Banned by xhosts web hosting for typing 'sudo' command once

JabJab · March 2025

I mean dude, even Paypal said they are right, why are you still argue-ing? :-D
Just don't fucking buy a shared webhosting to run your VPN, tada.

gbzret4d · March 2025

@xHosts said:

@letstayfree said:

@xHosts said:

Stop your try to please them. Do you know why they refund you?? Just because i started a debate on PayPal after they denied to refund me after terminated my service without any kind of warning.

You are a lucky one after trying sudo

This user in question was vague from their post here it was very clear the service would not be suitable for him.

If you want your case discussed here, you became blocked for attempting to run this on a shared hosting platform

lsb_release -a
cat /etc/os-release

downloading this

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yonggekkk/sing-box-yg/main/sb.sh
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yonggekkk/sing-box-yg/main/serv00.sh

Attempting to run and bind these to ports on the server

While at the same time, when we looked at your account the fake details you supplied, combine that with attempting to run these types of scripts on a shared platform.

That is a red flag.

@Chellii said:

@xHosts said:
We have been selling 20i shared hosting since 2017 and had only a handful of issues although selling a number of monthly accounts in that time which covers the costs to allow us to provide these one time fee deals from time to time.

The only time there appears to be issues would be when people attempt to be smart and test how far they are able to push a standard account before something happens.

As most people would know standard SSH access on a shared platform is for such things as importing database, debug/test cron, edit or move files around standard directories.

20i works differently to the likes of cPanel/Directadmin, the best suggestion no matter the provider, if you are unsure ask a question to get the information you need before either ordering or attempting what you intend to do, asking the question can avoid most issues.

As proven here there are always a few who attempt to take things to the extreme in cases rather than make contact or feel they have the right to dictate how a provider implements their rules and polices.

I have asked a lot of these questions directly to 20i to get some clear cut information

This is the response so far

To lay some groundwork, SSH on our shared hosting platform (which Reseller utilises) is intended for managing the files and database via common file operations, the MySQL CLI, and other applications such as WP CLI or Composer.

The reason sudo is blocked rather than ignored is because on a simple level, this is the more secure option - it allows us time to investigate any potential threats or malicious use, such as ticket XXXXXXXXXXXX mentioned earlier in which your user was banned previously. As a secondary effect, it does force a ticket for it to be unblocked, meaning that we can go over the rules pertaining to sudo being a disallowed command on the shared hosting platform.

If a user does require using such commands, Self-Managed VPS' are a better option, since they're wholly managed by the user themselves and can run these types of command without a block.

I have confirmed with a colleague that writing to /tmp is allowed, and can be done without leaving the home directory, but it is monitored for security purposes in the same vein as other commands being ran - again, such as the commands used in the case of ticket XXXXXXXXXXXX.

I've set this ticket to be reopened for tomorrow as per my colleague Marc's suggestion as well - we'll let you know ASAP once we have word back.

I have redacted ticket/case numbers for security of the clients in question.

I understand the reason 'sudo' cannot be used. but you cannot block my account due to once single world 'sudo' typed.

I apologized for the incontinence that due to my poor English. I posted "I still want to find what kind of operation are forbidden in this service". But the sentence followed by "Is there any document to show that?"

As a user, I just want to found the docs, like "you will be banned forever if you use 'sudo'"

Events that lead to your account being closed and refunded instantly

You contacted to tell us you had been blocked from SSH for using the sudo command in error

We replyed to ask, what you intended to do in SSH before unblocking to ensure your use case was going to be suitable for the service

You replied with vague replies

We asked again

Again more vague replies

We asked a third time

You posted the above post in the screenshot

This all raised red flags, that you cannot be straight with us telling is what you intend to do

You posted publicly stating you wish to keep "testing" what is forbidden

If someone uses sudo by accident or becomes blocked, the request to become unblocked will be reviewed and SSH history checked, to see if information on how it became blocked matches the logs.

IF you had been straight with us, gave us clear replies on what you intend to do, possibly there would be no issues, but combine being vague a number of times and posting on LET you wish to keep "testing" what is forbidden"

Look at that also from a business point of view, you bought a one time fee £3.50 account, while we will be happy to help customers who face issues such as script install issues, importing databases for example we are happy to support. When it comes to what will become a timepit of unblocking SSH over and over it is not viable as a business as that will be taking up valuable time for customers who made need support on a real issues that has not been self imposed. If you had contacted us to ask questions what is allowed and not, we can help you.

The mix of you being evasive and your post stating you wish to "test" what is forbidden is what lead to your account being closed and refunded.

Don't be so disgusting OK?
It’s not about writing more to sound reasonable. If you have the guts, go ahead and keep locking the device without offering a refund. Can you act like a decent person? I told you long ago that it wasn’t suitable for me, so I requested a refund, but you refused. You’re flaunting just four commands as if they were some great achievement—don’t you feel ashamed?

As a rational person, what’s wrong with trying out my new machine? Just because you’re a hosting provider and have some supporters doesn’t mean you’re always in the right. So, if it’s not a VPS, I can’t even try using sudo? Smoking is harmful to health, yet people still smoke. Drinking too much water can be fatal, yet people still drink water. Running a sudo command to test a script is some kind of unforgivable crime?

You only demanded a refund after abuse on multiple occasions, demanding the entire security policy is changed just for your needs, no provider will change their entire setup of their company for one client.

No matter how many times or ways you try to justify your actions after us spending hours working with 20i support discussing your account. You demanded the refund, this was rejected.

You attempted to dispute the payment on PayPal and that case was closed in our favour after we supplied the evidence of your abuse, ticket submissions and logs.

I hope a provider here on LET is able to reach out and provide you shared hosting that will allow you to run a script that will allow you to bypass the firewall in China

OP got a full refund from you?

letstayfree · March 2025

@itachikonoha said:

@letstayfree said:

@xHosts said:

Stop your try to please them. Do you know why they refund you?? Just because i started a debate on PayPal after they denied to refund me after terminated my service without any kind of warning.

You are a lucky one after trying sudo

This user in question was vague from their post here it was very clear the service would not be suitable for him.

If you want your case discussed here, you became blocked for attempting to run this on a shared hosting platform

lsb_release -a
cat /etc/os-release

downloading this

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yonggekkk/sing-box-yg/main/sb.sh
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yonggekkk/sing-box-yg/main/serv00.sh

Attempting to run and bind these to ports on the server

While at the same time, when we looked at your account the fake details you supplied, combine that with attempting to run these types of scripts on a shared platform.

