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Yeah that's the balance that we need to strike. New people can/are welcome, that is the point.
The flip side is that it is members here, all of you (many kisses), that push hosts that are active and contributing. You help with recommendations (on/off platform) to threads, help for SEO/search results, and generally just giving usually good and fair feedback when we (hosts) mess up or can improve something. You might not even realize how much a single comment or recommendation turns into a big project or update that ties in a lot of new features or even policy shaping. I see the flipside to that being fair crack at deals that otherwise never make it anywhere else.
Problem? Those deals are sniped by people who make it their duty to take all stock and then resell (at a higher price) to non-target markets and there is a huge disconnect between what we sold and what they paid for it/think they bought. I can't speak for all hosts, but I don't want that. It's a bad deal for whoever the final buyer is and a bad deal for us. I love brainstorming prizes, a fun sale, a new niche-target product but then when only 1/30 people that attempt from this forum beats the litany of bots/scrapers/resellers nobody is happy and it just wears you down.
There is solution to that, but it will impact all the sales majorly so I doubt any provider would implement it. But it's free to voice your opinion.
If you limit service transfers of "good deal servers" then people will start selling their account whoever to buyer is.
You can prevent this by asking ID / card verification from customers, but then this would cause a lot of customers running away I guess. Only option coming to my mind is limiting how many "flash deal servers" a customer can buy, but again this would cost you sales or people having multiple accounts.
The good old method of offering all the flash deals at once would be the most fair but that doesn't bring enough attention / interaction to thread.
PS: I wouldn't mind getting some Crunchbit tshirt in return of my "valuable" feedback.
Edit: I still can't believe people blamed @FAT32 for getting some deal too quick, or maybe I misread?
There was some fight at the thread between members also (apart from mine)
This puts the work on providers, but would it be hard to set promotional stock to be ineligible for service transfer? Appreciate that then creates support tickets and other queries that might make it not worth the trouble.
For most goods I buy online I have no expectation that I can transfer the license when I no longer want it. Feel like hosting providers allowing plan transfers an exception.
Another option might be to limit transfers until after so many days or months. That way someone can pass it on if they want to down the line because they used the service but need to re-size, but they will have had to commit for a period too such that buying to resell may be less appealing. Say, you can transfer after 6 or 12 months of ownership. That’d probably align with about 30-50% of most plans length but also caters for monthlies.
I have no idea if the hosts commercial tools can track that but automatically and if not it might mean manual enforcement.
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Morning LET !!!
So....
Whats the plan for Saturday?
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I believe @NDTN did implement a cool down period of 30 days before a service can be transferred away. Not sure how much of a deterrent it is. Technically one is loosing 30 days of service but for the buyer, that opens up a way to still get a banger deal at a slight premium.
@NDTN how has this action worked for GreenCloud?
What anything?
Would be interested to hear too.
I went with 6-12 months on my post as the hits more significant, I think, and the longer turn around means people looking to resell are stuck with the inventory for some time.
Might still be issues of people creating new accounts and selling the credentials though, so it’s not foolproof by any means. I’ve liked the ‘active users only’ in this instance, but does hamper legit first time buyers too.
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So, you didn't get message about migration from them earlier? Maybe that's why.
Update: Yes
Nice point about legit new users.
Like @crunchbits said, it's the most challenging to strike the right balance.
You become too loose and shit hits the fan.
You make it too strict shit still hits the fan
And no one is wiser/ happier .
Maybe we just need everyone to crack a code
42-PQFDA14TAF-SLAED-On a more serious point but, I wonder if there’s been any change once it was worked out people were scanning the location images here were being uploaded to.
I do think this threads running pretty well on the whole? Certainly haven’t got everything I went after, but have got some good deals. There’s been a good flow of codes across the day that hopefully people wanting a plan and not being toooo specific about which one, got something. Some of the 50% Genoa codes hang around a bit too. I suspect my timezone is helping as a number of pickups I got were probably less convenient to other countries, but on the balance I usually miss stacks of flash sales around back Friday due to timezones too.
Edit: I also think the ‘existing users only’ works pretty well when you concurrently have a sale that has $15yr stock available. Anyone wanting to participate don’t have too steep a barrier to participate.
One moar cloud resource deal and I'll stop.
one can only hope
Deals where??
It's saturday babe, @NDTN forgot his laptop password
Ho ho ho
Merry Saturday
Our previous terms were a bit loose, with the 30 days period and $10 fee on top of that we believe it has deterred the "deal" gap. But yes, many of them sneaked around by changing the account email for resell purposes, which we ofc cannot ban this as there are clients who need to change the email for real. However, when the account is detected (and we can detect it) as have been resold, it would be terminated. So hopefully the buyers can keep the risk in mind and refrain from such transactions.
ha ha ha
Merry Saturday
I think the code in image combined with the active user condition has helped a lot. Usually I have zero chance of getting a flash deal but the past couple days I have been able to a get a few.
Also, I think the active user stipulation works especially well in this particular situation bc the barrier to entry is not too great, as GreenCloud is also having very good sales available on their website without a promo code. I was a new GreenCloud user a few days ago and purchased one of their storage VPS's which, even without a code, was still very good value. Gaining access to these flash deals was a nice bonus.
deals
You guys managed to grab the deals? 😯
yes usually on mobile too
Being with them for (almost) a decade. Can prove the love at first sight deals.
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