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  • @Clouvider said:

    @muffin said:
    Bunch of miscommunication it seems. I might be missing something, but I still don’t understand why @Clouvider keeps insisting that OP received free service - didn’t he clearly pay for it, very recently, until next year?

    As per the notice, service is free from the moment the notice was issued until 15/01/2025.

    The notice has been very clear.

    Ahh, I see. So OP is entitled to a prorated refund of 11 months I assume? But he did already pay in advance for 1 year - wouldn’t it make sense for him to wonder and ask when he would be able to expect a refund, and get a response within 10-14 days (which is long enough)?

    After all, he still had to, just after a month of his renewal, find another host and pay upfront for another service, when the money is still in your hands. The ‘free service’ is already worthless the moment he had to go out of his way to get a replacement, and finished transferring data.

  • @uhu said:

    @Clouvider said:
    The OP has been enjoying a free service,

    Just to mirror this back at you.

    I can't work out if you are not reading what people are telling you, or just don't understand, so I'll type this slowly...

    I can't work out if you are not reading what people are telling you, or just don't understand, so I'll type this slowly...

    The customer paid for the service. Paid in advance. The service is therefore NOT free, until they receive a refund. A refund they asked for and were then ignored on.

    The customer was informed both that they would be getting a pro-rata'd refund (no timescale given) and that effective from "now" it would be free until the cancellation date. There was no need to ask for a refund, they were already told they were getting one.

    Their paid service had come to an end, and was replace with a free service and a promise of a refund for the paid service.

    The customer was also informed that response times to tickets would likely be much slower than normal due to anticipation additional support requests. One man's "being ignored" is another man's "you haven't been replied to yet".

    Thanked by 1Clouvider
  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @muffin said:

    @Clouvider said:

    @muffin said:
    Bunch of miscommunication it seems. I might be missing something, but I still don’t understand why @Clouvider keeps insisting that OP received free service - didn’t he clearly pay for it, very recently, until next year?

    As per the notice, service is free from the moment the notice was issued until 15/01/2025.

    The notice has been very clear.

    Ahh, I see. So OP is entitled to a prorated refund of 11 months I assume? But he did already pay in advance for 1 year - wouldn’t it make sense for him to wonder and ask when he would be able to expect a refund, and get a response within 10-14 days (which is long enough)?

    After all, he still had to, just after a month of his renewal, find another host and pay upfront for another service, when the money is still in your hands. The ‘free service’ is already worthless the moment he had to go out of his way to get a replacement, and finished transferring data.

    Common sense. I like!

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • @Clouvider said:

    @uhu said:

    @Clouvider said:
    The OP has been enjoying a free service,

    I can't work out if you are not reading what people are telling you, or just don't understand, so I'll type this slowly...

    The customer paid for the service. Paid in advance. The service is therefore NOT free, until they receive a refund. A refund they asked for and were then ignored on.

    The service is free from 12/11/2024 until 15/01/2025. We do not treat Customers that paid and didn’t pay differently.

    Right, you genuinely don't understand, do you? Put yourself in their shoes for a moment.

    They've paid you, you've pulled the rug from underneath them, you then tell them they are using a "free service".

    Being the owner of least shitty provider that is shutting down doesn't make you a good guy.

    Thanked by 2Saragoldfarb samm
  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @Clouvider said:

    @jsg said:

    Most of that sounds nice and well and fitting the positive image of Clouvider I had so far (and hope stays alive and valid), but

    • it's not customer's / @Nelgin's fault if a rookie staff member fucks up
    • unless Nelgin is grossly spreading lies, you did NOT react properly (in style and time) but left him feeling ignored (not baselessly it seems)
    • your logic that a free service can not be cancelled is plain wrong.
    • customer just recently had paid for a year in advance iirc. That makes a big difference. In my case for example I had paid, also yearly in advance, maybe 5 months or so ago. Had I just recently paid only to learn a few weeks later that you'll stop my service I as well might have been pissed off and completely cancel everything, 1 month or two of free service or not.

    From what I see, your side fucked up, be it a rookie and/or be it being a bit overwhelmed or whatever, the result is that you fucked up.
    But maybe you really did not ignore him. If so, please provide a time-line from your POV and evidence. Without that it's very very hard to believe that a former customer who was happy and content for years suddenly turn hostile and publicly spreads lies about you.