That is a red flag.

@Chellii said:

@xHosts said:
We have been selling 20i shared hosting since 2017 and had only a handful of issues although selling a number of monthly accounts in that time which covers the costs to allow us to provide these one time fee deals from time to time.

The only time there appears to be issues would be when people attempt to be smart and test how far they are able to push a standard account before something happens.

As most people would know standard SSH access on a shared platform is for such things as importing database, debug/test cron, edit or move files around standard directories.

20i works differently to the likes of cPanel/Directadmin, the best suggestion no matter the provider, if you are unsure ask a question to get the information you need before either ordering or attempting what you intend to do, asking the question can avoid most issues.

As proven here there are always a few who attempt to take things to the extreme in cases rather than make contact or feel they have the right to dictate how a provider implements their rules and polices.

I have asked a lot of these questions directly to 20i to get some clear cut information

This is the response so far

To lay some groundwork, SSH on our shared hosting platform (which Reseller utilises) is intended for managing the files and database via common file operations, the MySQL CLI, and other applications such as WP CLI or Composer.

The reason sudo is blocked rather than ignored is because on a simple level, this is the more secure option - it allows us time to investigate any potential threats or malicious use, such as ticket XXXXXXXXXXXX mentioned earlier in which your user was banned previously. As a secondary effect, it does force a ticket for it to be unblocked, meaning that we can go over the rules pertaining to sudo being a disallowed command on the shared hosting platform.

If a user does require using such commands, Self-Managed VPS' are a better option, since they're wholly managed by the user themselves and can run these types of command without a block.

I have confirmed with a colleague that writing to /tmp is allowed, and can be done without leaving the home directory, but it is monitored for security purposes in the same vein as other commands being ran - again, such as the commands used in the case of ticket XXXXXXXXXXXX.

I've set this ticket to be reopened for tomorrow as per my colleague Marc's suggestion as well - we'll let you know ASAP once we have word back.

I have redacted ticket/case numbers for security of the clients in question.

I understand the reason 'sudo' cannot be used. but you cannot block my account due to once single world 'sudo' typed.

I apologized for the incontinence that due to my poor English. I posted "I still want to find what kind of operation are forbidden in this service". But the sentence followed by "Is there any document to show that?"

As a user, I just want to found the docs, like "you will be banned forever if you use 'sudo'"

Events that lead to your account being closed and refunded instantly

You contacted to tell us you had been blocked from SSH for using the sudo command in error

We replyed to ask, what you intended to do in SSH before unblocking to ensure your use case was going to be suitable for the service

You replied with vague replies

We asked again

Again more vague replies

We asked a third time

You posted the above post in the screenshot

This all raised red flags, that you cannot be straight with us telling is what you intend to do

You posted publicly stating you wish to keep "testing" what is forbidden

If someone uses sudo by accident or becomes blocked, the request to become unblocked will be reviewed and SSH history checked, to see if information on how it became blocked matches the logs.

IF you had been straight with us, gave us clear replies on what you intend to do, possibly there would be no issues, but combine being vague a number of times and posting on LET you wish to keep "testing" what is forbidden"

Look at that also from a business point of view, you bought a one time fee £3.50 account, while we will be happy to help customers who face issues such as script install issues, importing databases for example we are happy to support. When it comes to what will become a timepit of unblocking SSH over and over it is not viable as a business as that will be taking up valuable time for customers who made need support on a real issues that has not been self imposed. If you had contacted us to ask questions what is allowed and not, we can help you.

The mix of you being evasive and your post stating you wish to "test" what is forbidden is what lead to your account being closed and refunded.

Don't be so disgusting OK?
It’s not about writing more to sound reasonable. If you have the guts, go ahead and keep locking the device without offering a refund. Can you act like a decent person? I told you long ago that it wasn’t suitable for me, so I requested a refund, but you refused. You’re flaunting just four commands as if they were some great achievement—don’t you feel ashamed?

As a rational person, what’s wrong with trying out my new machine? Just because you’re a hosting provider and have some supporters doesn’t mean you’re always in the right. So, if it’s not a VPS, I can’t even try using sudo? Smoking is harmful to health, yet people still smoke. Drinking too much water can be fatal, yet people still drink water. Running a sudo command to test a script is some kind of unforgivable crime?

Can you show the messages?

Because there are allegations but no evidence as of yet.

Bro.all commands list by xhost are all the commands i executed on their host. No more at all. I'd like to try everything within a decent limit. What is not prohibited by law is permitted. I have no any willing to hack or hijack the system. I just think it's funny to try any possibility within a limit. xhost never told sudo would got baned. So i tried as i mentioned above serv00.com is also a webhosting provides free ssh without root. The provides 3 ports for each user and no root (no any kind baning ) with freebsd. So i previously asked them if ssh enabled or not and got the yes so i bought one and looking into their tos to find out if there is any kind of limit that not be forbidden and i found no rules i would break as i just try some scripts. If there are some ports open and i would try if a vpn script would work.

They just baked me without any notice. And he claims i abused their service. OK four commands including sudo is abuse. OK. fine. They terminated my service and refuse to refund.
That's all

xHosts · March 2025

@gbzret4d said:

@xHosts said:

@letstayfree said:

@xHosts said:

Stop your try to please them. Do you know why they refund you?? Just because i started a debate on PayPal after they denied to refund me after terminated my service without any kind of warning.

You are a lucky one after trying sudo

This user in question was vague from their post here it was very clear the service would not be suitable for him.

If you want your case discussed here, you became blocked for attempting to run this on a shared hosting platform

lsb_release -a
cat /etc/os-release

downloading this

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yonggekkk/sing-box-yg/main/sb.sh
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yonggekkk/sing-box-yg/main/serv00.sh

Attempting to run and bind these to ports on the server

While at the same time, when we looked at your account the fake details you supplied, combine that with attempting to run these types of scripts on a shared platform.

That is a red flag.

@Chellii said:

@xHosts said:
We have been selling 20i shared hosting since 2017 and had only a handful of issues although selling a number of monthly accounts in that time which covers the costs to allow us to provide these one time fee deals from time to time.

The only time there appears to be issues would be when people attempt to be smart and test how far they are able to push a standard account before something happens.

