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(help) Awful performance on Windows 2022 via Proxmox

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  • DeadlyChemistDeadlyChemist Member

    @TimboJones said:
    To confirm, you're running a Hostbrr VPS, not a dedicated server, right?

    correct

  • DeadlyChemistDeadlyChemist Member

    @host_c said:
    and take off use tablet for pointer, tr to take off also hot plug for like disk, lan and usb.

    done

    @host_c said: I have nothing,

    I can just best guess it has something to do with storage, and not CPU.

    Can you benchmark the LVM in that proxmox?

    i think you are onto something

    i have asked chatgpt to run a benchmark, i did it with the vm on and off, i hope it's correct

    root@hbrr-proxmox:~# vgs
  VG  #PV #LV #SN Attr   VSize    VFree 
  pve   1   4   0 wz--n- <299.00g 16.00g

root@hbrr-proxmox:~# lvs
  LV               VG  Attr       LSize    Pool Origin Data%  Meta%  Move Log Cpy%Sync Convert
  data             pve twi-aotz-- <235.20g             95.53  3.10                            
  root             pve -wi-ao----   35.00g                                                    
  swap             pve -wi-ao----    8.00g                                                    
  vm-100000-disk-0 pve Vwi-aotz--  230.00g data        97.69                                  
root@hbrr-proxmox:~# lvcreate -V5G -T pve/data -n test-benchmark
  Logical volume "test-benchmark" created.

root@hbrr-proxmox:~# mkfs.ext4 /dev/pve/test-benchmark
mke2fs 1.47.0 (5-Feb-2023)
Discarding device blocks: done                            
Creating filesystem with 1310720 4k blocks and 327680 inodes
Filesystem UUID: 36837a78-3df2-49ef-b23d-d90505dc2870
Superblock backups stored on blocks: 
        32768, 98304, 163840, 229376, 294912, 819200, 884736

Allocating group tables: done                            
Writing inode tables: done                            
Creating journal (16384 blocks): done
Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done 

