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  • barbarosbarbaros Member

    @beanman109 said:
    ODROID HC4 is so cute I might get one and slap a couple 14TB recertified's in it and create the worlds most unstable NAS

    If you need some feedback about disks just let me know and I can share what I read just dont want to paste wall of text. In any case you should check backblaze hdd report 2024 to see which disks has higher fail rates before deciding for one.

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  • admaxadmax Member, Megathread Squad

    @beanman109 said:
    ODROID HC4 is so cute I might get one and slap a couple 14TB recertified's in it and create the worlds most unstable NAS

    It looks like some sort of new TNT package. :joy:

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  • beanman109beanman109 Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    @barbaros said:

    @beanman109 said:
    ODROID HC4 is so cute I might get one and slap a couple 14TB recertified's in it and create the worlds most unstable NAS

    If you need some feedback about disks just let me know and I can share what I read just dont want to paste wall of text. In any case you should check backblaze hdd report 2024 to see which disks has higher fail rates before deciding for one.

    Yeah I normally check the backblaze reports most years anyway
    The Seagates look to be the best for recertified as they seem to show the most information from S.M.A.R.T data after going through the factory + seagate offers 5 year warranty on them if you buy from authorized resellers

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  • ralfralf Member

    @barbaros said:
    ... I can share what I read just dont want to paste wall of text.

    I'm never one to let that stop me! :D

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  • ManuelMManuelM Member

    @Caztiel said:

    @zGato said:

    @Anyson said:
    The 7.5€ and 9.5€ flash sale plan was so great! I stayed up late both nights to wait for a <10€ flash sale plan, but still missed them. Does anyone know when will Naranja's next flash sale be?

    He said he won't do more, but I have a €10/yr that I don't need no more (will replace for the €7.5/yr)
    specs

    If you want it, PM me, will sell at cost basically.

    Is transfer free?

    5€

  • r3kr3k Member

    @beanman109 said:
    ODROID HC4 is so cute I might get one and slap a couple 14TB recertified's in it and create the worlds most unstable NAS

    That looks way too easy to spill coffee or soda into.

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  • beanman109beanman109 Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    @r3k said:

    @beanman109 said:
    ODROID HC4 is so cute I might get one and slap a couple 14TB recertified's in it and create the worlds most unstable NAS

    That looks way too easy to spill coffee or soda into.

    custom enclosure

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  • barbarosbarbaros Member
    edited January 2025

    @beanman109 said:

    @r3k said:

    @beanman109 said:
    ODROID HC4 is so cute I might get one and slap a couple 14TB recertified's in it and create the worlds most unstable NAS

    That looks way too easy to spill coffee or soda into.

    custom enclosure

    Don't be a savage and put a hole on top of that box for some cooling.

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  • r3kr3k Member
    edited January 2025

    @beanman109 said:

    @r3k said:

    @beanman109 said:
    ODROID HC4 is so cute I might get one and slap a couple 14TB recertified's in it and create the worlds most unstable NAS

    That looks way too easy to spill coffee or soda into.

    custom enclosure

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  • _MS__MS_ Member
    edited January 2025

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  • admaxadmax Member, Megathread Squad

    @beanman109 said:

    @r3k said:

    @beanman109 said:
    ODROID HC4 is so cute I might get one and slap a couple 14TB recertified's in it and create the worlds most unstable NAS

    That looks way too easy to spill coffee or soda into.

    custom enclosure

    Correct, cardboard.

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  • _MS__MS_ Member

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  • ralfralf Member

    @beanman109 said:

    @plumberg69 said:

    @beanman109 said:
    anyone here have experience with factory re-certified HDD's?
    i watched that LTT video on them but i'm still unsure
    but at the same time $300 AUD for 14TB HDDs is so tempting
    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/175879197412

    I used a few refurbished ones a couple years ago for my friend. Still works like a champ. Ended up getting almost a like new disk.

    As long as it's manufacturer certified you are good to go.

    yeah from what I saw in the LTT video, a majority if not all the ones they bought had like less than 300 power on hours, but they also mentioned its very possible that they could've had the S.M.A.R.T stats reset at the factory

    Not seen this LTT video, but I know that most HDDs tend to fail very early in their life if they're going to, so 300 hours sounds about right for an early failure and then refurbish.

    If they last the first month, they'll almost certainly happily life out their rated service life and beyond without any issues at all.

    Older drives used to have the risk of seizing up if you left them powered off for a long time, but I've not heard of that happening for at least a decade. Last time I experienced it personally was late 90s.

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  • beanman109beanman109 Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    Okay scrap that - the ODROID HC4 petitboot bootloader looks fucked and I'm not dealing with that.

