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U.S. Treasury says its computers were hacked by a Chinese 'threat actor' in a 'major incident'

The "threat actor" was able to access the workstations via a compromised third-party cybersecurity service provider called BeyondTrust, the department said.

The U.S. Treasury Department said a state-sponsored Chinese hacking operation was able to use third-party software to tap into desktop computers of Treasury employees in what the department is calling "a major incident."

In a letter seen by NBC News, Aditi Hardikar, assistant secretary for management of the U.S. Department of the Treasury, wrote that ...

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/us-treasury-says-computers-hacked-chinese-threat-actor-rcna185809

Comments

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    These so called breaches are becoming more common...

    It amazes how easy it may be to infiltrate any company.

    How many places they let their guard down so that the third party service could get in unchecked

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    I think anyone who knows how to access a hidden backdoor in American chips can do it. There have been rumors about such backdoors for a long time. Perhaps the Chinese have just decided to use them.

    Thanked by 1Chuck
  • eh, its only going to become more and more frequent that this stuff comes up. Need to figure out better ways to just lock down the most important bits, maybe keeping them offline or purely private? transfer data via screen reader or something. Idk what.

  • darkimmortaldarkimmortal Member
    edited December 2024

    Between this and clownstrike, hopefully this is the end of enshittified company workstations bogged down with multiple agents hooking into everything

  • Time for a comprehensive @vitobotta audit of their systems.

  • @rustelekom said:
    I think anyone who knows how to access a hidden backdoor in American chips can do it. There have been rumors about such backdoors for a long time. Perhaps the Chinese have just decided to use them.

    It says it came from software. Put down the propaganda Kool-Aid for a moment as you're not doing any fucking reading before vomiting your bullshit.

    The method isn't the issue, it's the fact that it's State sponsored. That's the fucking news.

    Thanked by 2Tony40 10thHouse
  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @TimboJones said:

    @rustelekom said:
    I think anyone who knows how to access a hidden backdoor in American chips can do it. There have been rumors about such backdoors for a long time. Perhaps the Chinese have just decided to use them.

    It says it came from software. Put down the propaganda Kool-Aid for a moment as you're not doing any fucking reading before vomiting your bullshit.

    The method isn't the issue, it's the fact that it's State sponsored. That's the fucking news.

    You can't be 100% sure what happened. Maybe the software at the start, if the hacker didn't have direct access to the hardware. Maybe social engineering was used first to inject some malicious software and then get admin access to the equipment management software. Then advanced hackers could inject malicious code into the hardware's firmware, spread hidden modules over the local network, and whatnot. That's why access to external networks is often cut off right away.

    Attacks sponsored by countries (like for example the US or UK) have been going on for years, so it's nothing new. Right now, the US is trying to make China look like the enemy and blame everything on them (sorry, I forgot about Russia and North Korea). Spy wars have been known since ancient times.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    "The method isn't the issue, it's the fact that it's State sponsored. That's the fucking news."

    Nope, that's not a fact, that's merely what some clueless talking head announced.

    The real joke is how shooting-from-the-hip those goons "report" politically convenient BS. The real FACT is that attribution ("who did it?") is known to be a very hard problem which, to make matters even worse, in addition is quite easy to make look like a perpetrator wants.

    Example: do it at certain times and such "suggest" that it's "the Chinese", "the Russians" or, for a funny change, "the Brits" (due to typical working hours). Or, even simpler and quite typical, throw some ascii (or UTF8) strings into the binary say, with some words in [language of choice] to "suggest" it was the [speakers of that language].

    My explanation is this (my corrected version):

    clueless gov goon skipped a few words. The true news actually are:
    The "threat actor" was able to access the workstations via a compromised third-party cybersecurity service provider called Idiots beyond trust and sane mind, the department (should have honestly said).

    Followed by the announcement

    our systems are 114% secure, but those evil-doers mercilessly abuse our trust-based security policy

    with a confidential info-leaflet printed in 3 pt comic sans in light grey on white peaking out of his pocket which says

    "definition of trust-based security: let's not burden ourselves with procedures most of us can't even pronounce. Just trust in 'it'll be fine, don't worry.'"

  • What are the hackers in the US doing? Travelling to China? :D

  • @boot said:
    Time for a comprehensive @vitobotta audit of their systems.

    LOL

  • But TreasuryDirect is protected by a janky on-screen keyboard so you can't type your password on the keyboard. Surely this kept them super-secure!

    Thanked by 1jsg
  • wadhahwadhah Member, Host Rep

    @TimboJones said:

    @rustelekom said:
    I think anyone who knows how to access a hidden backdoor in American chips can do it. There have been rumors about such backdoors for a long time. Perhaps the Chinese have just decided to use them.

    It says it came from software. Put down the propaganda Kool-Aid for a moment as you're not doing any fucking reading before vomiting your bullshit.

    The method isn't the issue, it's the fact that it's State sponsored. That's the fucking news.

    You need to chill mate.

    Also, if I had access to compromised hardware access, I would do literally everything in my power to make it seem like it is anything but compromised hardware. And that is not that hard to do.

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    There is no such thing as security these days.

    Thanked by 1jsg
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    “The {Chinese,Russians} hacked us and put all of this evidence of illegal activity in our email box!” - US government employees, probably

    Thanked by 3jsg r3k lukast__
  • The information accessed by the “threat actor” included unclassified documents, according to the letter.

    The attacker hasn't got anything classified? Pity.

  • @wadhah said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @rustelekom said:
    I think anyone who knows how to access a hidden backdoor in American chips can do it. There have been rumors about such backdoors for a long time. Perhaps the Chinese have just decided to use them.

    It says it came from software. Put down the propaganda Kool-Aid for a moment as you're not doing any fucking reading before vomiting your bullshit.

    The method isn't the issue, it's the fact that it's State sponsored. That's the fucking news.

    You need to chill mate.

    Fuck off. If you want to be another Russian cock holster, go right ahead.

    Also, if I had access to compromised hardware access, I would do literally everything in my power to make it seem like it is anything but compromised hardware. And that is not that hard to do.

    What? Never mind. I won't bother trying to understand wtf you're saying.

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @TimboJones said:
    What? Never mind. I won't bother trying to understand wtf you're saying.

    If you do not want to learn the basics of IT security, that is your own problem. But when you attack someone just because they are trying to be objective, it becomes a problem for everyone.

    Thanked by 1dsbnoob
  • @rustelekom said:

    @TimboJones said:
    What? Never mind. I won't bother trying to understand wtf you're saying.

    If you do not want to learn the basics of IT security, that is your own problem. But when you attack someone just because they are trying to be objective, it becomes a problem for everyone.

    That's not being objective, that's ignoring the topic and hijacking it for unknown purposes. Stop being obtuse.

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @TimboJones said:
    That's not being objective, that's ignoring the topic and hijacking it for unknown purposes. Stop being obtuse.

    In such a case, you also hijacked the topic, because there was talk about China and nothing at all about Russia.

  • This is just the Biden admin doing some creative book keeping... convenient timing.

  • What lies beyond trust?
    breach.

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