagged in gmail :D
    For biz mail ok, for promo mails, not suitable.

    Define business and promo mail?

  • @Gulf said:

    @hyperblast said:

    Btw, NC is flagged in gmail :D
    For biz mail ok, for promo mails, not suitable.

    NC = NameCheap :D
    = Spaceship
    But their services are trash.
    They suspend you for a simple spam attack.
    You may suspend any customer at namecheap, just send 10k emails with the same content.

    ops!
    nc != namecrane

  • RazzaRazza Member
    edited April 2025

    @Gulf said:

    @hyperblast said:

    Btw, NC is flagged in gmail :D
    For biz mail ok, for promo mails, not suitable.

    NC = NameCheap :D
    = Spaceship
    But their services are trash.
    They suspend you for a simple spam attack.
    You may suspend any customer at namecheap, just send 10k emails with the same content.

    Don't think it's just a NameCheap issue am petty sure quite a number of mail providers would suspend a users inbox if they received 1000's of emails in a short timeframe.

    Mail hosting is a shared system like ever shared system there only so much resources to go around so there going to be a limit somewhere on the amount of resources they can utilize even on things beyond the user control.

  • DrvDrv Member
    edited April 2025

    Is there any google workspace reseller more cheap than 3.5$/month/account?

  • Thanks for the overview. Would be great to get an overview of lifetime offers too!!

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited April 2025

    @COLBYLICIOUS said:
    Waiting for MXRoute benchmark

    https://api.prod.glockapps.com/s/78225fced4

    Remember that this isn’t a guarantee you’ll see the same result. Domain reputation, DNS, and content are all relevant factors as well. This is merely one snapshot of how it can be. The ones who filtered to spam here are likely treating this as IP reputation, but the ones I landed in inboxes for there are likely not judging us negatively by IP reputation. This is also all moving parts, it takes continual daily work to maintain this and no one can guarantee there won’t be a bad day or week. All I can guarantee is that I’m there doing that daily work, and that I’m never satisfied with the result. I won’t rest, I won’t move back to focus on another product, this is it for me. I’ll work on this every day until I die.

  • GulfGulf Member
    edited April 2025

    @Razza said:

    Don't think it's just a NameCheap issue

    Gmail does not care, you may receive any spam attacks, MS same, yandex same, mail ru same.
    Namecheap / Space will destroy you for receiving spam.

    Thanked by 1dedipromo
  • GulfGulf Member

    For yandex, need to send an email with something simple like Password recovery from info@
    If it still goes to spam, then need a process of whitelisting... or do it manually :D

    But overall, better to use local server from russia, but not required.

  • RazzaRazza Member
    edited April 2025

    @Gulf said:

    @Razza said:

    Don't think it's just a NameCheap issue

    Gmail does not care, you may receive any spam attacks, MS same, yandex same, mail ru same.
    Namecheap / Space will destroy you for receiving spam.

    Them provider are mega sized compared to NameCheap, when running mail services at the scales of any of them then receiving a large amount of spam mail is mostly like not a major issue.

    It's a bit of a unfair comparison using mega sized corporations to highlight NC incoming spam tolerance if compared to similar sized providers their incoming limits might be quite similar.

  • i forgot to mention there is an option to use email routing from your dns provider(like cloudflare) to redirect your email to an existing inbox and send with a transactional mail provider free tier,like resend, brevo or mailgun. u have to set a separate smtp identity. there r tutorials and https://free-for.dev provides some providers u could look into

  • @yukikamiki said:
    i forgot to mention there is an option to use email routing from your dns provider(like cloudflare) to redirect your email to an existing inbox and send with a transactional mail provider free tier,like resend, brevo or mailgun. u have to set a separate smtp identity. there r tutorials and https://free-for.dev provides some providers u could look into

    For convenience, I picked out the forwarding and sending services, and listed below
    (please note that these services don't target the same as regular email hosting so don't expect they would give u a fully functioned mailbox)

    • AhaSend - Transactional email service, free for 1000 emails per month, with unlimited domains, team members, webhooks and message routes in the free plan.
    • Brevo — 9,000 emails/month, 300 emails/day free
    • OneSignal — 10,000 emails/month,No Credit Cards are required.
    • CloudMailin - Incoming email via HTTP POST and transactional outbound - 10,000 free emails/month
    • EmailLabs.io — Send up to 9,000 Emails for free every month, up to 300 emails daily.
    • EmailOctopus - Up to 2,500 subscribers and 10,000 emails per month free
    • forwardemail.net — Free email forwarding for custom domains. Create and forward an unlimited amount of email addresses with your domain name (note: You must pay if you use .casa, .cf, .click, .email, .fit, .ga, .gdn, .gq, .lat, .loan, .london, .men, .ml, .pl, .rest, .ru, .tk, .top, .work TLDs due to spam)
    • ImprovMX – Free email forwarding.
    • EForw – Free email forwarding for one domain. Receive and send emails from your domain.
    • mailcatcher.me — Catches mail and serves it through a web interface.
    • mailchannels.com - Email API with REST API and SMTP integrations, free for upto 3,000 emails/month.
    • Mailchimp — 500 subscribers and 1,000 emails/month free.
    • Maildroppa - Up to 100 subscribers and unlimited emails as well as automations for free.
    • MailerLite.com — 1,000 subscribers/month, 12,000 emails/month free
    • MailerSend.com — Email API, SMTP, 3,000 emails/month free for transactional emails
    • Mailjet — 6,000 emails/month free (200 emails daily sending limit)
    • Parsio.io — Free email parser (Forward email, extract the data, send it to your server)
    • pepipost.com — 30k emails free for the first month, then the first 100 emails/day free.
    • Plunk - 3K emails/month for free
    • Postmark - 100 emails/month free, unlimited DMARC weekly digests.
    • Queuemail.dev — Reliable email delivery API. Free tier (10,000 emails/per month). Send asynchronously. Use several SMTP servers. Blocklists, Logging, Tracking, Webhooks, and more.
    • Resend - Transactional emails API for developers. 3,000 emails/month, 100 emails/day free, one custom domain.
    • Sender Up to 15,000 emails/month, up to 2,500 subscribers
    • SendGrid — 100 emails/day and 2,000 contacts free
    • Sendpulse — 500 subscribers/month, 15,000 emails/month free
    • Substack — Unlimited free newsletter service. Start paying when you charge for it.
    • Sweego - European transactional emails API for developers. 500 emails/day free.
    • Takeout - A constantly updated email service that makes sending emails easy. Five hundred transactional emails/month free.

    • tinyletter.com — 5,000 subscribers/month free

    • Zoho — Started as an e-mail provider but now provides a suite of services, some of which have free plans. List of services having free plans :

      • Email Free for 5 users. 5GB/user & 25 MB attachment limit, one domain.
    • Maileroo - SMTP relay and email API for developers. 5,000 emails per month, unlimited domains, free email verification, blacklist monitoring, mail tester and more.

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