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IDrive e2 decreased free egress from 3:1 to 1:1

In addition to the price hike a few months ago, IDrive has silently decreased the egress policy from 3:1 to just a 1:1 ratio.

New policy:

Good fit - If the monthly egress (download) is less than or equal to your active storage volume.

https://www.idrive.com/s3-storage-e2/faq-pricing#egress-policy

Old policy:

Good fit - If the monthly egress (download) is less than or equal to thrice the storage volume.

https://e2help.idrive.com/hc/en-us/articles/10910766716573-IDrive-e2-pricing-policies

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  • they first increased pricing then, now this i cancelled my service with them last year.

  • Wasabi has also done something similar. Very fucking annoying.

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  • labzelabze Member, Patron Provider

    Too bad. Their pricing has gone through the roof in just a few years while also they now reducing the resources.

  • TangeTange Member
    edited March 2025

    if these cheap object storage service keep raising price, and the NVME price keep going down, why don't we keep all the data just in an unlimite bandwidth server with NVME? then no more crap api fees or something

  • manouchehrimanouchehri Member
    edited March 2025

    They're pretty close in pricing to Backblaze B2 now.

    Advantages of IDrive e2:

    • Cheaper ($0.05/GB for storage compared to B2's $0.06/GB)
    • Custom domain support (though the SSL process is manual, very annoying to have to use the web UI to copy in renewed certificates every 90 days)
    • Access audit logging
    • Supports AWS SQS for event notifications
    • More locations to pick from (though they did close two regions in the past year, Madrid and Bengaluru)
    • $0 per API request (this only adds up to a meaningful difference if you have millions of GetObject/HeadObject requests or tons of event notifications)

    Advantages of Backblaze B2:

    • Higher uptime (from my measurements anyway)
    • $0/GB for unlimited bandwidth if downloaded through a Cloudflare IP
    • Free egress when under a 3:1 storage/download ratio
    • IPv6 support
    • CORS rules can be set per bucket (e2 only allows a single policy per region)
    • Simpler HTTP webhook format for event notifications
    • Larger public company (though unprofitable)

    If you care about HA, I would recommend set up IDrive e2 Object Replication or Backblaze Cloud Replication. Both have too much downtime to rely on a single region (so in my opinion you have to 2x the storage prices, but I would say that for almost any provider other than AWS).

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  • @Tange said:
    if these cheap object storage service keep raising price, and the NVME price keep going down, why don't we keep all the data just in an unlimited bandwidth server with NVME? then no more crap api fees or something

    Spending sysadmin time isn't free for some of us sadly.

  • The S3 from Mega is by far the best value for money. Not sure how long they will last however.Everyone is shrinking, and I even think my self-built minio is pretty cost-effective now - but it's going to cost an ungodly amount of maintenance time.

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  • Replication is a good advancement for e2, and much needed. It's been a great service regardless for me and my needs

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  • @danblaze said:
    The S3 from Mega is by far the best value for money. Not sure how long they will last however.Everyone is shrinking, and I even think my self-built minio is pretty cost-effective now - but it's going to cost an ungodly amount of maintenance time.

    Thanks, didn't know they had object storage! For a lot of people, the minimum €15.00/m for 3TB seems a bit high.

  • @manouchehri said:

    @danblaze said:
    The S3 from Mega is by far the best value for money. Not sure how long they will last however.Everyone is shrinking, and I even think my self-built minio is pretty cost-effective now - but it's going to cost an ungodly amount of maintenance time.

    Thanks, didn't know they had object storage! For a lot of people, the minimum €15.00/m for 3TB seems a bit high.

    True, but they still offer triple export rates.

  • CoolGeekCoolGeek Member
    edited March 2025

    I think iDrive e2's "good fit" policy sucks, for sure, but I just downloaded twice the paid storage, and it was fine. If they complained, I was going to point out that I signed up and paid for a year with 3 times the egress, but I hate having to worry about it. I'm leaving them. The whole insane price increases, and the bandwidth shrink "just because we can" is too much.

  • CoolGeekCoolGeek Member
    edited March 2025

    Actually, I just found this email:

    Subject: Excess download warning for your IDrive® e2 account

    We recently noticed an excess download from your IDrive® e2 account. The download rate violates our free egress policy and if this continues, we reserve the right to take appropriate actions.

    As per our policy, monthly egress (download), should be less than or equal to the active storage volume.

    Note: If your use case exceeds the guidelines of our free egress policy, we reserve the right to limit or suspend your account.

    I downloaded the data twice. That email is outrageous for a service that was fully paid when it sold as 3 times egress.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    I store all backups on Backblaze and the more recent ones on Cloudflare as well. Works great

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  • ZerpyZerpy Member

    @Tange said:
    if these cheap object storage service keep raising price, and the NVME price keep going down, why don't we keep all the data just in an unlimite bandwidth server with NVME? then no more crap api fees or something

    If anything NVMe pricing went up when you buy enterprise grade equipment, because someone (Samsung for example) inflate the pricing by reducing the NAND production.

    Look at PM9A3 3.84TB for example:

  • I use iDrive e2 as backup for Storj. It's cheap and I only archive so it's OK. Storj is my primary and I like it better and also I got $25 in credit each month for five years as a sign of appreciation for my open source work :)

  • For whatever it's worth, I messaged iDrive e2 support about the bait and switch of selling me 3 times egress that's now 1 times.

    They sent back a 100% generic response referencing the current policy.

