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EasyVM sold to LevelOneServers?

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  • I'm confused, is this a deadpool or a merger? Where are the refugee offers, or does it not qualify as refugees since all moved to PureVoltage?

  • MichaelCeeMichaelCee Member
    edited March 2025

    @rcy026 said:
    I'm confused, is this a deadpool or a merger? Where are the refugee offers, or does it not qualify as refugees since all moved to PureVoltage?

    IMO it is a deadpool and a forced refugee situation. (For the good of the customers, sure)

  • @Ian_Dot_Tech said:
    We strive to do the right thing, as we always have in this industry, and we ask that you do the same. If you initiate a chargeback (which, we advise against) and have no intention of using the service, we ask that you inform us so we can reduce costs where possible.

    Now that's clear, I am very curious about one more thing.

    If only asset and ips were transferred as part of the deal/merger/acquisition.
    Under what contract/terms were customer data transferred under?
    I am sure, esteemed company like PureVoltage had one in place (not to mention if EasyVM had clause with right to do client data transfer or not).

    Without one, customer data transfer ahem ahem...

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited March 2025

    @Ian_Dot_Tech said: To address the talks about chargebacks and keeping the service. I would like to say, I do not want anyone committing fraud in an attempt to save money.

    If you bought a service in one location and its shipped off to another location, with no possibility of a refund, charging back is fraud?

    I highly very much doubt that.

    But yes, not a lawyer what do I know.

  • wadhahwadhah Member, Host Rep

    i hope the 2 threads get merged, the bootlickers must be tired jumping from one thread to another

    Thanked by 2emgh Blembim
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @wadhah said:
    i hope the 2 threads get merged, the bootlickers must be tired jumping from one thread to another

    Be thankful that your server was down with no proper notification it could have been down for longer with no proper notification also don't chargeback.

    Thanked by 3wadhah admax barbaros
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    petition to merge this with https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/203368/easyvm-joins-the-purevoltage-family#latest as the discussion going on is the same @FAT32 @Arkas

    maybe with the other thread as the one remaining as it's an "official announcement" - if possible given that it was created afterwards? idk you're the responsible ones you figure it out :D

  • wadhahwadhah Member, Host Rep

    @emgh said:
    petition to merge this with https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/203368/easyvm-joins-the-purevoltage-family#latest as the discussion going on is the same @FAT32 @Arkas

    maybe with the other thread as the one remaining as it's an "official announcement" - if possible given that it was created afterwards? idk you're the responsible ones you figure it out :D

    What a clear, distinct, and concise observation!

    @FAT32 I think @emgh deserves extra permissions so you won't get bothered with this trivial stuff anymore.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @wadhah said: @FAT32 I think @emgh deserves extra permissions so you won't get bothered with this trivial stuff anymore.

    Thank you even though this very resonable wish will fall on deaf ears I still very much appreciate it!

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate
    edited March 2025

    @rogerwilco said:
    What's the over-under this becomes an LEB article in the next 24 hours?

    @SirFoxy is working on it and @raindog308 is narrating the video.

  • Ian_Dot_TechIan_Dot_Tech Member, Patron Provider

    @emgh said:

    @Ian_Dot_Tech said: To address the talks about chargebacks and keeping the service. I would like to say, I do not want anyone committing fraud in an attempt to save money.

    If you bought a service in one location and its shipped off to another location, with no possibility of a refund, charging back is fraud?

    I highly very much doubt that.

    But yes, not a lawyer what do I know.

    I completely understand, this was strictly in reference to the comments which inferred they could chargeback and continue to use their service (as no one would know).

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @Ian_Dot_Tech said:

    @emgh said:

    @Ian_Dot_Tech said: To address the talks about chargebacks and keeping the service. I would like to say, I do not want anyone committing fraud in an attempt to save money.

    If you bought a service in one location and its shipped off to another location, with no possibility of a refund, charging back is fraud?