As most people would know standard SSH access on a shared platform is for such things as importing database, debug/test cron, edit or move files around standard directories.

20i works differently to the likes of cPanel/Directadmin, the best suggestion no matter the provider, if you are unsure ask a question to get the information you need before either ordering or attempting what you intend to do, asking the question can avoid most issues.

As proven here there are always a few who attempt to take things to the extreme in cases rather than make contact or feel they have the right to dictate how a provider implements their rules and polices.

I have asked a lot of these questions directly to 20i to get some clear cut information

This is the response so far

To lay some groundwork, SSH on our shared hosting platform (which Reseller utilises) is intended for managing the files and database via common file operations, the MySQL CLI, and other applications such as WP CLI or Composer.

The reason sudo is blocked rather than ignored is because on a simple level, this is the more secure option - it allows us time to investigate any potential threats or malicious use, such as ticket XXXXXXXXXXXX mentioned earlier in which your user was banned previously. As a secondary effect, it does force a ticket for it to be unblocked, meaning that we can go over the rules pertaining to sudo being a disallowed command on the shared hosting platform.

If a user does require using such commands, Self-Managed VPS' are a better option, since they're wholly managed by the user themselves and can run these types of command without a block.

I have confirmed with a colleague that writing to /tmp is allowed, and can be done without leaving the home directory, but it is monitored for security purposes in the same vein as other commands being ran - again, such as the commands used in the case of ticket XXXXXXXXXXXX.

I've set this ticket to be reopened for tomorrow as per my colleague Marc's suggestion as well - we'll let you know ASAP once we have word back.

I have redacted ticket/case numbers for security of the clients in question.

I understand the reason 'sudo' cannot be used. but you cannot block my account due to once single world 'sudo' typed.

I apologized for the incontinence that due to my poor English. I posted "I still want to find what kind of operation are forbidden in this service". But the sentence followed by "Is there any document to show that?"

As a user, I just want to found the docs, like "you will be banned forever if you use 'sudo'"

Events that lead to your account being closed and refunded instantly

You contacted to tell us you had been blocked from SSH for using the sudo command in error

We replyed to ask, what you intended to do in SSH before unblocking to ensure your use case was going to be suitable for the service

You replied with vague replies

We asked again

Again more vague replies

We asked a third time

You posted the above post in the screenshot

This all raised red flags, that you cannot be straight with us telling is what you intend to do

You posted publicly stating you wish to keep "testing" what is forbidden

If someone uses sudo by accident or becomes blocked, the request to become unblocked will be reviewed and SSH history checked, to see if information on how it became blocked matches the logs.

IF you had been straight with us, gave us clear replies on what you intend to do, possibly there would be no issues, but combine being vague a number of times and posting on LET you wish to keep "testing" what is forbidden"

Look at that also from a business point of view, you bought a one time fee £3.50 account, while we will be happy to help customers who face issues such as script install issues, importing databases for example we are happy to support. When it comes to what will become a timepit of unblocking SSH over and over it is not viable as a business as that will be taking up valuable time for customers who made need support on a real issues that has not been self imposed. If you had contacted us to ask questions what is allowed and not, we can help you.

The mix of you being evasive and your post stating you wish to "test" what is forbidden is what lead to your account being closed and refunded.

Don't be so disgusting OK?
It’s not about writing more to sound reasonable. If you have the guts, go ahead and keep locking the device without offering a refund. Can you act like a decent person? I told you long ago that it wasn’t suitable for me, so I requested a refund, but you refused. You’re flaunting just four commands as if they were some great achievement—don’t you feel ashamed?

As a rational person, what’s wrong with trying out my new machine? Just because you’re a hosting provider and have some supporters doesn’t mean you’re always in the right. So, if it’s not a VPS, I can’t even try using sudo? Smoking is harmful to health, yet people still smoke. Drinking too much water can be fatal, yet people still drink water. Running a sudo command to test a script is some kind of unforgivable crime?

You only demanded a refund after abuse on multiple occasions, demanding the entire security policy is changed just for your needs, no provider will change their entire setup of their company for one client.

No matter how many times or ways you try to justify your actions after us spending hours working with 20i support discussing your account. You demanded the refund, this was rejected.

You attempted to dispute the payment on PayPal and that case was closed in our favour after we supplied the evidence of your abuse, ticket submissions and logs.

I hope a provider here on LET is able to reach out and provide you shared hosting that will allow you to run a script that will allow you to bypass the firewall in China

OP got a full refund from you?

Yes the OP did, the other user took it to PayPal, we did as PayPal asked and provided all proof they requested and we left PayPal to make an informed decision on that case.

letstayfree · March 2025

@gbzret4d said:

@letstayfree said:

@xHosts said:

@letstayfree said:

@xHosts said:

Stop your try to please them. Do you know why they refund you?? Just because i started a debate on PayPal after they denied to refund me after terminated my service without any kind of warning.

You are a lucky one after trying sudo

This user in question was vague from their post here it was very clear the service would not be suitable for him.

If you want your case discussed here, you became blocked for attempting to run this on a shared hosting platform

lsb_release -a
cat /etc/os-release

downloading this

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yonggekkk/sing-box-yg/main/sb.sh
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yonggekkk/sing-box-yg/main/serv00.sh

Attempting to run and bind these to ports on the server

While at the same time, when we looked at your account the fake details you supplied, combine that with attempting to run these types of scripts on a shared platform.

That is a red flag.

@Chellii said:

@xHosts said:
We have been selling 20i shared hosting since 2017 and had only a handful of issues although selling a number of monthly accounts in that time which covers the costs to allow us to provide these one time fee deals from time to time.

The only time there appears to be issues would be when people attempt to be smart and test how far they are able to push a standard account before something happens.

As most people would know standard SSH access on a shared platform is for such things as importing database, debug/test cron, edit or move files around standard directories.

20i works differently to the likes of cPanel/Directadmin, the best suggestion no matter the provider, if you are unsure ask a question to get the information you need before either ordering or attempting what you intend to do, asking the question can avoid most issues.

As proven here there are always a few who attempt to take things to the extreme in cases rather than make contact or feel they have the right to dictate how a provider implements their rules and polices.

I have asked a lot of these questions directly to 20i to get some clear cut information

This is the response so far

To lay some groundwork, SSH on our shared hosting platform (which Reseller utilises) is intended for managing the files and database via common file operations, the MySQL CLI, and other applications such as WP CLI or Composer.