    If it were month-to-month, sure, they could change it, but you can't have a customer pre-pay for a year then change the terms to be worse. What if your use case scenario had you downloading 2.5 times the amount of data stored every month?

    Fortunately, my account ends next month, and I'm totally out of there. Buyer beware.

  • valmikivalmiki Member
    edited March 2025

    We use IDrive e2 for our primary storage for all our storage workloads and it looks like their free egress is 3x now.

  • CoolGeekCoolGeek Member
    edited March 2025

    I just looked at their e2 page, and incredibly, it now says "Download less than or equal to 3X your active storage volume for free!" They literally replied to my support ticket 2 days ago with "As per the current egress policy, you can only download the amount of data which you have uploaded."

  • TionTion Member

    I guess the cancellations were too many to ignore. Still, it makes them look unprofessional. iDrive was never the cream of the crop when it came to S3 storage providers. You went with them for price, not performance. Whoever decided to make this change seriously misjudged iDrive's position in the market.

  • @Tange said:
    if these cheap object storage service keep raising price, and the NVME price keep going down, why don't we keep all the data just in an unlimite bandwidth server with NVME? then no more crap api fees or something

    Higher availability, if a drive fails, then your data is gone.

    More bandwidth, if you're using object storage for content delivery, then you can get much higher throughput than what your server can provide.

    On the other hand, you have to pay for requests like you said and you're at the mercy of the provider, so they can rate limit you (Backblaze B2) or have an outage (Cloudflare R2) at any time.

  • @danblaze said:
    True, but they still offer triple export rates.

    It's 5x, not 3x. But there's the 15 euros upfront cost.

  • TangeTange Member

    @gremeyer said:

    @danblaze said:
    True, but they still offer triple export rates.

    It's 5x, not 3x. But there's the 15 euros upfront cost.

    is Maga OSS finished thier beta? their price is so good, however i didn't see the limits on their site, is it a good OSS service to deliver HLS streaming file?

  • @Tange said:
    is Maga OSS finished thier beta? their price is so good, however i didn't see the limits on their site, is it a good OSS service to deliver HLS streaming file?

    Yes, they're out of beta. No, I haven't tried them because they have a free egress limit.

  • TangeTange Member

    @gremeyer said:

    Yes, they're out of beta. No, I haven't tried them because they have a free egress limit.

    everyone has egress limit, if you use CDN, x5 egress bandwidth should be enough for your project, or you don't want to use CDN, that's another story

  • gremeyergremeyer Member
    edited March 2025

    @Tange said:
    everyone has egress limit, if you use CDN, x5 egress bandwidth should be enough for your project, or you don't want to use CDN, that's another story

    For backups, it can be.

  • @gremeyer said:

    @danblaze said:
    True, but they still offer triple export rates.

    It's 5x, not 3x. But there's the 15 euros upfront cost.

    I think I'm misremembering, all in all, quite generous. But I'm not sure how long this will last. It even seems a little too generous to me.

  • just wanted to comment, we have been seing more and more corrupted data on idrive S3 (resulting on losing data). plus some network congestion since few weeks already.

    We escaped from Wasabi, because they lost/corrupted data.
    now the same with idrive S3, and we just have 50TB with them, and less than a year, and they have already screw all up.

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  • TangeTange Member

    @Zhenmue said:
    just wanted to comment, we have been seing more and more corrupted data on idrive S3 (resulting on losing data). plus some network congestion since few weeks already.

    We escaped from Wasabi, because they lost/corrupted data.
    now the same with idrive S3, and we just have 50TB with them, and less than a year, and they have already screw all up.

    ah... you need backup server for your object storage, sounds wired but it's ture

  • @Tange said:

    @Zhenmue said:
    just wanted to comment, we have been seing more and more corrupted data on idrive S3 (resulting on losing data). plus some network congestion since few weeks already.

    We escaped from Wasabi, because they lost/corrupted data.
    now the same with idrive S3, and we just have 50TB with them, and less than a year, and they have already screw all up.

    ah... you need backup server for your object storage, sounds wired but it's ture

    maybe, but seeing data corruption in wasabi and now in idrive2, seems they are not reliable at all.

    why would anyone store 100-200tb or more with them, if they can corrupt data or "lose" few files every few thousand files (Wich makes backups worthless). plus, that's after the data is stored and verified, so is something you can't keep track of.

  • @Zhenmue said:

    @Tange said:

    @Zhenmue said:
    just wanted to comment, we have been seing more and more corrupted data on idrive S3 (resulting on losing data). plus some network congestion since few weeks already.

    We escaped from Wasabi, because they lost/corrupted data.
    now the same with idrive S3, and we just have 50TB with them, and less than a year, and they have already screw all up.

    ah... you need backup server for your object storage, sounds wired but it's ture

    maybe, but seeing data corruption in wasabi and now in idrive2, seems they are not reliable at all.

    why would anyone store 100-200tb or more with them, if they can corrupt data or "lose" few files every few thousand files (Wich makes backups worthless). plus, that's after the data is stored and verified, so is something you can't keep track of.

    Well, you shouldn't keep all your eggs in one basket anyway. You should duplicate them to multiple types baskets and put one of them far away from the others.

    3-2-1
    three copies
    two types of media
    one off-site

    99.999999999 (nine nines) data integrity doesn't help you if you store 10,000,000,000 bits of data, because one bit will statistically not be accounted for.

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