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  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @ralf said:

    @beanman109 said:

    @plumberg69 said:

    @beanman109 said:
    anyone here have experience with factory re-certified HDD's?
    i watched that LTT video on them but i'm still unsure
    but at the same time $300 AUD for 14TB HDDs is so tempting
    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/175879197412

    I used a few refurbished ones a couple years ago for my friend. Still works like a champ. Ended up getting almost a like new disk.

    As long as it's manufacturer certified you are good to go.

    yeah from what I saw in the LTT video, a majority if not all the ones they bought had like less than 300 power on hours, but they also mentioned its very possible that they could've had the S.M.A.R.T stats reset at the factory

    Not seen this LTT video, but I know that most HDDs tend to fail very early in their life if they're going to, so 300 hours sounds about right for an early failure and then refurbish.

    If they last the first month, they'll almost certainly happily life out their rated service life and beyond without any issues at all.

    Older drives used to have the risk of seizing up if you left them powered off for a long time, but I've not heard of that happening for at least a decade. Last time I experienced it personally was late 90s.

    Actually I think this makes decent sense. Never looked at it from that angle.
    But maybe my lock was good overall with the refurbished b4. Who knows.

    But spinners generally will be good. Atleast OVH ones do. I requested replacement considering 69k hours was more and was slapped with replacement of 80k hours. So

    Yeah there's that. They just chug along when they chug along.

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  • AnysonAnyson Member

    For hard disks, I know a populor solution is to buy two retired 12TB disks and form a RAID. Each disk sells at about 80€. The two hard disks will serve as backup for each other. They use this solution to store movies & tvs -- unimportant data. This is much cheaper than second-hand hard disk.

    Another solution is to buy oem disks. It's brand new and with warranty. The price is about 50€ for a seagate 4TB. I just bought one in September.

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  • beanman109beanman109 Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    I found a LowEnder in the wild on reddit

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  • nohavpsnohavps Member, Host Rep

    Dedicated servers available on select days from $35/month (is coming... :) )

    Intel Xeon E3-1240v5
4 cores, 8 threads
1 IPv4 - /64 IPv6
32 GB DDR4
Linux or Windows
480 GB SSD
Full Root Access
30 TB / 1 GBPS
Dallas, TX (USA)
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  • MMMMMMMMMMMM Member

    @ralf said:

    WALL OF TEXT WARNING

    Yeah, I'm similar. The load on my servers is loooooooow but I still have multiple load balancers and multiple backends. And it's just just about trying to cope and justify buying a load of unnecessary servers!

    Even in the simplest example, a load-balancer from a different provider can act as a sacrificial offering if you ever accidentally get hit by a false DMCA takedown or you accidentally violated the ToS - e.g. if you have any user-generated content, your provider could get angry about hate speech, or images that contravene their policies, or whatever. Having your real server behind a load-balancer that only talks to it via wireguard means that if your service ever was pulled, you can get another front-end and set it up with almost zero effort and point it at your real server.

    You can also have multiple copies of your web server in different geographic areas. Each of your haproxies (if you have multiple) can point to the closest one but fall back to another if it goes down. If you have multiple haproxies, you can round robin them using DNS, again guarding you against a failure of any of your instances.

    You can improve the overall security of your system by locking down each of these things. So for instance, I'm not expecting haproxy to have any vulnerabilities, but even if one is found, all that does is allow someone to mitm my web traffic. That's bad, but it's better than that plus a load more. If there's a vulnerability in my web server, similarly there's more protection, because I run my web servers inside a VM, which are restricted by firewall rules on the host to not allow outgoing traffic other than DB access and only allowes incoming access from the haproxy. So, it should be very difficult even if the attacker manages RCE to download a useful payload or exfiltrate data to explore the system further. Similarly, the DBs are locked down again so only the web-servers can access them.

    You read my thoughts! I used tailscale, close all port but allow incoming from tailscale0, with SSH keys and changed port of course (seems overkill or paranoid maybe). The only open port to the internet is the haproxy VPS at 443. I'm not using round robin DNS. But, I keep a separate haproxy VPS (diff provider) on bench for replacement. I use bash with cronjob to update A record on CF when the main haproxy VPS is down. I put domains to CF for easy DNS management with API and WAF rules.

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  • beanman109beanman109 Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    @nohavps said:
    Dedicated servers available on select days from $35/month (is coming... :) )

    Intel Xeon E3-1240v5
4 cores, 8 threads
1 IPv4 - /64 IPv6
32 GB DDR4
Linux or Windows
480 GB SSD
Full Root Access
30 TB / 1 GBPS
Dallas, TX (USA)

    best i can do is $100 a year

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  • admaxadmax Member, Megathread Squad

    Security is maxed out.