The reason sudo is blocked rather than ignored is because on a simple level, this is the more secure option - it allows us time to investigate any potential threats or malicious use, such as ticket XXXXXXXXXXXX mentioned earlier in which your user was banned previously. As a secondary effect, it does force a ticket for it to be unblocked, meaning that we can go over the rules pertaining to sudo being a disallowed command on the shared hosting platform.

If a user does require using such commands, Self-Managed VPS' are a better option, since they're wholly managed by the user themselves and can run these types of command without a block.

I have confirmed with a colleague that writing to /tmp is allowed, and can be done without leaving the home directory, but it is monitored for security purposes in the same vein as other commands being ran - again, such as the commands used in the case of ticket XXXXXXXXXXXX.

I've set this ticket to be reopened for tomorrow as per my colleague Marc's suggestion as well - we'll let you know ASAP once we have word back.

I have redacted ticket/case numbers for security of the clients in question.

I understand the reason 'sudo' cannot be used. but you cannot block my account due to once single world 'sudo' typed.

I apologized for the incontinence that due to my poor English. I posted "I still want to find what kind of operation are forbidden in this service". But the sentence followed by "Is there any document to show that?"

As a user, I just want to found the docs, like "you will be banned forever if you use 'sudo'"

Events that lead to your account being closed and refunded instantly

You contacted to tell us you had been blocked from SSH for using the sudo command in error

We replyed to ask, what you intended to do in SSH before unblocking to ensure your use case was going to be suitable for the service

You replied with vague replies

We asked again

Again more vague replies

We asked a third time

You posted the above post in the screenshot

This all raised red flags, that you cannot be straight with us telling is what you intend to do

You posted publicly stating you wish to keep "testing" what is forbidden

If someone uses sudo by accident or becomes blocked, the request to become unblocked will be reviewed and SSH history checked, to see if information on how it became blocked matches the logs.

IF you had been straight with us, gave us clear replies on what you intend to do, possibly there would be no issues, but combine being vague a number of times and posting on LET you wish to keep "testing" what is forbidden"

Look at that also from a business point of view, you bought a one time fee £3.50 account, while we will be happy to help customers who face issues such as script install issues, importing databases for example we are happy to support. When it comes to what will become a timepit of unblocking SSH over and over it is not viable as a business as that will be taking up valuable time for customers who made need support on a real issues that has not been self imposed. If you had contacted us to ask questions what is allowed and not, we can help you.

The mix of you being evasive and your post stating you wish to "test" what is forbidden is what lead to your account being closed and refunded.

Don't be so disgusting OK?
It’s not about writing more to sound reasonable. If you have the guts, go ahead and keep locking the device without offering a refund. Can you act like a decent person? I told you long ago that it wasn’t suitable for me, so I requested a refund, but you refused. You’re flaunting just four commands as if they were some great achievement—don’t you feel ashamed?

As a rational person, what’s wrong with trying out my new machine? Just because you’re a hosting provider and have some supporters doesn’t mean you’re always in the right. So, if it’s not a VPS, I can’t even try using sudo? Smoking is harmful to health, yet people still smoke. Drinking too much water can be fatal, yet people still drink water. Running a sudo command to test a script is some kind of unforgivable crime?

You only demanded a refund after abuse on multiple occasions, demanding the entire security policy is changed just for your needs, no provider will change their entire setup of their company for one client.

No matter how many times or ways you try to justify your actions after us spending hours working with 20i support discussing your account. You demanded the refund, this was rejected.

You attempted to dispute the payment on PayPal and that case was closed in our favour after we supplied the evidence of your abuse, ticket submissions and logs.

I hope a provider here on LET is able to reach out and provide you shared hosting that will allow you to run a script that will allow you to bypass the firewall in China

Can you just tell all the truth instead of mixing with some truth and some false sentences?

You just terminated my service without any kind of warning, now you told me you were hard working on bring my service back from 20i. Can you be a bit more honest?

Alright, you keep bringing up the fact that I used a VPN script—aren’t you just trying to smear me for abuse? You keep repeating that there were only four commands, yet you go out of your way to make sure bystanders see the keyword “VPN,” reinforcing the impression that I’m just some idiot desperately trying to bypass restrictions.

Fine, you win. Yes, it’s a fact that people in China need a VPN, but that doesn’t mean you get to use it as a weapon to slander others.

Forget it, you win. I have to admit, your customer service skills are impressive—you managed to put together such a well-structured, half-true to-do list in no time. And you even pressured that guy into apologizing to you repeatedly. You win, okay? I give up.

What do you think of Taiwan? What happened 1989 on the Tiananmen Square?

What do you think of Taiwan? What happened 1989 on the Tiananmen Square?

xHosts · March 2025

@letstayfree said:

@itachikonoha said:

@letstayfree said:

@xHosts said:

Stop your try to please them. Do you know why they refund you?? Just because i started a debate on PayPal after they denied to refund me after terminated my service without any kind of warning.

You are a lucky one after trying sudo

This user in question was vague from their post here it was very clear the service would not be suitable for him.

If you want your case discussed here, you became blocked for attempting to run this on a shared hosting platform

lsb_release -a
cat /etc/os-release

downloading this

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yonggekkk/sing-box-yg/main/sb.sh
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yonggekkk/sing-box-yg/main/serv00.sh

Attempting to run and bind these to ports on the server

While at the same time, when we looked at your account the fake details you supplied, combine that with attempting to run these types of scripts on a shared platform.

That is a red flag.

@Chellii said:

@xHosts said:
We have been selling 20i shared hosting since 2017 and had only a handful of issues although selling a number of monthly accounts in that time which covers the costs to allow us to provide these one time fee deals from time to time.

The only time there appears to be issues would be when people attempt to be smart and test how far they are able to push a standard account before something happens.

As most people would know standard SSH access on a shared platform is for such things as importing database, debug/test cron, edit or move files around standard directories.

20i works differently to the likes of cPanel/Directadmin, the best suggestion no matter the provider, if you are unsure ask a question to get the information you need before either ordering or attempting what you intend to do, asking the question can avoid most issues.

As proven here there are always a few who attempt to take things to the extreme in cases rather than make contact or feel they have the right to dictate how a provider implements their rules and polices.