    Also, as you might have seen in between the lines, I do see that that whole InceptionHosting thing might be a bit much for you and your team (in terms of small detail stuff) and may have come a bit surprising for you too. As a result, no matter how hard you tried to do everything fair and well, even generous, you occasionally fucked up, that's normal.
    But you also need to see and understand that Nelgin also is "only human" and felt badly enough treated and ignored to start a dispute and this thread.

    My main question is: are you fair and decent enough to not put him one "black lists" like FraudRecord, or are you not and stubborn?

    With all due respect but you are not entitled to this information.

    The way this thing evolved so far, one of you will "win" - but at ugly costs and wounded in one way or another. So, I suggest you (as the stronger party) rethink your approach and offer a fair solution.

    The OP can close the chargeback and process via a normal manner, we will then not charge any fees to the OP. If the OP continues and we win - the OP will receive a refund minus the fees. It’s up to the OP. Inception continues to provide service until this very day.

    The notice the OP has received was clear, precise, and with the best intentions possible.

    The OP was clearly informed his service is free from the time the notice was issued by Inception until 15/01/2025.

    TL;DR: We will continue this private war to the end plus a - quite politely worded - "fuck you!"

    My reaction: you putting @Nelgin on any kind of blacklist == Clouvider blacklisted (certainly not only by myself) and congrats for your ability to drive fans sour.

    Have nice Xmas days.

  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Patron Provider

    @Saragoldfarb said:
    You're an UK business right? Did you seriously just state that?

    Inception Hosting is in a process of originally shutdown after issuing notice of ceasing operations.> @muffin said:

    @Clouvider said:

    @muffin said:
    Bunch of miscommunication it seems. I might be missing something, but I still don’t understand why @Clouvider keeps insisting that OP received free service - didn’t he clearly pay for it, very recently, until next year?

    As per the notice, service is free from the moment the notice was issued until 15/01/2025.

    The notice has been very clear.

    Ahh, I see. So OP is entitled to a prorated refund of 11 months I assume? But he did already pay in advance for 1 year - wouldn’t it make sense for him to wonder and ask when he would be able to expect a refund, and get a response within 10-14 days (which is long enough)?

    After all, he still had to, just after a month of his renewal, find another host and pay upfront for another service, when the money is still in your hands. The ‘free service’ is already worthless the moment he had to go out of his way to get a replacement, and finished transferring data.

    The OP has been provided with a notice and will be provided with a refund. Inception is really sorry they cannot continue their services but as you can see, an honest and honourable way of shutting down the business - with refunding Customers has been chosen with a free service provided for a prolonged period of time and care taken to provide notice as soon as possible before the Black Friday.

    Thanked by 2Saragoldfarb muffin
  • @ralf said: and a promise of a refund

    A "promise" from a company that is shutting down. Yeah, you'd trust them. I wouldn't.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited December 2024

    @Clouvider said:

    @JabJab said:
    JFC @Clouvider just say "sorry, we will clarify the situation in next e-mail reminder" and manually calculate the refund and just issue it.

    You wasted much more time trying to convince everyone that you are right (yes and no) rather than just close this topic within 3 minutes of work.

    Absolutely not. Allowing the OPs public intimidation to expedite a refund ahead of everyone else that patiently waited is definitely not the way to go and not fair to thousands of other Customers.

    What a smelly pile of BS!

    Unless I'm very mistaken, OP was not at all about "expedite a refund ahead of everyone else that patiently waited" but rather about being ignored for weeks!

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Patron Provider

    @uhu said:

    @ralf said: and a promise of a refund

    A "promise" from a company that is shutting down. Yeah, you'd trust them. I wouldn't.

    OP will be well within the dispute period for the Q1 and most of Q2 2025; Clouvider is guaranteeing Inception’s refunds.

