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Worldstream rising prices / looking for alternative

edited March 2025 in Providers

Got recently email from Worldstream that they are rising prices for my dedi. I did lock in for 1 year with this good spec, but perhaps it's time to move. Renewal is coming up soon.

Intel Xeon E3-1230v6
Memory: 16GB
1x 1TB HDD
1GBps unmetered

Any suggestions which providers can match or close the deal for ~100 EUR / 1GBps unmetered in Netherlands? From quick search I only found Novogara, but they look shady. Never had any issues with Worldstream, but I hate this type of price bumps, wish I signed 3 year contract with them.

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  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    Leaseweb reseller such as @HostDZire can probably offer you something a lot more competitive price wise

  • LeviLevi Member

    @allthemtings said:
    Leaseweb reseller such as @HostDZire can probably offer you something a lot more competitive price wise

    Leaseweb is notorious for increasing price regularly, a.k.a. pulling cPanel. So, be aware...

    Thanked by 2allthemtings Jokull
  • @allthemtings said:
    Huge increase honestly, end is near

    I mean the problem is that it's not the only provider. So I need to keep hopping like retard between providers in different countries otherwise I lose 10%-20% profits.

  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    Checkout tube-hosting very good for Netherlands @TheGreatOakley

  • SilverCreekSilverCreek Member, Patron Provider, Megathread Squad

    We have a handful of Xeon's going up in Amsterdam soon, they'd be Silver and Gold processors though. If you're looking to move feel free to give us a shout.

    Thanked by 1allthemtings
  • LeviLevi Member

    @TheGreatOakley said:

    @allthemtings said:
    Huge increase honestly, end is near

    I mean the problem is that it's not the only provider. So I need to keep hopping like retard between providers in different countries otherwise I lose 10%-20% profits.

    You think like peon. Think like champion: pull cPanel on your clients.

  • djuniordjunior Member, Patron Provider

    Hi! We can offer something more powerful, for even lower than €100/month.

    Dual Intel Xeon E5-2640v4 (20c/40t) (Or very similar CPU)
    128 GB DDR4 RAM
    2x 960 GB SSD
    10G - 330 TB + 1 IPv4
    Amsterdam, The Netherlands

    €90/month

  • Have you considered Scaleway?

  • HostSlickHostSlick 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    wtf?
    Something tells me we are too cheap.

    The last e3 shitbox like that i sold was last year and i gave it to a customer for 35€/m with 100TB Traffic and ddos protection (aurologic 1.6tbit) included. It was same CPU just double ram and a 1TB SSD.

    But good to know they are might doing a increase. Might move my website server i host there outside my infra. Which is arround the same spec as well. I havent received a email yet though.

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  • RickBakkrRickBakkr Member, Patron Provider, LIR

    This is an interesting thing that I observe with massive price hikes .. happening within a year after a takeover by an private equity firm ... there are more such events in the last few months in the Dutch industry at least ... ;-)

  • Epyc/Ryzen will run circles around those ancient E3/E5. This is some serious dumpster necrophilia for outrageous prices.

    @advinservers VDS perhaps? Unless you go into the 128GB+ range I dont see why you should go dedi

  • JordJord Moderator, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    My server has had a 3 eur price increase, sure why not, but what I don't like is why cut in half the bandwidth and the DDoS Protection, 100TB to 50TB and 40Gbit/s to 20Gbit/s so increase the price but cut the service....

  • HostSlickHostSlick 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @RickBakkr said:
    This is an interesting thing that I observe with massive price hikes .. happening within a year after a takeover by an private equity firm ... there are more such events in the last few months in the Dutch industry at least ... ;-)

    Worldstream got taken over?

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  • djuniordjunior Member, Patron Provider

    @HostSlick said:

    @RickBakkr said:
    This is an interesting thing that I observe with massive price hikes .. happening within a year after a takeover by an private equity firm ... there are more such events in the last few months in the Dutch industry at least ... ;-)

    Worldstream got taken over?

    Yes, https://freshstream.com/freshstream-agrees-to-invest-in-worldstream/ (https://www.worldstream.com/en/news/freshstream-acquires-majority-stake-in-worldstream-and-strengthens-management-team).

    Thanked by 3MikeA emgh jlet88
  • Good suggestions. Will look into it. Thanks people.

  • I've always found Worldstream hella overrated. Compared to many other NL hosts, their network is not better, hardware is not cheaper and not more abuse friendly. Never knew what their appeal was, but I personally hate hosts that get seller's remorse after offering "deals" and then hike prices down the road.