I have asked a lot of these questions directly to 20i to get some clear cut information

This is the response so far

To lay some groundwork, SSH on our shared hosting platform (which Reseller utilises) is intended for managing the files and database via common file operations, the MySQL CLI, and other applications such as WP CLI or Composer.

The reason sudo is blocked rather than ignored is because on a simple level, this is the more secure option - it allows us time to investigate any potential threats or malicious use, such as ticket XXXXXXXXXXXX mentioned earlier in which your user was banned previously. As a secondary effect, it does force a ticket for it to be unblocked, meaning that we can go over the rules pertaining to sudo being a disallowed command on the shared hosting platform.

If a user does require using such commands, Self-Managed VPS' are a better option, since they're wholly managed by the user themselves and can run these types of command without a block.

I have confirmed with a colleague that writing to /tmp is allowed, and can be done without leaving the home directory, but it is monitored for security purposes in the same vein as other commands being ran - again, such as the commands used in the case of ticket XXXXXXXXXXXX.

I've set this ticket to be reopened for tomorrow as per my colleague Marc's suggestion as well - we'll let you know ASAP once we have word back.

I have redacted ticket/case numbers for security of the clients in question.

I understand the reason 'sudo' cannot be used. but you cannot block my account due to once single world 'sudo' typed.

I apologized for the incontinence that due to my poor English. I posted "I still want to find what kind of operation are forbidden in this service". But the sentence followed by "Is there any document to show that?"

As a user, I just want to found the docs, like "you will be banned forever if you use 'sudo'"

Events that lead to your account being closed and refunded instantly

You contacted to tell us you had been blocked from SSH for using the sudo command in error

We replyed to ask, what you intended to do in SSH before unblocking to ensure your use case was going to be suitable for the service

You replied with vague replies

We asked again

Again more vague replies

We asked a third time

You posted the above post in the screenshot

This all raised red flags, that you cannot be straight with us telling is what you intend to do

You posted publicly stating you wish to keep "testing" what is forbidden

If someone uses sudo by accident or becomes blocked, the request to become unblocked will be reviewed and SSH history checked, to see if information on how it became blocked matches the logs.

IF you had been straight with us, gave us clear replies on what you intend to do, possibly there would be no issues, but combine being vague a number of times and posting on LET you wish to keep "testing" what is forbidden"

Look at that also from a business point of view, you bought a one time fee £3.50 account, while we will be happy to help customers who face issues such as script install issues, importing databases for example we are happy to support. When it comes to what will become a timepit of unblocking SSH over and over it is not viable as a business as that will be taking up valuable time for customers who made need support on a real issues that has not been self imposed. If you had contacted us to ask questions what is allowed and not, we can help you.

The mix of you being evasive and your post stating you wish to "test" what is forbidden is what lead to your account being closed and refunded.

Don't be so disgusting OK?
It’s not about writing more to sound reasonable. If you have the guts, go ahead and keep locking the device without offering a refund. Can you act like a decent person? I told you long ago that it wasn’t suitable for me, so I requested a refund, but you refused. You’re flaunting just four commands as if they were some great achievement—don’t you feel ashamed?

As a rational person, what’s wrong with trying out my new machine? Just because you’re a hosting provider and have some supporters doesn’t mean you’re always in the right. So, if it’s not a VPS, I can’t even try using sudo? Smoking is harmful to health, yet people still smoke. Drinking too much water can be fatal, yet people still drink water. Running a sudo command to test a script is some kind of unforgivable crime?

Can you show the messages?

Because there are allegations but no evidence as of yet.

Bro.all commands list by xhost are all the commands i executed on their host. No more at all. I'd like to try everything within a decent limit. What is not prohibited by law is permitted. I have no any willing to hack or hijack the system. I just think it's funny to try any possibility within a limit. xhost never told sudo would got baned. So i tried as i mentioned above serv00.com is also a webhosting provides free ssh without root. The provides 3 ports for each user and no root (no any kind baning ) with freebsd. So i previously asked them if ssh enabled or not and got the yes so i bought one and looking into their tos to find out if there is any kind of limit that not be forbidden and i found no rules i would break as i just try some scripts. If there are some ports open and i would try if a vpn script would work.

They just baked me without any notice. And he claims i abused their service. OK four commands including sudo is abuse. OK. fine. They terminated my service and refuse to refund.
That's all

You connect to SSH

The first message is a polite notice asking you not to use sudo and not to leave home directory

If a polite notice asking you not to do something on a system is not enough to tell you not to, the fact you had been unblocked once and then blocked again within 30 minutes for the same thing.

What do you expect to happen, you become blocked, you create PayPal cases.

letstayfree · March 2025

@xHosts said:

@letstayfree said:

@itachikonoha said:

@letstayfree said:

@xHosts said:

Stop your try to please them. Do you know why they refund you?? Just because i started a debate on PayPal after they denied to refund me after terminated my service without any kind of warning.

You are a lucky one after trying sudo

This user in question was vague from their post here it was very clear the service would not be suitable for him.

If you want your case discussed here, you became blocked for attempting to run this on a shared hosting platform

lsb_release -a
cat /etc/os-release

downloading this

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yonggekkk/sing-box-yg/main/sb.sh
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yonggekkk/sing-box-yg/main/serv00.sh

Attempting to run and bind these to ports on the server

While at the same time, when we looked at your account the fake details you supplied, combine that with attempting to run these types of scripts on a shared platform.

That is a red flag.

@Chellii said:

@xHosts said:
We have been selling 20i shared hosting since 2017 and had only a handful of issues although selling a number of monthly accounts in that time which covers the costs to allow us to provide these one time fee deals from time to time.

The only time there appears to be issues would be when people attempt to be smart and test how far they are able to push a standard account before something happens.

As most people would know standard SSH access on a shared platform is for such things as importing database, debug/test cron, edit or move files around standard directories.

20i works differently to the likes of cPanel/Directadmin, the best suggestion no matter the provider, if you are unsure ask a question to get the information you need before either ordering or attempting what you intend to do, asking the question can avoid most issues.

As proven here there are always a few who attempt to take things to the extreme in cases rather than make contact or feel they have the right to dictate how a provider implements their rules and polices.

I have asked a lot of these questions directly to 20i to get some clear cut information

This is the response so far

To lay some groundwork, SSH on our shared hosting platform (which Reseller utilises) is intended for managing the files and database via common file operations, the MySQL CLI, and other applications such as WP CLI or Composer.

