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  • _MS__MS_ Member

    LowEndOverflow.

    Thanked by 7Decicus truemagic admax beanman109 Blembim lukast__ host_c
  • DecicusDecicus Member
    edited February 2025

    115

    Thanked by 3beanman109 Blembim _MS_
  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @lukast__ said:
    Well, I need to do rate-limiting for a small website @host_c asked me to write, is there any efficient and easy way to do this with PHP that doesn't involve fail2ban/a firewall and allows me to handle any IPv6 in a /64 as a single IP and automatically re-allow the IPs after a certain time? At the moment I'm doing it with a json file in a ramdisk but that feels wrong and inefficient.


    Not going to say more about the website...

    Caddy?

    Thanked by 5admax lukast__ Decicus Blembim host_c
  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad
    edited February 2025

    @beanman109 said:

    @beanman109 said:

    @lukast__ said:
    Well, I need to do rate-limiting for a small website @host_c asked me to write, is there any efficient and easy way to do this with PHP that doesn't involve fail2ban/a firewall and allows me to handle any IPv6 in a /64 as a single IP and automatically re-allow the IPs after a certain time? At the moment I'm doing it with a json file in a ramdisk but that feels wrong and inefficient.


    Not going to say more about the website...

    gpt is considering rate-limiting options...

    @lukast__ what are you thoughts on redis?

    Haven't used it and IMHO it seems a bit overkill to install a db engine for rate-limiting. Thanks anyway!

    @FAT32 said:

    @lukast__ said:
    Well, I need to do rate-limiting for a small website @host_c asked me to write, is there any efficient and easy way to do this with PHP that doesn't involve fail2ban/a firewall and allows me to handle any IPv6 in a /64 as a single IP and automatically re-allow the IPs after a certain time? At the moment I'm doing it with a json file in a ramdisk but that feels wrong and inefficient.


    Not going to say more about the website...

    Just hook it to nginx and set a rate limit: https://nginx.org/en/docs/http/ngx_http_limit_req_module.html

    Am already using it so will go with it. Doesn't seem to be able to handle IPv6 subnets though, but I'll ignore that for now as there's anyway no real way to determine whether IPs belong to a particular host because basically anyone can get a /40 or lower for cheap. Thanks!

    @Decicus said:

    @lukast__ said:
    Well, I need to do rate-limiting for a small website @host_c asked me to write, is there any efficient and easy way to do this with PHP that doesn't involve fail2ban/a firewall and allows me to handle any IPv6 in a /64 as a single IP and automatically re-allow the IPs after a certain time? At the moment I'm doing it with a json file in a ramdisk but that feels wrong and inefficient.


    Not going to say more about the website...

    Are you limited to only having PHP and filesystem access? How about Redis or any form of SQL database?

    Also, not sure if you had already handled how to deal with IPv6 subnets, but I believe I used https://github.com/mlocati/ip-lib a few years ago doing something similar (or maybe that was just IPv4).

    I'm not limited to anything at all, but I think a db is a bit overkill. But thanks!

    @plumberg said:

    @lukast__ said:
    Well, I need to do rate-limiting for a small website @host_c asked me to write, is there any efficient and easy way to do this with PHP that doesn't involve fail2ban/a firewall and allows me to handle any IPv6 in a /64 as a single IP and automatically re-allow the IPs after a certain time? At the moment I'm doing it with a json file in a ramdisk but that feels wrong and inefficient.


    Not going to say more about the website...

    Caddy?

    Well, I don't really want to switch the webserver... Thanks anyway!

    For now I'll go with the nginx limiting feature (have actually used it in the past I think), and if brute-forcing gets too much, maybe I'll simply disable IPv6 (sorry yoursunny).

    Thanked by 5Decicus admax host_c beanman109 plumberg
  • DecicusDecicus Member

    @lukast__ said: I'm not limited to anything at all, but I think a db is a bit overkill. But thanks!

    I agree, but reading/writing to a JSON file for every request (ramdisk or not) seems extremely cursed. :joy:

    Thanked by 1lukast__
  • beanman109beanman109 Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    @Decicus said:

    @lukast__ said: I'm not limited to anything at all, but I think a db is a bit overkill. But thanks!