root@hbrr-proxmox:~# mkdir /mnt/lvmtest

root@hbrr-proxmox:~# mount /dev/pve/test-benchmark /mnt/lvmtest

# !!!!!!!!!!! VM ON !!!!!!!!!!!

root@hbrr-proxmox:~# fio --name=raw_lvm_test --filename=/dev/pve/test-benchmark --size=1G --bs=4k --rw=randrw --rwmixread=70 --ioengine=libaio --direct=1 --numjobs=4 --time_based --runtime=60
raw_lvm_test: (g=0): rw=randrw, bs=(R) 4096B-4096B, (W) 4096B-4096B, (T) 4096B-4096B, ioengine=libaio, iodepth=1
...
fio-3.33
Starting 4 processes
raw_lvm_test: (groupid=0, jobs=1): err= 0: pid=518089: Tue Mar 11 08:26:56 2025
  read: IOPS=2686, BW=10.5MiB/s (11.0MB/s)(630MiB/60001msec)
    slat (usec): min=3, max=12645, avg=18.97, stdev=55.54
    clat (nsec): min=672, max=32411k, avg=254347.01, stdev=761944.35
     lat (usec): min=9, max=32431, avg=273.32, stdev=765.02
    clat percentiles (usec):
     |  1.00th=[   16],  5.00th=[   49], 10.00th=[  110], 20.00th=[  120],
     | 30.00th=[  126], 40.00th=[  133], 50.00th=[  139], 60.00th=[  147],
     | 70.00th=[  157], 80.00th=[  178], 90.00th=[  241], 95.00th=[  449],
     | 99.00th=[ 3490], 99.50th=[ 5276], 99.90th=[10159], 99.95th=[13304],
     | 99.99th=[20579]
   bw (  KiB/s): min= 5976, max=16672, per=25.04%, avg=10771.64, stdev=1914.82, samples=119
   iops        : min= 1494, max= 4168, avg=2692.92, stdev=478.69, samples=119
  write: IOPS=1149, BW=4599KiB/s (4710kB/s)(270MiB/60001msec); 0 zone resets
    slat (usec): min=4, max=3544, avg=19.35, stdev=34.00
    clat (nsec): min=1293, max=28686k, avg=205874.18, stdev=690014.83
     lat (usec): min=50, max=28707, avg=225.22, stdev=692.38
    clat percentiles (usec):
     |  1.00th=[   53],  5.00th=[   61], 10.00th=[   66], 20.00th=[   73],
     | 30.00th=[   78], 40.00th=[   84], 50.00th=[   90], 60.00th=[   97],
     | 70.00th=[  111], 80.00th=[  139], 90.00th=[  269], 95.00th=[  453],
     | 99.00th=[ 2966], 99.50th=[ 4621], 99.90th=[ 9634], 99.95th=[12649],
     | 99.99th=[20579]
   bw (  KiB/s): min= 2312, max= 7088, per=24.93%, avg=4610.99, stdev=854.58, samples=119
   iops        : min=  578, max= 1772, avg=1152.73, stdev=213.65, samples=119
  lat (nsec)   : 750=0.01%, 1000=0.02%
  lat (usec)   : 2=0.06%, 4=0.01%, 10=0.02%, 20=1.42%, 50=2.12%
  lat (usec)   : 100=19.56%, 250=67.04%, 500=5.09%, 750=1.02%, 1000=0.57%
  lat (msec)   : 2=1.31%, 4=0.97%, 10=0.67%, 20=0.09%, 50=0.01%
  cpu          : usr=2.00%, sys=11.24%, ctx=230874, majf=0, minf=15
  IO depths    : 1=100.0%, 2=0.0%, 4=0.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     submit    : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     complete  : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     issued rwts: total=161164,68993,0,0 short=0,0,0,0 dropped=0,0,0,0
     latency   : target=0, window=0, percentile=100.00%, depth=1
raw_lvm_test: (groupid=0, jobs=1): err= 0: pid=518090: Tue Mar 11 08:26:56 2025
  read: IOPS=2693, BW=10.5MiB/s (11.0MB/s)(631MiB/60001msec)
    slat (usec): min=4, max=7048, avg=18.87, stdev=44.20
    clat (nsec): min=671, max=30935k, avg=251834.88, stdev=750019.91
     lat (usec): min=8, max=30951, avg=270.71, stdev=752.33
    clat percentiles (usec):
     |  1.00th=[   16],  5.00th=[   48], 10.00th=[  110], 20.00th=[  120],
     | 30.00th=[  126], 40.00th=[  133], 50.00th=[  139], 60.00th=[  147],
     | 70.00th=[  157], 80.00th=[  178], 90.00th=[  239], 95.00th=[  433],
     | 99.00th=[ 3425], 99.50th=[ 5211], 99.90th=[10028], 99.95th=[13304],
     | 99.99th=[20055]
   bw (  KiB/s): min= 6080, max=16792, per=25.12%, avg=10806.25, stdev=1886.34, samples=119
   iops        : min= 1520, max= 4198, avg=2701.55, stdev=471.59, samples=119
  write: IOPS=1158, BW=4634KiB/s (4746kB/s)(272MiB/60001msec); 0 zone resets
    slat (usec): min=3, max=4813, avg=19.28, stdev=34.05
    clat (nsec): min=1312, max=31921k, avg=208241.08, stdev=703127.19
     lat (usec): min=49, max=31934, avg=227.52, stdev=704.63
    clat percentiles (usec):
     |  1.00th=[   54],  5.00th=[   61], 10.00th=[   66], 20.00th=[   73],
     | 30.00th=[   78], 40.00th=[   83], 50.00th=[   89], 60.00th=[   97],
     | 70.00th=[  110], 80.00th=[  139], 90.00th=[  273], 95.00th=[  453],
     | 99.00th=[ 3064], 99.50th=[ 4817], 99.90th=[ 9503], 99.95th=[12387],
     | 99.99th=[19268]
   bw (  KiB/s): min= 2320, max= 7048, per=25.13%, avg=4647.43, stdev=838.60, samples=119
   iops        : min=  580, max= 1762, avg=1161.85, stdev=209.65, samples=119
  lat (nsec)   : 750=0.01%, 1000=0.03%
  lat (usec)   : 2=0.08%, 4=0.01%, 10=0.03%, 20=1.43%, 50=2.07%
  lat (usec)   : 100=19.75%, 250=66.95%, 500=5.05%, 750=1.01%, 1000=0.55%
  lat (msec)   : 2=1.32%, 4=0.94%, 10=0.67%, 20=0.09%, 50=0.01%
  cpu          : usr=1.94%, sys=11.36%, ctx=231978, majf=0, minf=17