The reason sudo is blocked rather than ignored is because on a simple level, this is the more secure option - it allows us time to investigate any potential threats or malicious use, such as ticket XXXXXXXXXXXX mentioned earlier in which your user was banned previously. As a secondary effect, it does force a ticket for it to be unblocked, meaning that we can go over the rules pertaining to sudo being a disallowed command on the shared hosting platform.

If a user does require using such commands, Self-Managed VPS' are a better option, since they're wholly managed by the user themselves and can run these types of command without a block.

I have confirmed with a colleague that writing to /tmp is allowed, and can be done without leaving the home directory, but it is monitored for security purposes in the same vein as other commands being ran - again, such as the commands used in the case of ticket XXXXXXXXXXXX.

I've set this ticket to be reopened for tomorrow as per my colleague Marc's suggestion as well - we'll let you know ASAP once we have word back.

I have redacted ticket/case numbers for security of the clients in question.

I understand the reason 'sudo' cannot be used. but you cannot block my account due to once single world 'sudo' typed.

I apologized for the incontinence that due to my poor English. I posted "I still want to find what kind of operation are forbidden in this service". But the sentence followed by "Is there any document to show that?"

As a user, I just want to found the docs, like "you will be banned forever if you use 'sudo'"

Events that lead to your account being closed and refunded instantly

You contacted to tell us you had been blocked from SSH for using the sudo command in error

We replyed to ask, what you intended to do in SSH before unblocking to ensure your use case was going to be suitable for the service

You replied with vague replies

We asked again

Again more vague replies

We asked a third time

You posted the above post in the screenshot

This all raised red flags, that you cannot be straight with us telling is what you intend to do

You posted publicly stating you wish to keep "testing" what is forbidden

If someone uses sudo by accident or becomes blocked, the request to become unblocked will be reviewed and SSH history checked, to see if information on how it became blocked matches the logs.

IF you had been straight with us, gave us clear replies on what you intend to do, possibly there would be no issues, but combine being vague a number of times and posting on LET you wish to keep "testing" what is forbidden"

Look at that also from a business point of view, you bought a one time fee £3.50 account, while we will be happy to help customers who face issues such as script install issues, importing databases for example we are happy to support. When it comes to what will become a timepit of unblocking SSH over and over it is not viable as a business as that will be taking up valuable time for customers who made need support on a real issues that has not been self imposed. If you had contacted us to ask questions what is allowed and not, we can help you.

The mix of you being evasive and your post stating you wish to "test" what is forbidden is what lead to your account being closed and refunded.

Don't be so disgusting OK?
It’s not about writing more to sound reasonable. If you have the guts, go ahead and keep locking the device without offering a refund. Can you act like a decent person? I told you long ago that it wasn’t suitable for me, so I requested a refund, but you refused. You’re flaunting just four commands as if they were some great achievement—don’t you feel ashamed?

As a rational person, what’s wrong with trying out my new machine? Just because you’re a hosting provider and have some supporters doesn’t mean you’re always in the right. So, if it’s not a VPS, I can’t even try using sudo? Smoking is harmful to health, yet people still smoke. Drinking too much water can be fatal, yet people still drink water. Running a sudo command to test a script is some kind of unforgivable crime?

Can you show the messages?

Because there are allegations but no evidence as of yet.

Bro.all commands list by xhost are all the commands i executed on their host. No more at all. I'd like to try everything within a decent limit. What is not prohibited by law is permitted. I have no any willing to hack or hijack the system. I just think it's funny to try any possibility within a limit. xhost never told sudo would got baned. So i tried as i mentioned above serv00.com is also a webhosting provides free ssh without root. The provides 3 ports for each user and no root (no any kind baning ) with freebsd. So i previously asked them if ssh enabled or not and got the yes so i bought one and looking into their tos to find out if there is any kind of limit that not be forbidden and i found no rules i would break as i just try some scripts. If there are some ports open and i would try if a vpn script would work.

They just baked me without any notice. And he claims i abused their service. OK four commands including sudo is abuse. OK. fine. They terminated my service and refuse to refund.
That's all

You connect to SSH

The first message is a polite notice asking you not to use sudo and not to leave home directory

If a polite notice asking you not to do something on a system is not enough to tell you not to, the fact you had been unblocked once and then blocked again within 30 minutes for the same thing.

What do you expect to happen, you become blocked, you create PayPal cases.

From now on i would to say yes what you wrote is all right. Xhost you are the God of the hosting provider

angstrom · March 2025

@xHosts

Just to say that I'm basically on your side here (even if I wanted to smile a bit earlier in this thread)

One problem is that an attractive lifetime offer for shared hosting (such as yours) is going to attract dubious users sooner or later (and probably sooner rather than later)

I can't judge the intentions of the two users at issue here, but if sooner or later, you would encounter dubious users, I'm afraid

In a sense, if the visibility of this thread dissuades some dubious users from signing up for your lifetime offer, then this is a positive outcome both for you and for them (certainly for you, I would say)

xHosts · March 2025

If a polite notice asking you not to do something on a system is not enough to tell you not to, the fact you had been unblocked once and then blocked again within 30 minutes for the same thing.

What do you expect to happen, you become blocked, you create PayPal cases.

From now on i would to say yes what you wrote is all right. Xhost you are the God of the hosting provider

Thank for you for helping me feel better

@angstrom said:
@xHosts

Just to say that I'm basically on your side here (even if I wanted to smile a bit earlier in this thread)

One problem is that an attractive lifetime offer for shared hosting (such as yours) is going to attract dubious users sooner or later (and probably sooner rather than later)

I can't judge the intentions of the two users at issue here, but if sooner or later, you would encounter dubious users, I'm afraid

In a sense, if the visibility of this thread dissuades some dubious users from signing up for your lifetime offer, then this is a positive outcome both for you and for them (certainly for you, I would say)

Yes, I am grateful to both users bringing my site and threads this much attention, it is so much more than I could have wished for for my birthday yesterday >

hostnoob · March 2025

@xHosts said:
When it comes to what will become a timepit of unblocking SSH over and over it is not viable as a business as that will be taking up valuable time for customers who made need support on a real issues

Don't blame that on the customer. This is something you literally imposed on yourself.

letstayfree · March 2025

@xHosts said:

If a polite notice asking you not to do something on a system is not enough to tell you not to, the fact you had been unblocked once and then blocked again within 30 minutes for the same thing.

