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help with tor bridge and relay

s0n1cs0n1c Member
edited April 2025 in General

Hi,
I'm considering hosting a Tor bridge or relay on some of my servers (not an exit node), but I'm unsure which option is the safest and how to proceed. Could my IP be added to blacklists as a result of this? Is there a very simple setup or Docker compose to easily start one of these?

I've also heard about Tor snowflake which seems easy to get running, but are there any risks hosting that, like being added to IP blacklists or whatever?

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  • wadhahwadhah Member, Host Rep

    make sure you check with your host before running anything tor related, not a lot of hosts tolerate it

  • @wadhah said:
    make sure you check with your host before running anything tor related, not a lot of hosts tolerate it

    Hosting a Tor bridge, entry or middle relay is never going to be a problem. The problem arises when you host an exit node and with it comes the surplus abuse complaints.

    Thanked by 1wadhah
  • qbit15qbit15 Member
    edited April 2025

    @yabarg said:
    Hi,
    I'm considering hosting a Tor bridge or relay on some of my servers (not an exit node), but I'm unsure which option is the safest and how to proceed. Could my IP be added to blacklists as a result of this? Is there a very simple setup or Docker compose to easily start one of these?

    I've also heard about Tor snowflake which seems easy to get running, but are there any risks hosting that, like being added to IP blacklists or whatever?

    Refer to the relay documentation: https://community.torproject.org/relay/setup/. It's quite easy and wouldn't take more than 5 minutes. I wouldn't advise hosting anything on that server because all the Tor relay IPs are public (https://enkidu-6.github.io/tor-relay-lists/) and it can indeed be added to a blocklist by various scum of the internet like cloudflare.

  • olokeoloke Member, Host Rep

    @yabarg said:
    Hi,
    I'm considering hosting a Tor bridge or relay on some of my servers (not an exit node), but I'm unsure which option is the safest and how to proceed. Could my IP be added to blacklists as a result of this? Is there a very simple setup or Docker compose to easily start one of these?

    I've also heard about Tor snowflake which seems easy to get running, but are there any risks hosting that, like being added to IP blacklists or whatever?

    By running a relay, your IP can be added to blacklists but most sites still work without issue.
    You can try to opt out of some blacklists by yourself once you're added.
    Nowadays tracking relies heavily on cookies and device identifiers, not only on IP address.

    Docker compose isn't really recommended setup, it's best to run Tor as a daemon on your system. Have you checked the Tor docs on how to run relay? It's rather straightforward.

    If you have a spare server, consider Snowflake or Webtunnel (more advanced) bridge. There are no risks associated with that

  • @oloke said:

    @yabarg said:
    Hi,
    I'm considering hosting a Tor bridge or relay on some of my servers (not an exit node), but I'm unsure which option is the safest and how to proceed. Could my IP be added to blacklists as a result of this? Is there a very simple setup or Docker compose to easily start one of these?

    I've also heard about Tor snowflake which seems easy to get running, but are there any risks hosting that, like being added to IP blacklists or whatever?

    By running a relay, your IP can be added to blacklists but most sites still work without issue.
    You can try to opt out of some blacklists by yourself once you're added.
    Nowadays tracking relies heavily on cookies and device identifiers, not only on IP address.

    Docker compose isn't really recommended setup, it's best to run Tor as a daemon on your system. Have you checked the Tor docs on how to run relay? It's rather straightforward.

    If you have a spare server, consider Snowflake or Webtunnel (more advanced) bridge. There are no risks associated with that

    Why are you repeating the same thing I just mentioned? Are you stupid?

  • s0n1cs0n1c Member

    @oloke said:

    @yabarg said:
    Hi,
    I'm considering hosting a Tor bridge or relay on some of my servers (not an exit node), but I'm unsure which option is the safest and how to proceed. Could my IP be added to blacklists as a result of this? Is there a very simple setup or Docker compose to easily start one of these?

    I've also heard about Tor snowflake which seems easy to get running, but are there any risks hosting that, like being added to IP blacklists or whatever?

    By running a relay, your IP can be added to blacklists but most sites still work without issue.
    You can try to opt out of some blacklists by yourself once you're added.
    Nowadays tracking relies heavily on cookies and device identifiers, not only on IP address.

    Docker compose isn't really recommended setup, it's best to run Tor as a daemon on your system. Have you checked the Tor docs on how to run relay? It's rather straightforward.

    If you have a spare server, consider Snowflake or Webtunnel (more advanced) bridge. There are no risks associated with that

    What about running a bridge instead of a relay? Is my IP still put on a list then?
    And does snowflake really have no risks associated with it?

  • olokeoloke Member, Host Rep

    @yabarg said:
    What about running a bridge instead of a relay? Is my IP still put on a list then?
    And does snowflake really have no risks associated with it?

    Your IP isn't listed publicly when running a bridge. It can be discovered and put on a blacklists in countries trying to block Tor use (China, Russia) but not much else.

    @qbit15 said:
    Why are you repeating the same thing I just mentioned? Are you stupid?

    Yes indeed. I started writing before I've seen your answer. Believe me or not I've not copied it.

    Thanked by 1qbit15
  • @qbit15 said:

    @oloke said:

    @yabarg said:
    Hi,
    I'm considering hosting a Tor bridge or relay on some of my servers (not an exit node), but I'm unsure which option is the safest and how to proceed. Could my IP be added to blacklists as a result of this? Is there a very simple setup or Docker compose to easily start one of these?

    I've also heard about Tor snowflake which seems easy to get running, but are there any risks hosting that, like being added to IP blacklists or whatever?

    By running a relay, your IP can be added to blacklists but most sites still work without issue.
    You can try to opt out of some blacklists by yourself once you're added.
    Nowadays tracking relies heavily on cookies and device identifiers, not only on IP address.

    Docker compose isn't really recommended setup, it's best to run Tor as a daemon on your system. Have you checked the Tor docs on how to run relay? It's rather straightforward.

    If you have a spare server, consider Snowflake or Webtunnel (more advanced) bridge. There are no risks associated with that

    Why are you repeating the same thing I just mentioned? Are you stupid?

    Oh come on. Cut him some slack.

    This does happen legitimately (to me too), where you start writing a reply (which does take some time) and by then there's another post (sometimes addressing/correcting/superceeding/invalidating) what you just wrote.

    Look at the times of the posts and it'll at least give you a clue.

    Thanked by 1qbit15
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