  IO depths    : 1=100.0%, 2=0.0%, 4=0.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     submit    : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     complete  : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     issued rwts: total=161641,69518,0,0 short=0,0,0,0 dropped=0,0,0,0
     latency   : target=0, window=0, percentile=100.00%, depth=1
raw_lvm_test: (groupid=0, jobs=1): err= 0: pid=518091: Tue Mar 11 08:26:56 2025
  read: IOPS=2678, BW=10.5MiB/s (11.0MB/s)(628MiB/60001msec)
    slat (usec): min=4, max=7358, avg=19.01, stdev=51.88
    clat (nsec): min=661, max=34126k, avg=254144.58, stdev=770943.33
     lat (usec): min=9, max=34144, avg=273.16, stdev=773.90
    clat percentiles (usec):
     |  1.00th=[   16],  5.00th=[   50], 10.00th=[  110], 20.00th=[  120],
     | 30.00th=[  126], 40.00th=[  133], 50.00th=[  139], 60.00th=[  147],
     | 70.00th=[  157], 80.00th=[  178], 90.00th=[  239], 95.00th=[  437],
     | 99.00th=[ 3490], 99.50th=[ 5276], 99.90th=[10552], 99.95th=[13304],
     | 99.99th=[20317]
   bw (  KiB/s): min= 5784, max=16112, per=24.98%, avg=10743.88, stdev=1930.39, samples=119
   iops        : min= 1446, max= 4028, avg=2685.96, stdev=482.61, samples=119
  write: IOPS=1152, BW=4609KiB/s (4719kB/s)(270MiB/60001msec); 0 zone resets
    slat (usec): min=4, max=12751, avg=19.56, stdev=63.60
    clat (nsec): min=1282, max=27082k, avg=207318.38, stdev=688389.14
     lat (usec): min=52, max=27104, avg=226.88, stdev=692.12
    clat percentiles (usec):
     |  1.00th=[   53],  5.00th=[   61], 10.00th=[   67], 20.00th=[   73],
     | 30.00th=[   78], 40.00th=[   84], 50.00th=[   90], 60.00th=[   97],
     | 70.00th=[  111], 80.00th=[  139], 90.00th=[  273], 95.00th=[  461],
     | 99.00th=[ 3064], 99.50th=[ 4752], 99.90th=[ 9241], 99.95th=[11863],
     | 99.99th=[20317]
   bw (  KiB/s): min= 2728, max= 7448, per=24.98%, avg=4620.01, stdev=849.00, samples=119
   iops        : min=  682, max= 1862, avg=1154.98, stdev=212.26, samples=119
  lat (nsec)   : 750=0.01%, 1000=0.03%
  lat (usec)   : 2=0.08%, 4=0.01%, 10=0.05%, 20=1.35%, 50=2.10%
  lat (usec)   : 100=19.63%, 250=67.04%, 500=5.13%, 750=1.02%, 1000=0.56%
  lat (msec)   : 2=1.28%, 4=0.95%, 10=0.67%, 20=0.09%, 50=0.01%
  cpu          : usr=2.05%, sys=11.10%, ctx=230784, majf=0, minf=18
  IO depths    : 1=100.0%, 2=0.0%, 4=0.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     submit    : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     complete  : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     issued rwts: total=160717,69132,0,0 short=0,0,0,0 dropped=0,0,0,0
     latency   : target=0, window=0, percentile=100.00%, depth=1
raw_lvm_test: (groupid=0, jobs=1): err= 0: pid=518092: Tue Mar 11 08:26:56 2025
  read: IOPS=2694, BW=10.5MiB/s (11.0MB/s)(632MiB/60002msec)
    slat (usec): min=3, max=11004, avg=18.75, stdev=46.06
    clat (nsec): min=662, max=30881k, avg=251830.37, stdev=743710.20
     lat (usec): min=9, max=30897, avg=270.58, stdev=745.80
    clat percentiles (usec):
     |  1.00th=[   17],  5.00th=[   53], 10.00th=[  110], 20.00th=[  120],
     | 30.00th=[  126], 40.00th=[  133], 50.00th=[  139], 60.00th=[  147],
     | 70.00th=[  157], 80.00th=[  178], 90.00th=[  237], 95.00th=[  433],
     | 99.00th=[ 3458], 99.50th=[ 5211], 99.90th=[10028], 99.95th=[12780],
     | 99.99th=[19530]
   bw (  KiB/s): min= 5776, max=16336, per=25.13%, avg=10809.08, stdev=1934.97, samples=119
   iops        : min= 1444, max= 4084, avg=2702.27, stdev=483.74, samples=119
  write: IOPS=1162, BW=4651KiB/s (4762kB/s)(273MiB/60002msec); 0 zone resets
    slat (usec): min=4, max=6061, avg=19.26, stdev=44.50
    clat (nsec): min=1323, max=26394k, avg=207686.47, stdev=731816.64
     lat (usec): min=47, max=26433, avg=226.95, stdev=733.64
    clat percentiles (usec):
     |  1.00th=[   53],  5.00th=[   61], 10.00th=[   65], 20.00th=[   72],
     | 30.00th=[   78], 40.00th=[   83], 50.00th=[   89], 60.00th=[   97],
     | 70.00th=[  110], 80.00th=[  137], 90.00th=[  269], 95.00th=[  457],
     | 99.00th=[ 3032], 99.50th=[ 4752], 99.90th=[10159], 99.95th=[13698],
     | 99.99th=[20055]
   bw (  KiB/s): min= 2464, max= 7072, per=25.22%, avg=4664.17, stdev=871.92, samples=119
   iops        : min=  616, max= 1768, avg=1166.03, stdev=217.98, samples=119
  lat (nsec)   : 750=0.01%, 1000=0.02%
  lat (usec)   : 2=0.06%, 4=0.01%, 10=0.03%, 20=1.34%, 50=2.15%
  lat (usec)   : 100=19.87%, 250=66.93%, 500=5.04%, 750=1.00%, 1000=0.57%
  lat (msec)   : 2=1.29%, 4=0.94%, 10=0.66%, 20=0.09%, 50=0.01%
  cpu          : usr=2.06%, sys=11.24%, ctx=232242, majf=0, minf=14
  IO depths    : 1=100.0%, 2=0.0%, 4=0.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     submit    : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     complete  : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     issued rwts: total=161693,69764,0,0 short=0,0,0,0 dropped=0,0,0,0
     latency   : target=0, window=0, percentile=100.00%, depth=1