    I highly very much doubt that.

    But yes, not a lawyer what do I know.

    I completely understand, this was strictly in reference to the comments which inferred they could chargeback and continue to use their service (as no one would know).

    I’d think that’s even less likely to be fraud given that you’re providing this service as a nice gesture. The chargeback is directed at the company who previously provided the service.

    You can’t not be responsible for refunding, while maintaining that there’s a connection to the previous payment and the service, such that chargebacking makes using the current service not okay.

    IF the current product is dependant on the money NOT being chargebacked, you’re also responsible for refunds. You can’t have it both ways.

    Also, even if your argument was true, you seriously think it would be fraud to not ticket in to a company completely unrelated to the company you chargebacked to let them know you’ve chargebacked? What if that client never agreed for you to even have that data and don’t want to yet again provide you with their data?

    I’m sorry but I’m not sure you’re in a situation where you can say what others are doing is illegal.

  • Agreed, I think it is more of a moral issue than a legal/fraud issue. #notalawyer

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  • So anyway... deals?

  • @Decicus said:
    So anyway... deals?

    I can offer you 5$/year Ryzen 9950X deals on EasyVM. Make the payment to EasyVM and PureVoltage will send you details soon.

  • @Ian_Dot_Tech said:
    To address the talks about chargebacks and keeping the service. I would like to say, I do not want anyone committing fraud in an attempt to save money.

    I just realized, as EasyVM was never acquired by PureVoltage, and customer acquisition never happened over paper (already publicly claimed on LET).
    Remember : The acquisition is only for hardware and IP.

    Hence, EasyVM failed to provide any/all service to everyone who had anything with them (VPS/Dedicated etc). So, chargebacks will be completely justified (without any fraud implications).

    Now, what people are actually getting from PureVoltage is actually freebie with no contract in place, and is purely out of PV goodwill.

  • @srch07 said:

    @Ian_Dot_Tech said:
    To address the talks about chargebacks and keeping the service. I would like to say, I do not want anyone committing fraud in an attempt to save money.

    I just realized, as EasyVM was never acquired by PureVoltage, and customer acquisition never happened over paper (already publicly claimed on LET).
    Remember : The acquisition is only for hardware and IP.

    Hence, EasyVM failed to provide any/all service to everyone who had anything with them (VPS/Dedicated etc). So, chargebacks will be completely justified (without any fraud implications).

    Now, what people are actually getting from PureVoltage is actually freebie with no contract in place, and is purely out of PV goodwill.

    Honest question, as people shouting around "chargeback yesterday". How many people managed to chargeback successfully. If the company is liquidated and there is no money in their bank etc. how will they customers' bank will claim the money back?

  • techdragontechdragon Member
    edited March 2025

    @barbaros said:

    @srch07 said:

    @Ian_Dot_Tech said:
    To address the talks about chargebacks and keeping the service. I would like to say, I do not want anyone committing fraud in an attempt to save money.

    I just realized, as EasyVM was never acquired by PureVoltage, and customer acquisition never happened over paper (already publicly claimed on LET).
    Remember : The acquisition is only for hardware and IP.

    Hence, EasyVM failed to provide any/all service to everyone who had anything with them (VPS/Dedicated etc). So, chargebacks will be completely justified (without any fraud implications).

    Now, what people are actually getting from PureVoltage is actually freebie with no contract in place, and is purely out of PV goodwill.

    Honest question, as people shouting around "chargeback yesterday". How many people managed to chargeback successfully. If the company is liquidated and there is no money in their bank etc. how will they customers' bank will claim the money back?

    You can still issue a chargeback. For example, Stripe will just issue a negative balance and eventually try to take legal action. PayPal are another example. Many other payment processors will do the same. In some cases, the customer's financial institution will refund it whether they later try to reclaim it or not. There are also joint liability clauses on some type of payment methods and amounts (Section 75 or similar depending on issuing country).

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