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  • nohavpsnohavps Member, Host Rep

    @beanman109 said:

    @nohavps said:
    Dedicated servers available on select days from $35/month (is coming... :) )

    Intel Xeon E3-1240v5
4 cores, 8 threads
1 IPv4 - /64 IPv6
32 GB DDR4
Linux or Windows
480 GB SSD
Full Root Access
30 TB / 1 GBPS
Dallas, TX (USA)

    best i can do is $100 a year

    Many features will be included in our new line of dedicated servers, automatic activations in less than 5 minutes. ;)

    1

    2

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  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @admax said:
    Congratulations to @Saragoldfarb for finally getting Pi! :joy:

    $20/year for worthless paperweights.

    @admax said:

    @donli said:

    @yoursunny said:
    Raspberry 3B+ is worthless now.
    We have two in the office as paperweights.

    Well they are worthless because they aren't powered on connected to the Internet with an IPv4 address.

    It requires a dedicated IPv4 and IPv6 segment, along with unlimited bandwidth!

    We have IPv4 /24 and 100 Gbps connection in the lab.
    However, the 3B+ doesn't have QSFP ports.

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  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    Can get those specs at fiberstate with bigger disk for $34,95/m

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  • _MS__MS_ Member

    @nohavps said:

    @beanman109 said:

    @nohavps said:
    Dedicated servers available on select days from $35/month (is coming... :) )

    Intel Xeon E3-1240v5
4 cores, 8 threads
1 IPv4 - /64 IPv6
32 GB DDR4
Linux or Windows
480 GB SSD
Full Root Access
30 TB / 1 GBPS
Dallas, TX (USA)

    best i can do is $100 a year

    Many features will be included in our new line of dedicated servers, automatic activations in less than 5 minutes. ;)

    1

    2

    Create $3/year deals on this dedi.

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  • beanman109beanman109 Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    @yoursunny said:

    @admax said:
    Congratulations to @Saragoldfarb for finally getting Pi! :joy:

    $20/year for worthless paperweights.

    @admax said:

    @donli said:

    @yoursunny said:
    Raspberry 3B+ is worthless now.
    We have two in the office as paperweights.

    Well they are worthless because they aren't powered on connected to the Internet with an IPv4 address.

    It requires a dedicated IPv4 and IPv6 segment, along with unlimited bandwidth!

    We have IPv4 /24 and 100 Gbps connection in the lab.
    However, the 3B+ doesn't have QSFP ports.

    I'll take the 3Bs since you think they're worthless, can always use more GPS NTP servers

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  • admaxadmax Member, Megathread Squad
    edited January 2025

    @yoursunny said:

    @admax said:
    Congratulations to @Saragoldfarb for finally getting Pi! :joy:

    $20/year for worthless paperweights.

    @admax said:

    @donli said:

    @yoursunny said:
    Raspberry 3B+ is worthless now.
    We have two in the office as paperweights.

    Well they are worthless because they aren't powered on connected to the Internet with an IPv4 address.

    It requires a dedicated IPv4 and IPv6 segment, along with unlimited bandwidth!

    We have IPv4 /24 and 100 Gbps connection in the lab.
    However, the 3B+ doesn't have QSFP ports.

    Has the Raspberry Pi 5 been designed with the consideration to support the installation of a QSFP module?

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  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @Saragoldfarb said:
    Can get those specs at fiberstate with bigger disk for $34,95/m

    Or free for a year.

    Thanks for not blinding us today.

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  • beanman109beanman109 Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    @admax said:

    @yoursunny said:

    @admax said:
    Congratulations to @Saragoldfarb for finally getting Pi! :joy:

    $20/year for worthless paperweights.

    @admax said:

    @donli said:

    @yoursunny said:
    Raspberry 3B+ is worthless now.
    We have two in the office as paperweights.

    Well they are worthless because they aren't powered on connected to the Internet with an IPv4 address.

    It requires a dedicated IPv4 and IPv6 segment, along with unlimited bandwidth!

    We have IPv4 /24 and 100 Gbps connection in the lab.
    However, the 3B+ doesn't have QSFP ports.

    Has the Raspberry Pi 5 been designed with the consideration to support the installation of a QSFP module?

    Raspberry Pi 5 cannot because it is saving for MRI for shoulder injury

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  • donlidonli Member

    @yoursunny said:

    We have IPv4 /24 and 100 Gbps connection in the lab.
    However, the 3B+ doesn't have QSFP ports.

    A problem for those stuck QSFP-only I guess.

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