Run status group 0 (all jobs):
   READ: bw=42.0MiB/s (44.0MB/s), 10.5MiB/s-10.5MiB/s (11.0MB/s-11.0MB/s), io=2520MiB (2643MB), run=60001-60002msec
  WRITE: bw=18.1MiB/s (18.9MB/s), 4599KiB/s-4651KiB/s (4710kB/s-4762kB/s), io=1084MiB (1136MB), run=60001-60002msec
root@hbrr-proxmox:~# 


# !!!!!!!!!!! VM OFF !!!!!!!!!!!

root@hbrr-proxmox:~# fio --name=raw_lvm_test --filename=/dev/pve/test-benchmark --size=1G --bs=4k --rw=randrw --rwmixread=70 --ioengine=libaio --direct=1 --numjobs=4 --time_based --runtime=60
raw_lvm_test: (g=0): rw=randrw, bs=(R) 4096B-4096B, (W) 4096B-4096B, (T) 4096B-4096B, ioengine=libaio, iodepth=1
...
fio-3.33
Starting 4 processes
raw_lvm_test: (groupid=0, jobs=1): err= 0: pid=519615: Tue Mar 11 08:33:33 2025
  read: IOPS=3140, BW=12.3MiB/s (12.9MB/s)(736MiB/60001msec)
    slat (usec): min=4, max=6518, avg=18.12, stdev=28.87
    clat (nsec): min=1373, max=32536k, avg=225040.46, stdev=606557.69
     lat (usec): min=66, max=32554, avg=243.16, stdev=608.23
    clat percentiles (usec):
     |  1.00th=[   99],  5.00th=[  108], 10.00th=[  113], 20.00th=[  119],
     | 30.00th=[  124], 40.00th=[  129], 50.00th=[  135], 60.00th=[  141],
     | 70.00th=[  151], 80.00th=[  165], 90.00th=[  217], 95.00th=[  379],
     | 99.00th=[ 2606], 99.50th=[ 4178], 99.90th=[ 8455], 99.95th=[11338],
     | 99.99th=[16450]
   bw (  KiB/s): min= 7056, max=16472, per=25.10%, avg=12572.87, stdev=1921.41, samples=119
   iops        : min= 1764, max= 4118, avg=3143.19, stdev=480.36, samples=119
  write: IOPS=1348, BW=5393KiB/s (5523kB/s)(316MiB/60001msec); 0 zone resets
    slat (usec): min=5, max=5352, avg=18.72, stdev=35.70
    clat (nsec): min=1262, max=27938k, avg=150697.59, stdev=500992.09
     lat (usec): min=50, max=27956, avg=169.42, stdev=502.93
    clat percentiles (usec):
     |  1.00th=[   52],  5.00th=[   59], 10.00th=[   63], 20.00th=[   69],
     | 30.00th=[   73], 40.00th=[   77], 50.00th=[   82], 60.00th=[   87],
     | 70.00th=[   94], 80.00th=[  108], 90.00th=[  145], 95.00th=[  239],
     | 99.00th=[ 1942], 99.50th=[ 3458], 99.90th=[ 7373], 99.95th=[ 8848],
     | 99.99th=[13829]
   bw (  KiB/s): min= 3306, max= 7416, per=25.06%, avg=5399.29, stdev=803.62, samples=119
   iops        : min=  826, max= 1854, avg=1349.81, stdev=200.91, samples=119
  lat (usec)   : 2=0.01%, 4=0.01%, 10=0.01%, 20=0.01%, 50=0.20%
  lat (usec)   : 100=23.44%, 250=69.43%, 500=3.16%, 750=0.97%, 1000=0.59%
  lat (msec)   : 2=1.01%, 4=0.70%, 10=0.44%, 20=0.05%, 50=0.01%
  cpu          : usr=2.35%, sys=12.88%, ctx=269434, majf=0, minf=14
  IO depths    : 1=100.0%, 2=0.0%, 4=0.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     submit    : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     complete  : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     issued rwts: total=188461,80899,0,0 short=0,0,0,0 dropped=0,0,0,0
     latency   : target=0, window=0, percentile=100.00%, depth=1
raw_lvm_test: (groupid=0, jobs=1): err= 0: pid=519616: Tue Mar 11 08:33:33 2025
  read: IOPS=3124, BW=12.2MiB/s (12.8MB/s)(732MiB/60001msec)
    slat (usec): min=6, max=7065, avg=18.18, stdev=35.00
    clat (nsec): min=1392, max=24672k, avg=224681.82, stdev=585940.48
     lat (usec): min=67, max=24689, avg=242.86, stdev=587.79