What do you expect to happen, you become blocked, you create PayPal cases.

From now on i would to say yes what you wrote is all right. Xhost you are the God of the hosting provider

Thank for you for helping me feel better

@angstrom said:
@xHosts

Just to say that I'm basically on your side here (even if I wanted to smile a bit earlier in this thread)

One problem is that an attractive lifetime offer for shared hosting (such as yours) is going to attract dubious users sooner or later (and probably sooner rather than later)

I can't judge the intentions of the two users at issue here, but if sooner or later, you would encounter dubious users, I'm afraid

In a sense, if the visibility of this thread dissuades some dubious users from signing up for your lifetime offer, then this is a positive outcome both for you and for them (certainly for you, I would say)

Yes, I am grateful to both users bringing my site and threads this much attention, it is so much more than I could have wished for for my birthday yesterday >

Yes so you win big matter you are right or not. The admins love you for business. You should Thanks me back for so much attention

xHosts · March 2025

@hostnoob said:

@xHosts said:
When it comes to what will become a timepit of unblocking SSH over and over it is not viable as a business as that will be taking up valuable time for customers who made need support on a real issues

Don't blame that on the customer. This is something you literally imposed on yourself.

As started so many times now, if a person makes a mistake there is no issue, when a person is being purposely evasive in their replies while then publicly admitting they will keep testing to find out what is forbidden, simple and best option was to fully refund and close the account allowing them to move on, thankfully this thread has been created and brought me a lot more orders, brand attention and a clear insight that things are not always as first claimed.

xHosts · March 2025

Yes so you win big matter you are right or not. The admins love you for business. You should Thanks me back for so much attention

I do thank you and @Chellii and I doubt my business has anything to do with it, early in the thread some of the mods held a sceptical view but after things have been explained in detail that bring clarity to the situation they are able to see the big picture on how things have happened in each case.

hyperblast · March 2025

@xHosts said: Found you had tried to download and run this

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yonggekkk/sing-box-yg/main/sb.sh

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yonggekkk/sing-box-yg/main/serv00.sh

The docs advise Serv00 or VPS

Has anyone investigated what the two scripts do?

adly · March 2025

@hyperblast said:

@xHosts said: Found you had tried to download and run this

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yonggekkk/sing-box-yg/main/sb.sh

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yonggekkk/sing-box-yg/main/serv00.sh

The docs advise Serv00 or VPS

Has anyone investigated what the two scripts do?

From a brief look, some type of proxy - perhaps to escape GFW?

xHosts · March 2025

This one

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yonggekkk/sing-box-yg/main/serv00.sh

Includes

echo "Please run as root"

Has No Signature or Hash Verification:
Attempts to bind to a few ports to VPN/Proxy services

@adly said:

@hyperblast said:

@xHosts said: Found you had tried to download and run this

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yonggekkk/sing-box-yg/main/sb.sh

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yonggekkk/sing-box-yg/main/serv00.sh

The docs advise Serv00 or VPS

Has anyone investigated what the two scripts do?

From a brief look, some type of proxy - perhaps to escape GFW?

Yes, that is basically it

mqkssqz · March 2025

@hyperblast said:

@xHosts said: Found you had tried to download and run this

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yonggekkk/sing-box-yg/main/sb.sh

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yonggekkk/sing-box-yg/main/serv00.sh

The docs advise Serv00 or VPS

Has anyone investigated what the two scripts do?

I think I have some say on this: Yes, the purpose of this script is to install Singbox in order to use various protocols to bypass certain network blockades, including Reality, S5, Shadowsocks, and other similar protocols.

Vinegar · March 2025

Wait ? Is this a VPS or shared hosting ?

network · March 2025

@Vinegar said:
Wait ? Is this a VPS or shared hosting ?

$3.5 lifetime shared hosting.

hyperblast · March 2025

i have reconsidered my opinion, xhosts is in the right according to the latest findings and considerations, and the “sudo” tester is more likely to be the intermediate person here.

Kyz · March 2025

this has been a very interesting thread to read. i also bought the 3.5 euro lifetime plan from xHosts not long ago this month.
it's kinda off-topic, but still, i do have some question for you @xHosts regarding email, i don't think it deserve its own thread here on LET, and i'm writing here (instead of writing a ticket) just in case it could be useful for someone reading this.

how reliable is the email service bundled with the hosting plan, in terms of deliverability and/or reputation?
how safe is our emails in terms of privacy? can i (the user) trust you as if you with my emails as if you are a mail service provider?

i'm asking this because i currently still have a mail subscription on a mail service so in the mean time, i redirected mail service to that one instead. also, this is a "lifetime" service we are talking about, that (probably) includes the email bundled with the hosting plan as well. in a sense, this is kinda "too good to be true" which is why i'm asking this

TimboJones · March 2025

@Chellii said:

@Mumbly said:

@wadhah said: You were told not to do it. You did it.
This is called Fuck Around And Find Out.

Well, that's in our nature. You can't blame him, he's merely mortal. Saying "don't use sudo" is pretty much the same as saying "don't eat that apple" or "don't steal fire from gods". It's almost like an invitation to do it.
I'd do it too! Who wouldn't?

We know plenty of such occurrences, like opening Pandora's box, Icarus flying too close to the sun, or even the Monkey King stealing the peaches of immortality despite the warning.

Just don't say "don't use sudo" if you actually mean it!

Yes. At that time, I just curious, what will happened......

Curiosity != accidentally. :facepalm:

yoursunny · March 2025

@hostnoob said:

@xHosts said:
When it comes to what will become a timepit of unblocking SSH over and over it is not viable as a business as that will be taking up valuable time for customers who made need support on a real issues

Don't blame that on the customer. This is something you literally imposed on yourself.

Maybe @xHosts could lockdown the SSH to only permit SFTP and disallow terminal sessions altogether.
This way rclone still works for secure file transfer, but nobody can try any commands.

Xrmaddness · March 2025

@yoursunny said:

@hostnoob said:

@xHosts said:
When it comes to what will become a timepit of unblocking SSH over and over it is not viable as a business as that will be taking up valuable time for customers who made need support on a real issues

Don't blame that on the customer. This is something you literally imposed on yourself.

Maybe @xHosts could lockdown the SSH to only permit SFTP and disallow terminal sessions altogether.
This way rclone still works for secure file transfer, but nobody can try any commands.