  • Petey_LongPetey_Long Barred
    edited March 2025

    @hizakura (NL)

    If you don't mind a continent change - @crunchbits @fiberstate

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  • johndeo983johndeo983 Member
    edited March 2025

    I mean your are paying 93 euro for stone age 14 years old CPU and collectible hard disk, Why not try to take advantage of you more?
    New sucker born every day

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited March 2025

    Get a Rise-S which costs like half and is a whole lot better. You’re being fucked.

    Unless NL is a strict requirement that is.

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  • @emgh said:
    Get a Rise-S which costs like half and is a whole lot better. You’re being fucked.

    Unless NL is a strict requirement that is.

    yep, hard to beat OVH/Scaleway/OneProvider.

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  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Patron Provider

    Ours is not far for higher end CPU:
    https://www.clouvider.com/dedicated-servers/amsterdam/

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @djunior said:

    @HostSlick said:

    @RickBakkr said:
    This is an interesting thing that I observe with massive price hikes .. happening within a year after a takeover by an private equity firm ... there are more such events in the last few months in the Dutch industry at least ... ;-)

    Worldstream got taken over?

    Yes, https://freshstream.com/freshstream-agrees-to-invest-in-worldstream/ (https://www.worldstream.com/en/news/freshstream-acquires-majority-stake-in-worldstream-and-strengthens-management-team).

    Oh hell no, not them.

  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran
    edited March 2025

    It's too bad, Worldstream is pretty premium. No complaints in regards to the service they offered.

    While our pricing isn't increasing for our existing servers, or at least we've not yet been told, they can no longer honor our pricing on new deployments moving forward. So we haven't introduced any stock in a bit and are planning on moving to a new DC in Amsterdam proper in the coming months. It's a shame, too. We're spending about $5K/mo here and there doesn't seem to wiggle room or negotiation available to let us maintain our existing pricing on some custom builds to keep us. I've already let the small number of dedicated server clients know they need a new home by September 1st, I'm not interested in trying to migrate them, too. We'll send a proper announcement out about VPS migrations once we've got something more certain set in stone.

    But hey, that's business.

  • edited March 2025

    @Clouvider said: Ours is not far for higher end CPU:

    we're using their 24C EPYC 7402P + 64GB RAM + 2x960gb + 1gig unmetered offer for 233euro w/ new pricing.

    do you offer something similar?

  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Patron Provider

    @nanankcornering said:

    @Clouvider said: Ours is not far for higher end CPU:

    we're using their 24C EPYC 7402P + 64GB RAM + 2x960gb + 1gig unmetered offer for 233euro w/ new pricing.

    do you offer something similar?

    Single CPU Epycs are sold out in AMS.
    Dual CPU has somem availability but it is more expensive:
    https://www.clouvider.com/dedicated-servers/amsterdam/

  • ZerpyZerpy Member

    @Levi said:
    Leaseweb is notorious for increasing price regularly, a.k.a. pulling cPanel. So, be aware...

    4% yearly, sometimes less. At least one can expect it - I much rather have a constant 4% increase than a random 30% increase out of nowhere.

    Most datacenters also have a fixed annual escalator, for IMDC for example it's 5% by default I believe.

    "Pulling a cPanel" is more than 4% sir.

  • LeviLevi Member

    @Zerpy said:

    @Levi said:
    Leaseweb is notorious for increasing price regularly, a.k.a. pulling cPanel. So, be aware...

    4% yearly, sometimes less. At least one can expect it - I much rather have a constant 4% increase than a random 30% increase out of nowhere.

    Most datacenters also have a fixed annual escalator, for IMDC for example it's 5% by default I believe.

    "Pulling a cPanel" is more than 4% sir.

    To pull cPanel - to lock in customer as much as possible and than bend it over and fck deep in the ass upon investors changing.

    You may have escalators, contracts or whatever, there is always a way to violate you. Some does it more often then the others.

  • VPSSLIMVPSSLIM Patron Provider, Veteran
    edited March 2025

    We see this all over The Netherlands. A lot of DC's and providers raising their prices significantly. Some part is inflation, some part is higher operational costs (employees + unstable power pricing) and some part is venture capital.

  • ZerpyZerpy Member

    @Levi said:
    To pull cPanel - to lock in customer as much as possible and than bend it over and fck deep in the ass upon investors changing.

    They increase prices once a year, based on when your service was activated. So signing up in April 2025? Then your 4% is April 2026.

    It's 4%, and if you don't like that as a customer, you can sign up for any other provider which doesn't do 4% yearly but instead hit you with 10, 20, 30% every 2-4 years because "market changed".

    But I guess you're just salty, and that's ok, luckily you can always keep switching providers to keep your $7/mo pricing

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