    clat percentiles (usec):
     |  1.00th=[   99],  5.00th=[  108], 10.00th=[  113], 20.00th=[  119],
     | 30.00th=[  124], 40.00th=[  129], 50.00th=[  135], 60.00th=[  141],
     | 70.00th=[  151], 80.00th=[  167], 90.00th=[  217], 95.00th=[  383],
     | 99.00th=[ 2606], 99.50th=[ 4178], 99.90th=[ 8029], 99.95th=[10290],
     | 99.99th=[14877]
   bw (  KiB/s): min= 7952, max=16152, per=24.98%, avg=12512.67, stdev=1787.17, samples=119
   iops        : min= 1988, max= 4038, avg=3128.15, stdev=446.80, samples=119
  write: IOPS=1343, BW=5372KiB/s (5501kB/s)(315MiB/60001msec); 0 zone resets
    slat (usec): min=7, max=7952, avg=18.50, stdev=37.15
    clat (nsec): min=1152, max=33331k, avg=155396.11, stdev=557284.81
     lat (usec): min=48, max=33350, avg=173.90, stdev=559.45
    clat percentiles (usec):
     |  1.00th=[   52],  5.00th=[   59], 10.00th=[   63], 20.00th=[   69],
     | 30.00th=[   73], 40.00th=[   77], 50.00th=[   82], 60.00th=[   87],
     | 70.00th=[   94], 80.00th=[  108], 90.00th=[  145], 95.00th=[  239],
     | 99.00th=[ 2073], 99.50th=[ 3687], 99.90th=[ 8094], 99.95th=[10290],
     | 99.99th=[16319]
   bw (  KiB/s): min= 3384, max= 7040, per=24.96%, avg=5377.54, stdev=788.61, samples=119
   iops        : min=  846, max= 1760, avg=1344.36, stdev=197.16, samples=119
  lat (usec)   : 2=0.01%, 4=0.01%, 10=0.01%, 20=0.01%, 50=0.19%
  lat (usec)   : 100=23.43%, 250=69.41%, 500=3.17%, 750=0.97%, 1000=0.57%
  lat (msec)   : 2=1.02%, 4=0.72%, 10=0.45%, 20=0.05%, 50=0.01%
  cpu          : usr=2.25%, sys=12.96%, ctx=268124, majf=0, minf=12
  IO depths    : 1=100.0%, 2=0.0%, 4=0.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     submit    : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     complete  : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     issued rwts: total=187486,80588,0,0 short=0,0,0,0 dropped=0,0,0,0
     latency   : target=0, window=0, percentile=100.00%, depth=1
raw_lvm_test: (groupid=0, jobs=1): err= 0: pid=519617: Tue Mar 11 08:33:33 2025
  read: IOPS=3128, BW=12.2MiB/s (12.8MB/s)(733MiB/60001msec)
    slat (usec): min=7, max=7000, avg=18.25, stdev=33.74
    clat (nsec): min=1463, max=32317k, avg=224987.77, stdev=591992.62
     lat (usec): min=60, max=32335, avg=243.24, stdev=593.98
    clat percentiles (usec):
     |  1.00th=[   99],  5.00th=[  108], 10.00th=[  113], 20.00th=[  119],
     | 30.00th=[  124], 40.00th=[  129], 50.00th=[  135], 60.00th=[  141],
     | 70.00th=[  151], 80.00th=[  165], 90.00th=[  217], 95.00th=[  383],
     | 99.00th=[ 2638], 99.50th=[ 4146], 99.90th=[ 8225], 99.95th=[10552],
     | 99.99th=[15008]
   bw (  KiB/s): min= 7920, max=16360, per=25.00%, avg=12526.51, stdev=1859.96, samples=119
   iops        : min= 1980, max= 4090, avg=3131.61, stdev=464.98, samples=119
  write: IOPS=1340, BW=5362KiB/s (5491kB/s)(314MiB/60001msec); 0 zone resets
    slat (usec): min=7, max=7483, avg=18.94, stdev=50.50
    clat (nsec): min=1283, max=22840k, avg=153239.84, stdev=529397.15
     lat (usec): min=51, max=22864, avg=172.18, stdev=535.15
    clat percentiles (usec):
     |  1.00th=[   52],  5.00th=[   59], 10.00th=[   63], 20.00th=[   69],
     | 30.00th=[   73], 40.00th=[   77], 50.00th=[   82], 60.00th=[   87],
