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Actually, I'd disagree about that. High priority is when you have an active important server go down unexpectedly and outside a scheduled maintenance window.
Provisioning a new machine isn't high priority, particularly if it's a brand new provider that you need to evaluate rather than push into service immediately. Not because it's not important to you, just that speeding you up in getting started shouldn't take priority over another customer who might actually have a genuinely high important issue.
From the main topic list:
https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/201696/clawcloud-special-new-year-offers-cloud-vps-1c1g-7-year-asia-europe-us/p1
Even if one agreed with your POV, multiple-days reaction time doesn't even match medium/standard prio.
That said, I'm confident that @CLAWCLOUD will soon much improve in that area.
$7 is a great price for the first year, @CLAWCLOUD
Could you please share the renewal price for the “cheap vps”?
Installing an OS could be a high priority or not, depending on the scenario.
If i am installing for the first time, then I can definitely wait. But if something is messed up and I need to reinstall the OS using the iso, then it may turn into a high priority.
I think ClawCloud's $7/year VPS offers great value for money, with good CPU performance and network experience. The 200mbps speed is sufficient for most needs. However, I hope ClawCloud can offer more features, such as custom images. It's also worth mentioning that they provide 30 days of free daily backups, and all of this costs only $7 per year.
This is the result of my test yabs:
Thu Jan 9 15:13:47 UTC 2025
Basic System Information:
Uptime : 0 days, 8 hours, 7 minutes
Processor : Intel(R) Xeon(R) Platinum
CPU cores : 1 @ 2500.000 MHz
AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
RAM : 923.8 MiB
Swap : 0.0 KiB
Disk : 19.6 GiB
Distro : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Kernel : 6.1.0-28-cloud-amd64
VM Type : KVM
IPv4/IPv6 : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
IPv6 Network Information:
ISP : Alibaba (US) Technology Co., Ltd.
ASN : AS45102 Alibaba (US) Technology Co., Ltd.
Host : Alibaba.com LLC
Location : Tokyo, Tokyo (13)
Country : Japan
fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vda1):
iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
Geekbench 4 Benchmark Test:
Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/18422797
You can find our offer posts and links on the offer page. Feel free to check them out!
Alibaba Cloud is one of our most critical suppliers, and we maintain a long-standing and deep supply chain collaboration with them.
@cjwbbs
Please drop your yabs elsewhere, not here!
Please stop calling that VPS offer as $7/year
It is $7 for the first year and $36/year starting second year.
Unless you want to keep the VPS for one year only.
=== Benchmark & review, round 2 - HongKong China-optimized vs normal cheapie ===
Of course, as soon as I saw @ClawCloud's China-optimized product/offer (certainly not only) I immediately wondered what kind of performance, as compared to a "normal" CC VPS, one could expect and whether - finally! - reasonable, maybe even good, connectivity to China really was achievable and at a * reasonable cost*.
So I did what a benchmarker does, I benchmarked both, a normal VPS and a China-optimized VPS at the same location, HongKong. In addition I also tested a normal VPS in Singapore which for many westerners is "the door into South East Asia" and also, it seems, quite well connected.
If you want and ask for it I can publish the full results of all 3 systems, but I think that that might be a bit much and therefore I focus on basic performance summaries plus, in particular, on the normal vs China optimized comparison.
Unless otherwise noted the systems have 1 a Xeon Platinum vCore, 1 GB memory, AES and hardware RNG enabled and nested virtualization disabled.
First the Singapore cheapie proc & mem.
Next the HK cheapie
Hmm same processor and memory the SGP cheapie is about 10% slower. Not really concerning but looking a bit weird albeit within half-way normal VPS spread.
Finally the HL-CO ("china optimized") VPS (2vCores, 4 GB)
Again like in my recent benchmark, at least single core performance lower than the cheapies and multi-core only about 10% above (the better cheapie's) single-core and just about 20% better than its own single-core.
IMO both cheapies clearly are the bang per buck winners in the processor & memory department ...
Now the disk 4k/4t performance in the same order
SGP cheapie
HK cheapie
HKCO
OK, here the considerably more expensive China-optimized VPS pulled ahead and the SGP cheapie is behind both HK VPS significantly. That said, pretty much anything north of say 2000 IOps is fine for a cheap VPS IMO.
Finally "THE" results. Do you really get significantly better China connectivity with the China optimized VPS? Is it really worth to swap dedicated cores for the (hopefully) better connectivity into China (because in my opinion that seems to be what it basically boils down to vs. the VDS promo)?
Note that for SGP I'll only mention significant differences between the SGP and the HK cheapies. Those are
Most of not southern Europe, just an example
from SGP
from HongKong
which, as more of a side note, IMO suggests that the routing is quite different for SGP and HK. My guess is that the packets from SGP enter via the Tata sea cable (Paris is significantly faster than Frankfurt which suggests the Europe is entered via Marseille (sea cable landing), while the HK systems shows the highest results for London and, suprisingly Romania *g)
On to the Americas
This time the HK system seems to be marginally faster. Again an example
from SGP
from HongKong, but all in all the difference isn't any significant (through all the tested locations, incl. Brasil btw).
So, how about Asia, in particular south and east Asia and Oceania. Again, if you want it, I'll publish the full results, but here I'll basically only TL;DR Singapore as "some locations better, some worse than from HK (cheapie) but all in all acceptable to decent", and instead show what probably most of you are interested in, HK (cheapie) vs HKCO.
