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(need help) Move Windows VPS to Proxmox?
DeadlyChemist
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I have a awesome awesome VPS from hostbrr/labze
the problem is, i want backups (whole OS and all)
i made a ticket and as anwser i got
Unfortunately we cannot easily export the entire VM disk and allow clients to download this image. It is possible to backup the entire system from the VPS Dashboard and restore this on-demand but it will not be possible to get the backup yourself.
There are tools that exists that create full images but it is not anything I have experience with.
which is fair
anyways, do you guys have ideas how to backup the whole system (maybe boot to some OS and send via FTP?? no clue) then throw into proxmox locally, test/backup and put proxmox on hostbrr and import backup?
i have paid a bunch for licenses that are now part of my windows server 2022 installation, plus i have 1-3 users (me and someone else use it about 5-10h a day, other 2 rarely)
im not running away from hostbrr anytime soon, just want weekly backups
im clumsy and so is windows
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Hi there!
If you find suitable any KVM (Dedicated VPS) plan from our website, I can help you with the migration to us for free then include some weekly backups free of charge.
https://www.enginyring.com/en/virtual-servers
Alternatively, if you wanna stick with current provider, you could check Veeam or UrBackup. But it's only gonna create an OS-level image, not a server-level one.
Won't backing up the whole drive using dd and then restoring it onto a clean Proxmox VM running a liveISO work?
You might end up losing boot temporarily and if a Windows repair doesn't fix it, you could Grub it.
Anyways, you will have to redo the activation since hardware has changed.
Clonezilla (free) live cd to a sftp.
you could use veeam with veeam agent for windows server
I haven't used this before. Can it actually clone/ mirror the content to a different server?
it can take a full backup that you can then restore to another server and then also does full and differential backups. you can also restore on file level. it's very good, especially with windows.
veeam has a free tier but then is a little expensive but is worth the money IMO if looking for a fully buit backup and recovery solution. they also give NFR license if you have a .edu email and give them a valid excuse.
What do you mean by redo activation? I have:
Windows 2022
User Calls
Office suite (linked to acc)
How does the reactivation work?
Might be an idea tho
Might actually do this, should be easy and hostbrr should have an iso
I dont understand their pricing
What is NFR license? I dont have a .edu buuut i am a student and have tons of excuses
It doesn't make much sense imaging hosted Windows VPS. It's far faster and easier to just backup your application installers and the data to restore/import into a fully reinstalled Windows. You'll save space (gigs), time (hours to days) and hassle (no booting from custom recovery ISO) and be more flexible in recovery options. Not to mention more frequent backups.
NFR means not for resale. However, Veeam allow 10 for commercial use anyway, so long as it's for you or you're an employee rather than consultant charging another company for your time.
Proxmox + nested virt
Others have mentioned common approaches, but at Onidel, we offer complete data portability. With downloadable backups and snapshots (self-serve), you can easily transfer your VM to another provider—provided they support importing raw disk images.
I mean when hardware changes, Windows usually loses activation. In most cases you can reactivate using the wizard answering a few questions, but, in other cases, you might require activation through a telephonic conversation.
https://go.veeam.com/free-nfr-veeam-data-platform
Here you go...some info on that. Plus should find a backup solution/strategy either way if you don't currently have one.
Also just community version would work, I think
https://www.veeam.com/products/free/backup-recovery.html
sotrage i dont mind, 200-300gb isnt that much for me
i want to backup everything so the restore is easier plus keep my licenses
might send them an email regarding the license
sure, but how do i first make my current installation as a vm...
ah fuck, if i have to call them AGAIN i'll loose my shit
took me a week plus about 6h last time
will think about it
i really full backup
might try clonezilla and restore to a local VM without internet and see if i get bugged with activation crap
sounds great sadly im sure you can't match the offer i got from hostbrr/labze (unless you want to try, then feel free to DM!)
NFR version isn't for students or for production loads.
What licenses? How is it easier to restore? Just about everything is harder and longer.
That means you don't have the correct license (OEM likely) and not intended for moving to different hardware.
Of course you will. You don't seem to be very knowledgeable at all. How did you end up in charge of this?
I told them I am a student and got an NFR license (Which I use for lab and testing purposes). Thank you internet policeman, I will have to review the TOS next time.
needed something for my emails, documents and as general PC, adn because RDP does not work on linux i was stuck with windows server whichever
programs are easier to restore, appdata settings and whatnot
most likely, got this error when multiple people tried logging in
RDP works on Linux. Use XRDP.
Aren't you able to load a live Linux ISO in that VM, use that to gunzip and rsync a disk image, write it to wherever your Proxmox server is, extract it and import it?
Please, feel free to DM if you have further questions towards this approach and would like our help :-)
it does not fully, you cannot pre-enter passwords, it's apperantly a known issue and no fix for that.
last time i tried 2-3 years and had this issue
i'll try on my own first and try to back it up somehow
if i get stuck i'll reach out
thanks!
update to ya'll
first i migrated my racknerd VPS (NL) (150gb) (non critical) (about a week ago)
i created a another proxmox backup, deleted the old one (200gb, down to 60gb)
then i went to my NL server and installed proxmox on in and restored from backup (60gb) had to adjust some networking and everything works!
yesterday i went with the big boy (Hostbrr, DE, 300gb) (downtime is bad)
now i need to install proxmox on the hostbrr server and restore my vm and set some networking.... and possibly activate windows again (crying, i hate MS support)
so that's that
might one day write down this as tutorial probably as full video... how to backup/restore and put proxmox and hypervisor on top of any random VPS
would you be interested in full tutorial? chatgpt halucinated, forums are annoying and i feel like this is the SAFEST way to do it
oh and should any provider read this with owned hardware, need 4tb PBS server, but not yet
if you have offers, DM me, im looking at <1€/tb/m (if it's not obvious i mean HDD)
Should anyone be interested in a small HDD migration tool over netcat, feel free to use this tool: https://github.com/ENGINYRING/Automated-HDD-Migration-Tool
If you think of any improvements, feel free to (git) suggest it.
note: both donor and receiver machines should be in rescue mode, SSH installed and root access via pwd enabled.
sounds good, but tbh im more familiar with guis i guess
Just updated the script to allow resume transfer at certain offset if, from any reason, transfer stopped/was interrupted.
Should be a great help if network outage occurs.
Tested it on a dummy 15 GB VM, but I'd really like some feedback if there are people with idling VMs and wanna try it.