     | 70.00th=[   94], 80.00th=[  106], 90.00th=[  145], 95.00th=[  245],
     | 99.00th=[ 1975], 99.50th=[ 3556], 99.90th=[ 7635], 99.95th=[10159],
     | 99.99th=[14615]
   bw (  KiB/s): min= 3208, max= 7192, per=24.91%, avg=5368.80, stdev=835.11, samples=119
   iops        : min=  802, max= 1798, avg=1342.18, stdev=208.77, samples=119
  lat (usec)   : 2=0.01%, 4=0.01%, 10=0.01%, 20=0.01%, 50=0.20%
  lat (usec)   : 100=23.48%, 250=69.26%, 500=3.25%, 750=0.98%, 1000=0.58%
  lat (msec)   : 2=1.00%, 4=0.72%, 10=0.45%, 20=0.05%, 50=0.01%
  cpu          : usr=2.38%, sys=12.97%, ctx=268185, majf=0, minf=13
  IO depths    : 1=100.0%, 2=0.0%, 4=0.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     submit    : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     complete  : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     issued rwts: total=187725,80437,0,0 short=0,0,0,0 dropped=0,0,0,0
     latency   : target=0, window=0, percentile=100.00%, depth=1
raw_lvm_test: (groupid=0, jobs=1): err= 0: pid=519618: Tue Mar 11 08:33:33 2025
  read: IOPS=3129, BW=12.2MiB/s (12.8MB/s)(733MiB/60001msec)
    slat (usec): min=4, max=9327, avg=18.18, stdev=35.82
    clat (nsec): min=1383, max=29383k, avg=224773.04, stdev=590609.69
     lat (usec): min=69, max=29399, avg=242.95, stdev=592.62
    clat percentiles (usec):
     |  1.00th=[   99],  5.00th=[  108], 10.00th=[  113], 20.00th=[  119],
     | 30.00th=[  124], 40.00th=[  129], 50.00th=[  135], 60.00th=[  141],
     | 70.00th=[  149], 80.00th=[  165], 90.00th=[  217], 95.00th=[  383],
     | 99.00th=[ 2638], 99.50th=[ 4178], 99.90th=[ 8225], 99.95th=[10421],
     | 99.99th=[14877]
   bw (  KiB/s): min= 7272, max=16536, per=25.01%, avg=12531.64, stdev=1825.67, samples=119
   iops        : min= 1818, max= 4134, avg=3132.89, stdev=456.43, samples=119
  write: IOPS=1354, BW=5419KiB/s (5549kB/s)(318MiB/60001msec); 0 zone resets
    slat (usec): min=6, max=6806, avg=18.68, stdev=35.26
    clat (nsec): min=1382, max=32262k, avg=152739.76, stdev=533134.45
     lat (usec): min=47, max=32280, avg=171.42, stdev=535.04
    clat percentiles (usec):
     |  1.00th=[   52],  5.00th=[   59], 10.00th=[   63], 20.00th=[   69],
     | 30.00th=[   73], 40.00th=[   77], 50.00th=[   82], 60.00th=[   87],
     | 70.00th=[   94], 80.00th=[  106], 90.00th=[  145], 95.00th=[  241],
     | 99.00th=[ 1942], 99.50th=[ 3556], 99.90th=[ 7504], 99.95th=[ 9503],
     | 99.99th=[15401]
   bw (  KiB/s): min= 3096, max= 7168, per=25.16%, avg=5422.89, stdev=797.49, samples=119
   iops        : min=  774, max= 1792, avg=1355.71, stdev=199.38, samples=119
  lat (usec)   : 2=0.01%, 4=0.01%, 10=0.01%, 20=0.01%, 50=0.20%
  lat (usec)   : 100=23.67%, 250=69.16%, 500=3.17%, 750=0.96%, 1000=0.61%
  lat (msec)   : 2=1.00%, 4=0.71%, 10=0.45%, 20=0.05%, 50=0.01%
  cpu          : usr=2.28%, sys=12.92%, ctx=269088, majf=0, minf=13
  IO depths    : 1=100.0%, 2=0.0%, 4=0.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     submit    : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     complete  : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
     issued rwts: total=187767,81283,0,0 short=0,0,0,0 dropped=0,0,0,0
     latency   : target=0, window=0, percentile=100.00%, depth=1