Here you go, first the cheapie
and now the China optimized VPS
Front up: Yes, I admit it right away, I'm an uncultivated european "long-nose" and actually show only two real chinese targets. It's not that I didn't try to find more but I'm simply too clueless re. China (although I do like the Chinese) and failed to identify more good targets in China, so it's only the "boring two" most westerners know, Beijing and Shanghai (plus HongKong). I'm not guilty alone though: it's not exactly helpful to be confronted by chinese language - and glyphs! - only sites when looking for and checking targets ... Whatever, I'm sorry and tried to make up for it at least somewhat by having quite a few, albeit not chinese, Asian targets. Please feel free to suggest more chinese test targets, preferably either with a 100+ MB test file or an OS mirror!
So, what do we get?
Well, actually the cheapie often is somewhat better than the China optimized and more expensive VPS, modulo a few exceptions like e.g. the university server in Bangkok, Thailand. But not surprisingly all in all the Asia & Oceania connectivity is quite good from within Asia, duh g
One area though *did surprise me: both down unders, the big one and the small one. Besides the fact that the Melbourne Ozzyland completely failed from the HKCO system, my jaw dropped when I saw that the NZ Wellington university or institute target was much, much faster from both systems than the Ozzyland target from the cheapie which managed at least about 30 Mb/s from Melbourne. Maybe the Kiwis sinking on of their (few) warships was not really an accident but a silent and secret "let's overtake them Ozzies in terms of connectivity!" operation?
Finally, the "holy grail" of this benchmark: YES! the China optimized @ClawCloud VPS DID beat the cheapie - and even quite brutally. Bejing almost 400 Mb/s versus 40 Mb/s that is, basically 10 times faster with the China optimized system!
For the sake of fairness: Not that I personally care. I'm already very happy that even the cheapie reaches into China at all. For that alone I applaud ClawCloud. Achieving 400 Mb/s from a still decently priced VPS to me personally is a luxury I don't need - but for those who do need good connectivity into China: why the heck are you still here instead of clicking on "buy" in ClawCloud's web site??
Small UPDATE (thanks to @dev_vps and a few others): I wrote "cheapies" but actually those VPS are super-cheap only the first year. After than they are about 5 x the price - unless of course ClawCloud, who already has shown flexibility and agility multiple times, decides (or maybe already decided?) to make that price increase much easier to digest by lowering it so say 2 or 2.5 times the promo price.
Until then take me writing "cheapie" with a grain of salt.
I'd add to that with my unempirical handwaving, because I don't have any results to hand. I also don't have any targets in China, so all of my timings were done with ping.pe.
All of my pings from China to my HKG China Optimised were significantly better than from my HKG GreenCloud machine. Here are the China optimised ones - all under 50ms, except CT Jiangsu which was 100ms.
For comparison, this is HKG GreenCloud into China (albeit at a different day and time of day):
I had previously run ping.pe against Claw's LG for non-China optimised and it was pretty uniformly 40ms more than the China-optimised one but otherwise not bad.
I got the $7/y Tokyo non-China optimised one this morning. This actually had some really good speeds into some of China, but then 150ms-200ms for some networks. Still, better than I expected for non-China optimised. This also seems to be hosted on Aliyun even in Tokyo.
Across all both these machines, I got excellent pings to all of APAC, as you'd expect. With the bandwidth limitations though, I've now got a bit of a quandry as the pings are good, but I only want Chinese customers to use the limited bandwidth as I have much more plentiful bandwidth to APAC from GreenCloud and HostHatch.
Connections to the US from both machines was also reasonable, although Tokyo was by far the winner here by at least 40ms to US and 60ms to Canada. Compared to my HKG GreenCloud, the HKG Claw was about the same to the US and about 20ms slower to Canada.
Definitely agree with @jsg's assertion that Paris is better than the rest of Europe for Claw, something I hadn't picked up on (because I just saw a load of slow pings and ignored all of EMEA!). For me, Paris was about 10ms slower on Claw than GreenCloud, everywhere else in Europe 30ms+ more,
For what I want - China optimised, this really is a fantastic deal at this price. It's kind of a shame that their packages just increase number of cores and disk space and don't increase bandwidth until they start getting very pricey - 1TB on $4.2/m, 2TB on $20/m, 4TB on $48/m. However, they said elsewhere that they will reset bandwidth for the normal monthly price, so it'd be cheaper to stay on the cheap tariff and keep resetting it.
One good point is that the bandwidth only counts outgoing data, and there's unlimited incoming bandwidth. Not sure if that policy will change if it gets abused.
Hi! Can you tell me, please, which virtualization system is on this tariff?
openvz or other?
AFAIK KVM
What time does it start?
At what time does what start?
Invoice Id: #2235
machine id: #1550
Hint: you highly likely meant to put that in the ClawCloud promo thread. This here is the benchmark thread and I dont't care about your order and machine id.
Why the support is so bad?
Not sure if they still celebrating Xmas or CNY
Maybe some of you guys can help me out.
I purchased 16gig VDS and I trying to setup my site and I also trying to use runcloud too.
Problem is during the registration clawcloud did not asked about what is your Nameserver will be. So no NameServer is input during my registration.
So what I need to do if I don't have my Nameserves. Where can I input the domain name DNS...ns1 and ns2 at namechecp.
Can someone with this experience help me.
Can't wait for their support team, they still celebrating Xmas.
Thanks guys
clawcloud doesn't have DNS Service. So cant do it in there.
I don't have namecheap account. But you can check https://www.namecheap.com/domains/freedns/
Here is another free DNS Service
https://dns.he.net/