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Jar saves the day, MyW to continue (WAS MyW is closing doors)
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afaik the account itself has limit, but the log file that being produced by that account isn't really count towards account disk usage. that's why it's causing a problem for the server
You can now nuke my data there in Wde1, Sg and Wla1.
Have moved everything to @NameCrane and @labze cPanel shared hosting.
.> @Fritz said:
Perhaps a cancellation request would be in order?
Many Thanks @MikePT and @Jar , it was nice to be able host with u
Please it’s important to clarify that not all users are on the lifetime plan. The narrative and tone in some of the posts here suggest that we’re being done a favour. I don’t know about others, but I’ve been on a discounted 25 euros yearly reseller plan which I’ve consistently paid for the last five years or thereabouts.
My current payment expires in August which is almost about the same time as the planned service termination so it’s not all bad. Hopefully I find another home soon so I can migrate my websites. This has been an emotional torture not knowing what surprises could come up tomorrow from the hosting company.
Namecrane offered me a free 6 months deal last year, but for some reason stopped replying to messages.
It’s all good!
It’s all good!
Sorry, was this on ticket or in an email? Tickets are always best for this stuff.
Francisco
Hey same situation...
You talking about the monthly plan, or did I completely drop the ball on getting back to you as well?
@lacicripstech that's my fault - check DMs
Yearly reseller 25 euros yearly..
There are 777 active services listed in WHMCS. Of those, 741 are one-time (lifetime), 1 is marked as free. That leaves 35 services that could be, but have not been, billed. If you can extract from that 35 the number of people likely to be active in this thread, I still think blanket statements like "they're all lifetime users" have a pretty good hit rate.
crazy seeing how deep the ponzi went, only 35 people actually paying reoccurring costs.
Let's see, $27/year in US dollars. $2.25/month, eight cents a day. RESELLER plan.
And no one has been doing you a favor for five years?
I reckon that @jar as a volunteer did you a big favor that he did not owe you, and even @MikePT did you a favor as a customer all those years.
They say you can find an interest group for literally anything on the internet. I guess this is the group for masochistic web hosts and the customers who like to abuse them.
There are better customers out there, don't be afraid to cater to them. After you take my advice and see the light, come back and thank me!
if you count how many tickets those $2/m customers open per year, its a clear loss. It barely covers server costs, let alone working hours. Not even Indian working rates.
So it was all a Ponzi scheme. When asked, @MikePT always stated that monthly subscriptions covered the costs of business, therefore making lifetime as an extra buck. This is just sad.
Thank you for the info. For the record: that 1 lifetime marked as free was mine. It was won after you opened HostBalls long ago.
To play devils advocate.. there could have been hundreds of recurring for all we know with most of them cancelling before Jar took over. The key word is active. (Not likely based on events I know)
I could be more accurate, actually. It's been so long since I routinely used WHMCS that I'm prone to misreading some things. For example, I was not counting reseller, I forget that WHMCS separates the two. That's a significant number. I also didn't actually select active, so the 777 included other statuses. So perhaps it's best if I put these all out before I delete them. Because it could be helpful information to anyone selling lifetime packages:
Reseller plans:
Of 632 active resellers, 592 are one-time billing
Of 41 cancelled resellers, 17 were one-time billing
Of 22 terminated resellers, 9 were one-time billing
Regular shared:
Of 626 active shared accounts, 609 are one-time billing
Of 44 cancelled shared accounts, 28 were one-time billing
Of 16 terminated shared accounts, 14 were one-time billing
@MikePT tried something. I have no doubt he had no intention of this falling through. This isn't to speak poorly of him. But this should be a lesson to everyone: Lifetime can be a supportive part of an otherwise healthy operation if it remains a small portion of total sales. It cannot be used to build a brand with the hope of later selling recurring packages.
@jar what about the server costs if its not confidential
It’s in the neighborhood of $1000/m but I’ll have to add that all up another time. But safe to say it’s far more than was coming in. For example in August inbound revenue before fees was 294 euros. It looks like the last time revenue exceeded bills was January 2024, likely correlated to an offer post. Pretty baller given the situation that it was kept up as long as it was after that.
I’d almost wager that whatever @MikePT does next, so long as he doesn’t do this again, could be something great. There were a lot of lessons learned here. If they’re taken as that, and learned from, that has a lot of value. You’d usually rather work with someone who has made a mistake than someone who hasn’t, because we’re all going to fuck up. I don’t take any of this as sharing things that hurt Mike, failure here was admitted in the first post.
I honestly thought I’d shared these numbers before, but it’s not unprecedented to have a gap between what I’ve done and what I think I’ve done.
Yes. He did have an offer in January 2024.
TBH I do remember him specifically stating the income was coming from his local business, not from MyW.
A lifetime service can only be offered if it represents less than 20% of the total number of customers.
I really didn’t follow any talk about MyW before this thread, and didn’t even read this whole thread. So if anything I said contradicted anything he said about it in the past it wasn’t my intention to undermine him. I want to be clear about that. People were clearly quite happy with the service, many were upset to see its end in sight.
I don’t approve of the business plan but it’s safe to say @MikePT no longer approves of the plan he executed either. I can’t see him following it again, it didn’t end well. He didn’t run away with a pile of cash. My exposure of the details relates to people’s interest in it and I’ve never been shy about sharing that kind of information. Kicking someone when they’re down isn’t something I often find pleasure in, though not quite never…
I'm actually kinda curious on this. Does anyone currently have a lifetime service (one that requires electricity and an IPv4) that lasted longer than 10 years? I think I've even had "lifetime licenses" that were ultimately the lifetime of the business they were attached to (company goes bye-bye - no more server to activate your key)
Not 10, but my gumlet.io, wave.video, shortpixel.ai, socketlabs.com, happyscribe.com, etc. all purchased around 2020 is still active. Especially for gumlet, happyscribe, and shortpixel I believe I got my money's worth
Lifetime deals with IPv4 are pretty rare. Zap-Hosting is one option though.
Lifetime googledrive, lifetime github pages.