Run status group 0 (all jobs):
   READ: bw=48.9MiB/s (51.3MB/s), 12.2MiB/s-12.3MiB/s (12.8MB/s-12.9MB/s), io=2935MiB (3078MB), run=60001-60001msec
  WRITE: bw=21.0MiB/s (22.1MB/s), 5362KiB/s-5419KiB/s (5491kB/s-5549kB/s), io=1263MiB (1324MB), run=60001-60001msec
root@hbrr-proxmox:~#

    is lvm overhead this bad? chatgpt said it could be because my container is nearly full as well

  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad
    edited March 2025

    READ: bw=48.9MiB/s (51.3MB/s), 12.2MiB/s-12.3MiB/s (12.8MB/s-12.9MB/s), io=2935MiB (3078MB), run=60001-60001msec
    WRITE: bw=21.0MiB/s (22.1MB/s), 5362KiB/s-5419KiB/s (5491kB/s-5549kB/s), io=1263MiB (1324MB), run=60001-60001msec

    basically below a IDE drive, i think windows boot will finish in ~1 hour, if you let it boot, it will, I bet 100%

    PS; a disk yabs will be better, as if at 4K random RW you have below 15 MB/sec, it is a no-go for windows.

  • DeadlyChemistDeadlyChemist Member

    @host_c said: PS; a disk yabs will be better, as if at 4K random RW you have below 15 MB/sec, it is a no-go for windows.

    honestly im not sure how to do that...

    @host_c said: basically below a IDE drive, i think windows boot will finish in ~1 hour, if you let it boot, it will, I bet 100%

    i wonder what's causing this...

    will try to yabs the drive without windows

    for now i'll migrate my windows VM to other (slower) server but should be better speed because i dont understand what's happending to my server at hostbrr

    im overwhelmed

    so something is causing terrible terrible SSD, well IDE speeds
    which probably causes it problem with not booting using "host" preset

  • w3e4r5w3e4r5 Member

    @TimboJones said:
    To confirm, you're running a Hostbrr VPS, not a dedicated server, right?

    vm in vm ...... nothing can help

  • DeadlyChemistDeadlyChemist Member

    @w3e4r5 said: vm in vm ...... nothing can help

    95% efficiency plus 95% efficiency shouldn't be 15MB/s

  • TimboJonesTimboJones Member

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @w3e4r5 said: vm in vm ...... nothing can help

    95% efficiency plus 95% efficiency shouldn't be 15MB/s

    That doesn't make sense. You're NOT on a dedicated server, you're sharing the server with possibly hundreds of others.