    I agree, but reading/writing to a JSON file for every request (ramdisk or not) seems extremely cursed. :joy:

    get a USB and write only to that, more or less cursed, thoughts?

    Thanked by 5lukast__ Decicus plumberg host_c admax
  • DecicusDecicus Member

    @beanman109 said:

    @Decicus said:

    @lukast__ said: I'm not limited to anything at all, but I think a db is a bit overkill. But thanks!

    I agree, but reading/writing to a JSON file for every request (ramdisk or not) seems extremely cursed. :joy:

    get a USB and write only to that, more or less cursed, thoughts?

    RAID0 between a USB stick and MicroSD card for the speed boost

    Thanked by 2lukast__ beanman109
  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad

    @Decicus said:

    @lukast__ said: I'm not limited to anything at all, but I think a db is a bit overkill. But thanks!

    I agree, but reading/writing to a JSON file for every request (ramdisk or not) seems extremely cursed. :joy:

    Totally agree, that's why I asked.
    And the most efficient way does seem to be the nginx module because it doesn't even leave the webserver, and the PHP daemon isn't invoked.

    Thanked by 3beanman109 Decicus admax
  • beanman109beanman109 Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    i only run my database applications through something connected with USB 2.0 for maximum stability

    Thanked by 2Decicus lukast__
  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad
    edited February 2025

    :D :D :D

    This is gonna be funnnnnnn :D :D

    @lukast__ - <3 >:)

    This will pair excelent with this VPS, I apologize, it will not be Prod ready for this weekend :'(

    Yeah, I know, lame......

    Test            | Value

Single Core     | 2225
Multi Core      | 4012

    I need to come up with something for tomorrow.....

    Thanked by 11beanman109 lukast__ Decicus FAT32 plumberg truemagic gritty admax Blembim barbaros ariq01
  • FAT32FAT32 Administrator, Deal Compiler Extraordinaire

    @lukast__ said: Am already using it so will go with it. Doesn't seem to be able to handle IPv6 subnets though, but I'll ignore that for now as there's anyway no real way to determine whether IPs belong to a particular host because basically anyone can get a /40 or lower for cheap. Thanks!

    I found an interesting way to make use of map, can consider using it to extract only the first 8 bytes of $binary_remote_addr: https://stackoverflow.com/a/60477076

    (In the case of IPv6, $binary_remote_addr will be 16 bytes)

    Thanked by 5lukast__ host_c Decicus admax Blembim
  • DecicusDecicus Member
    edited February 2025

    @host_c said: it will not be Prod ready for this weekend

    It doesn't need to be "prod ready" for idling. As long as I can YABS it once and pay for it for the next 6 months without logging in ever, it's fine.

    Thanked by 3beanman109 lukast__ admax
  • beanman109beanman109 Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    @lukast__ gpt also said it can be done with php APCu whatever the fuck that is

    Thanked by 3lukast__ Decicus admax
  • FAT32FAT32 Administrator, Deal Compiler Extraordinaire

    @host_c said:

    :D :D :D

    This is gonna be funnnnnnn :D :D

    @lukast__ - <3 >:)

    This will pair excelent with this VPS, I apologize, it will not be Prod ready for this weekend :'(

    Yeah, I know, lame......

    Test            | Value

Single Core     | 2225
Multi Core      | 4012

    I need to come up with something for tomorrow.....

    WHERE DEALS

    Thanked by 5lukast__ beanman109 host_c Decicus admax
  • grittygritty Member

    @host_c said:

    :D :D :D

    This is gonna be funnnnnnn :D :D

    @lukast__ - <3 >:)

    This will pair excelent with this VPS, I apologize, it will not be Prod ready for this weekend :'(

    Yeah, I know, lame......

    Test            | Value

Single Core     | 2225
Multi Core      | 4012

    I need to come up with something for tomorrow.....

    have preorder deals? :p

    Thanked by 2host_c Decicus
  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad
    edited February 2025

    @Decicus said: It doesn't need to be "prod ready" for idling. As long as I can YABS it once and pay for it for the next 6 months, it's fine.

