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Telegram, are there any good self hosting options

painfreepcpainfreepc Member
edited March 2025 in General

Telegram, Are there any good self-hosted options, the question pretty much speaks for itself, I'm looking for something similar to Telegram, users need to be able to have an app to put on their phone and if I want to host about 1,000 plus members what kind of server power do i need.

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  • matrix, revolt & good old irc

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  • matrix/mattermost/rocket.chat

    there is no simple answer to "what server power do i need"

  • VoidVoid Member

    Matrix. The best part is, you can have bridges and talk to people from Telegram or WhatsApp or discord and many others.

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  • Matrix is probably the most lightweight solution. If your server is particularly active then you'll probably need 4 cores and 8GB of RAM to handle

    Storage will be more of an issue because if you have 1,000 users and each of them uploads 1GB of images/attachments then that would fill a 1TB disk so that'll be your pinch point.

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  • naphthanaphtha Member
    edited March 2025

    @CloudHopper said: Matrix is probably the most lightweight solution

    matrix is anything but lightweight

    buggy piece of garbage

    but hey it works, except when it doesnt. better than the alternatives imo and federation is cool

    for reference just the database for the kyun.host homeserver is a whopping 103gb. this is after every possible db cleaning method. media is only 87gb. the main room on the homeserver has 673 members but most are foreign users (i.e. not on the kyun homeserver - theyre federated from other homeservers)

  • @painfreepc said:
    Telegram, Are there any good self-hosted options, the question pretty much speaks for itself, I'm looking for something similar to Telegram, users need to be able to have an app to put on their phone and if I want to host about 1,000 plus members what kind of server power do i need.

    What are your rquirements? Anonymity? What features should be included?

  • @naphtha said:

    @CloudHopper said: Matrix is probably the most lightweight solution

    matrix is anything but lightweight

    buggy piece of garbage

    but hey it works, except when it doesnt. better than the alternatives imo and federation is cool

    for reference just the database for the kyun.host homeserver is a whopping 103gb. this is after every possible db cleaning method. media is only 87gb. the main room on the homeserver has 673 members but most are foreign users (i.e. not on the kyun homeserver - theyre federated from other homeservers)

    Which platform are you using for the homeserver? I've found the Conduwuit docker container is really lightweight and performant, (runs fine on a 1c/1g/20g VPS), but I only have a small group of users. There's definitely no DB bloating though and it's fairly active: https://github.com/girlbossceo/conduwuit

  • mrs92mrs92 Member

    @naphtha said: matrix is anything but lightweight

    Which one is more lightweight than Matrix?

    ~ Reguards ~

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  • @mrs92 said: Which one is more lightweight than Matrix?

    any non-federated protocol. mattermost, rocket.chat, etc. federation has an inherent bloat because data inevitably needs to get duplicated amongst many servers

    @CloudHopper said: Which platform are you using for the homeserver?

    synapse, it's the only homeserver implementation that supports 100% of the spec (because the real spec is whatever synapse does)

    plus, no offense but i'm not going to run any sensitive data through software that's developed by people like the conduwuit devs. the type that thinks it's funny to build in backdoors to pwn the nazis

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  • JohnFilch123JohnFilch123 Member
    edited March 2025

    https://github.com/actorapp/actor-platform There is a telegram fork, which I tried around 4-5 years ago. I think somebody ex-telegram forked the code and wanted to do their own messenger. However, the development has stopped but I guess you can still deploy it. It looks literally like telegram.

  • Mattermost or Rocket.Chat. For 1,000+ users are a good option, you’d want something with decent CPU and RAM, maybe a solid VPS with at least 4GB RAM to start, depending on how chatty your group gets.

  • kaitkait Member

    I want to sexually touch you for recommending XMPP, its the best.

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  • Wtf is that avatar

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  • A name that keeps popping up recently is Snikket. I've been meaning to check it out but have not had the time yet, but I see a lot of people mentioning it lately.

  • matrix with element client, zulip, rocketchat, mattermost

  • @mrs92 said:

    @naphtha said: matrix is anything but lightweight

    Which one is more lightweight than Matrix?

    This ↓

    Use https://conversations.im/ or https://another.im/ on your phone, and https://dino.im/ on your desktop.

  • Xmpp as others said
    Or irc server xD

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