  • DeadlyChemistDeadlyChemist Member

    @TimboJones said: That doesn't make sense. You're NOT on a dedicated server, you're sharing the server with possibly hundreds of others.

    how doesnt that make sense?

    i had 0 problems with windows 2022, great speed
    all i did, is put proxmox infront of it with 1 virtual machine, exactly the same windows server 2022
    same server
    same specs

    before:
    unknown hypervisor -> windows 2022
    after:
    unknown hypervisor -> proxmox -> windows 2022

  • e2bs2k1e2bs2k1 Member
    edited March 2025

    a extra hypervisor add much more overhead on VMM vmenter/vmexit and spinlocks, expecially there are two scheduler which result in much more bad decision, etc. The performance degrade is exponential not linear.
    If you don't believe and also won't study more depth on VMM and system sheduler then there are not much to talk...

    Thanked by 1DennisdeWit
  • RapToNRapToN Member, Host Rep

    I have never tried this before, but I would guess that it has to do with the CPU flags. Since CPU type ‘host’ does not work, I would suggest specifying all available CPU flags for your windows vm.

  • DeadlyChemistDeadlyChemist Member

    well i created a new VM, pretty much same settings HOST type
    and win server 2022 works.... just bloody works

    yeah, i assume some stuff i have installed in preventing boot, no fucking clue
    will debug

  • hyperblasthyperblast Member

    @DeadlyChemist said:
    well i created a new VM, pretty much same settings HOST type
    and win server 2022 works.... just bloody works

    yeah, i assume some stuff i have installed in preventing boot, no fucking clue
    will debug

    hbrr? in connection with windows server...?!

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4394595/#Comment_4394595

  • DeadlyChemistDeadlyChemist Member

    @hyperblast said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:
    well i created a new VM, pretty much same settings HOST type
    and win server 2022 works.... just bloody works

    yeah, i assume some stuff i have installed in preventing boot, no fucking clue
    will debug

    hbrr? in connection with windows server...?!

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4394595/#Comment_4394595

    im unsure what this supposed to mean

    well, as described earlier, i had 0 problems, problems started since i used proxmox on top

    for now continuing to pay bills hoping to find solution sooner than later

  • DeadlyChemistDeadlyChemist Member

    more debugging
    booting in safe mode (host preset) works fine!

    it has to be software, driver or similar...

  • wii747wii747 Member

    Have you installed the latest VirtIO Drivers on the window vm? I have been running server 2022 for years with no issue.

  • DeadlyChemistDeadlyChemist Member

    @wii747 said: Have you installed the latest VirtIO Drivers on the window vm? I have been running server 2022 for years with no issue.

    yupp, might honestly remove them all and reinstall them, im unsure
    pain because the VM has no internet (intended)

  • hades_corpshades_corps Member

    I have always under the impression that Windows does not like user replacing components. Is there a reason not to start from cratch?
    I always keep a "live" Windows template (not converted to proper template) to have it updated and ready to replace any intances that have issues.

  • DeadlyChemistDeadlyChemist Member

    @hades_corps said:
    I have always under the impression that Windows does not like user replacing components. Is there a reason not to start from cratch?
    I always keep a "live" Windows template (not converted to proper template) to have it updated and ready to replace any intances that have issues.

    Licenses, other users, activating all that shit

    Pain in the ass, days of calling MS support and probably 50-100€ for licenses on top

  • DeadlyChemistDeadlyChemist Member

    update:

    i have deinstalled buuuunch of things and tried a buuuunch of thngs

    it works! now idk why it works

    will try uninstalling drivers
    and then booting up again

    so backup, remove all drivers (virtio, parsec, etc) then see if it boots...

    pain in the ass, but im very close

  • DeadlyChemistDeadlyChemist Member
    edited May 2025

    i have solved it ! i think

    just remove wsl2 and hyperv stuff and it boots fine, i need to do more teste but yeah, that works fine
    dism.exe /online /disable-feature /featurename:Microsoft-Windows-Subsystem-Linux /norestart
    dism.exe /online /disable-feature /featurename:VirtualMachinePlatform /norestart
    dism.exe /online /disable-feature /featurename:Microsoft-Hyper-V-All /norestart
    Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName Microsoft-Hyper-V-Tools-All -NoRestart
    Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName Microsoft-Hyper-V-Management-PowerShell -NoRestart
    Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName Microsoft-Hyper-V-Management-Clients -NoRestart

    the commands are from AI, use your own sense to remove wsl2 and hyperv

    thanks to everyone trying to help!

    yeah it boots fine, instantly and disk speed is also fine, fuck knows what happened

    Thanked by 1cainyxues
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