I like the sound of that, but it doesn't sound like they have much say over how it works since they're just reselling 20i

Petey_Long · March 2025

Imagine telling people "don't use sudo" and "don't stray from your home directory" LOL

How about just go with a proper host who has their shared hosting properly locked down? Guess what happens when I type "sudo " in a regular shared environment? What about listing home directories?

thedude@shitbox:~$ sudo apt-get update
Command 'sudo' not found, but can be installed with:
apt install sudo       # version 1.9.9-1ubuntu2.4, or
apt install sudo-ldap  # version 1.9.9-1ubuntu2.4
Ask your administrator to install one of them.
thedude@shitbox:~$ apt-get install sudo
E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend - open (13: Permission denied)
E: Unable to acquire the dpkg frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), are you root?
thedude@shitbox:~$ cd /home
thedude@shitbox:/home$ ls
ls: cannot open directory '.': Permission denied

Banned for typing in "sudo" is ridiculous. Telling people to "stay in their home directories" is even more ridiculous.

I guarantee, 100%, that everyone has had an instance where they had multiple terminal tabs open and accidentally executed a command they intended for one server, but shortly after executing, realized it was the wrong server. Accidents happen...but if they happen with xHosts, they send your ass packin'

Hit up someone like @MikeA, @speedypage or @labze for proper shared hosting - they don't have any of these weird ass quirks.

TimboJones · March 2025

@hostnoob said:

@xHosts said:
When it comes to what will become a timepit of unblocking SSH over and over it is not viable as a business as that will be taking up valuable time for customers who made need support on a real issues

Don't blame that on the customer. This is something you literally imposed on yourself.

He successfully detected and kicked off an annoying time waster. The fucking OPs intention was to break the server. It's not his server, he had no permission. He should be banned.

nghialele · March 2025

Speaking about China, nothing to speak.

xHosts · March 2025

@Kyz said:
this has been a very interesting thread to read. i also bought the 3.5 euro lifetime plan from xHosts not long ago this month.
it's kinda off-topic, but still, i do have some question for you @xHosts regarding email, i don't think it deserve its own thread here on LET, and i'm writing here (instead of writing a ticket) just in case it could be useful for someone reading this.

how reliable is the email service bundled with the hosting plan, in terms of deliverability and/or reputation?

how safe is our emails in terms of privacy? can i (the user) trust you as if you with my emails as if you are a mail service provider?

i'm asking this because i currently still have a mail subscription on a mail service so in the mean time, i redirected mail service to that one instead. also, this is a "lifetime" service we are talking about, that (probably) includes the email bundled with the hosting plan as well. in a sense, this is kinda "too good to be true" which is why i'm asking this

20i keeps their ranges clean, I have never had any issues reported regarding deliverability issues since 20i operate a zero tolerance of spam. We never access a customers account unless they make contact to for example tell us I need help with importing this database.

We would never read a customers emails.

@yoursunny said:

@hostnoob said:

@xHosts said:
When it comes to what will become a timepit of unblocking SSH over and over it is not viable as a business as that will be taking up valuable time for customers who made need support on a real issues

Don't blame that on the customer. This is something you literally imposed on yourself.

Maybe @xHosts could lockdown the SSH to only permit SFTP and disallow terminal sessions altogether.
This way rclone still works for secure file transfer, but nobody can try any commands.

@Xrmaddness said:

@yoursunny said:

@hostnoob said:

@xHosts said:
When it comes to what will become a timepit of unblocking SSH over and over it is not viable as a business as that will be taking up valuable time for customers who made need support on a real issues

Don't blame that on the customer. This is something you literally imposed on yourself.

Maybe @xHosts could lockdown the SSH to only permit SFTP and disallow terminal sessions altogether.
This way rclone still works for secure file transfer, but nobody can try any commands.

I like the sound of that, but it doesn't sound like they have much say over how it works since they're just reselling 20i

Maybe if you read all the replies, including the statements I had from 20i directly you would see it is locked down and that is merely a polite notice of a reminder.

Petey you would have also read that if an account is blocked and from SSH logs it is easy to see someones intent if it is an error because of multiple tabs or not, I have said so many times on the thread if its a clear error, there is no issue the account is unblocked and everyone is happy.

The issue when someone is intent on using commands, being vague and evasive when a simple question that is when red flags are raised, combine that with false account details will add even more red flags.

If someone can’t be straight with their intent who can second guess their real motive and is that work the risk to everyone else using the service ? I don’t believe risking everyone to keep one evasive person happy.

Could that person know a unreported exploit? What are they hoping to gain by in their own words from the other thread of testing what is or is not forbidden ?

Petey_Long · March 2025

@xHosts said: Petey you would have also read that if an account is blocked and from SSH logs it is easy to see someones intent if it is an error because of multiple tabs or not, I have said so many times on the thread if its a clear error, there is no issue the account is unblocked and everyone is happy.

You're missing my entire point. I just showed you, on a competing provider, what happens when you type in your "forbidden phrases" and guess what? My account is still chugging along and my provider doesn't care. Why? Because the provider has everything set up properly and I'm unable to do anything outside of my home directory - as intended.

Your setup sounds janky as fuck all around but hey, if people are willing to throw down $5 for a lifetime deal after scrolling past the thread where a the guy failed with $15 lifetime deals, by all means, keep it up! Didn't think people would be so stupid but I gotta give credit where credit is due.

itachikonoha · March 2025

@Petey_Long said:

@xHosts said: Petey you would have also read that if an account is blocked and from SSH logs it is easy to see someones intent if it is an error because of multiple tabs or not, I have said so many times on the thread if its a clear error, there is no issue the account is unblocked and everyone is happy.

You're missing my entire point. I just showed you, on a competing provider, what happens when you type in your "forbidden phrases" and guess what? My account is still chugging along and my provider doesn't care. Why? Because the provider has everything set up properly and I'm unable to do anything outside of my home directory - as intended.

Your setup sounds janky as fuck all around but hey, if people are willing to throw down $5 for a lifetime deal after scrolling past the thread where a the guy failed with $15 lifetime deals, by all means, keep it up! Didn't think people would be so stupid but I gotta give credit where credit is due.

To be fair, it's a limitation of 20i platform that the provider is using. So xhost doesn't really have much control over it.

The blame goes to 20i for making an awful design pattern where you have to lock out people.

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