    :D :D :D

    RAM did not arrive on time for today Maitenance, so I will have to power it off next week.

    My conscious does not let me sell services that I will power off in a few days for maintenance. o:)

    Thanked by 4Decicus lukast__ admax ariq01
  • beanman109beanman109 Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    @host_c can you start offering SBC/rasp pi co-location plz

    Thanked by 5admax host_c Decicus plumberg lukast__
  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad

    @gritty said: have preorder deals? :p

    nahhhh, that's no fun, fun is when you pay it and get it in ~1 minute ( unless the provisioning module fucks up, then it is ~ 10 minutes :D )

    Thanked by 6lukast__ admax gritty Decicus Blembim beanman109
  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad

    @beanman109 said: @host_c can you start offering SBC/rasp pi co-location plz

    I can offer almost anything, as long as it is Rack Mountable, they do not let me SHELF the SHIT :'(

    Thanked by 6admax Decicus lukast__ Blembim FAT32 beanman109
  • DecicusDecicus Member

    @host_c said: My conscious does not let me sell services that I will power off in a few days for maintenance. o:)

    You don't have to sell the services, could always give them for free

    Thanked by 3beanman109 FAT32 plumberg
  • grittygritty Member
    edited February 2025

    @host_c said:

    @gritty said: have preorder deals? :p

    nahhhh, that's no fun, fun is when you pay it and get it in ~1 minute ( unless the provisioning module fucks up, then it is ~ 10 minutes :D )

    :p

  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad

    @Decicus said: You don't have to sell the services, could always give them for free

    :D :D :D

    Thanked by 7admax FAT32 Decicus Blembim gritty lukast__ beanman109
  • FAT32FAT32 Administrator, Deal Compiler Extraordinaire

    @host_c said:

    @gritty said: have preorder deals? :p

    nahhhh, that's no fun, fun is when you pay it and get it in ~1 minute ( unless the provisioning module fucks up, then it is ~ 10 minutes :D )

    Just so you know... the fun is actually seeing the coupon successfully applied and placing the order, not the provisioning part

    Thanked by 6admax Decicus Blembim lukast__ beanman109 plumberg
  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad

    @host_c said:

    @beanman109 said: @host_c can you start offering SBC/rasp pi co-location plz

    I can offer almost anything, as long as it is Rack Mountable, they do not let me SHELF the SHIT :'(

    I could do that in the smaller site we have, but that is only IPV6

    Thanked by 4admax Decicus lukast__ Blembim
  • raza19raza19 Veteran

    Thanked by 7FAT32 gritty Decicus admax host_c u104b230 Smigit
  • beanman109beanman109 Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad
    edited February 2025

    @host_c said:

    @beanman109 said: @host_c can you start offering SBC/rasp pi co-location plz

    I can offer almost anything, as long as it is Rack Mountable, they do not let me SHELF the SHIT :'(

    so what you're saying is i can colocate 5 of them instead?

    Thanked by 10lukast__ FAT32 admax Decicus host_c Blembim plumberg barbaros ariq01 sh97
  • FAT32FAT32 Administrator, Deal Compiler Extraordinaire

    @raza19 said:

    I take the rat on bottom left to be "FK32"

    Thanked by 5raza19 Decicus admax Blembim u104b230
  • u104b230u104b230 Member

    I think I smell a deal :D

    Thanked by 2FAT32 Decicus
  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad

    @FAT32 said: Just so you know... the fun is actually seeing the coupon successfully applied and placing the order, not the provisioning part

    So all I need is to sell applied cupons??? why the hack didn't you say so 2Yr back????

    Now he tells me, after spending $$$ on servers rather then just selling cupons.

    @fat32 <3 :* :D :D :D

    Thanked by 7admax FAT32 lukast__ Blembim u104b230 Decicus beanman109
  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad
    edited February 2025

    @beanman109 said: so what you're saying is i get colocate 5 of them instead?

    Yeah, that would not be a problem actually.

    Thanked by 5lukast__ beanman109 admax Decicus u104b230
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