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • @jsg said:

    @Clouvider said:

    @jsg said:

    Most of that sounds nice and well and fitting the positive image of Clouvider I had so far (and hope stays alive and valid), but

    • it's not customer's / @Nelgin's fault if a rookie staff member fucks up
    • unless Nelgin is grossly spreading lies, you did NOT react properly (in style and time) but left him feeling ignored (not baselessly it seems)
    • your logic that a free service can not be cancelled is plain wrong.
    • customer just recently had paid for a year in advance iirc. That makes a big difference. In my case for example I had paid, also yearly in advance, maybe 5 months or so ago. Had I just recently paid only to learn a few weeks later that you'll stop my service I as well might have been pissed off and completely cancel everything, 1 month or two of free service or not.

    From what I see, your side fucked up, be it a rookie and/or be it being a bit overwhelmed or whatever, the result is that you fucked up.
    But maybe you really did not ignore him. If so, please provide a time-line from your POV and evidence. Without that it's very very hard to believe that a former customer who was happy and content for years suddenly turn hostile and publicly spreads lies about you.

    Also, as you might have seen in between the lines, I do see that that whole InceptionHosting thing might be a bit much for you and your team (in terms of small detail stuff) and may have come a bit surprising for you too. As a result, no matter how hard you tried to do everything fair and well, even generous, you occasionally fucked up, that's normal.
    But you also need to see and understand that Nelgin also is "only human" and felt badly enough treated and ignored to start a dispute and this thread.

    My main question is: are you fair and decent enough to not put him one "black lists" like FraudRecord, or are you not and stubborn?

    With all due respect but you are not entitled to this information.

    The way this thing evolved so far, one of you will "win" - but at ugly costs and wounded in one way or another. So, I suggest you (as the stronger party) rethink your approach and offer a fair solution.

    The OP can close the chargeback and process via a normal manner, we will then not charge any fees to the OP. If the OP continues and we win - the OP will receive a refund minus the fees. It’s up to the OP. Inception continues to provide service until this very day.

    The notice the OP has received was clear, precise, and with the best intentions possible.

    The OP was clearly informed his service is free from the time the notice was issued by Inception until 15/01/2025.

    TL;DR: We will continue this private war to the end plus a - quite politely worded - "fuck you!"

    My reaction: you putting @Nelgin on any kind of blacklist == Clouvider blacklisted (certainly not only by myself) and congrats for your ability to drive fans sour.

    Have nice Xmas days.

    You did say yourself that you don't have services with Clouvider due to them being expensive, compared to inception, and you're not planning on getting one.

    So you adding them to your shitlist is fairly inconsequential.

    I'd still buy the shit out of any double bandwidth VPS that they would have :-)

  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Patron Provider

    @jsg said:

    @Clouvider said:

    @jsg said:

    Most of that sounds nice and well and fitting the positive image of Clouvider I had so far (and hope stays alive and valid), but

    • it's not customer's / @Nelgin's fault if a rookie staff member fucks up
    • unless Nelgin is grossly spreading lies, you did NOT react properly (in style and time) but left him feeling ignored (not baselessly it seems)
    • your logic that a free service can not be cancelled is plain wrong.
    • customer just recently had paid for a year in advance iirc. That makes a big difference. In my case for example I had paid, also yearly in advance, maybe 5 months or so ago. Had I just recently paid only to learn a few weeks later that you'll stop my service I as well might have been pissed off and completely cancel everything, 1 month or two of free service or not.

    From what I see, your side fucked up, be it a rookie and/or be it being a bit overwhelmed or whatever, the result is that you fucked up.
    But maybe you really did not ignore him. If so, please provide a time-line from your POV and evidence. Without that it's very very hard to believe that a former customer who was happy and content for years suddenly turn hostile and publicly spreads lies about you.

    Also, as you might have seen in between the lines, I do see that that whole InceptionHosting thing might be a bit much for you and your team (in terms of small detail stuff) and may have come a bit surprising for you too. As a result, no matter how hard you tried to do everything fair and well, even generous, you occasionally fucked up, that's normal.
    But you also need to see and understand that Nelgin also is "only human" and felt badly enough treated and ignored to start a dispute and this thread.

    My main question is: are you fair and decent enough to not put him one "black lists" like FraudRecord, or are you not and stubborn?

    With all due respect but you are not entitled to this information.

    The way this thing evolved so far, one of you will "win" - but at ugly costs and wounded in one way or another. So, I suggest you (as the stronger party) rethink your approach and offer a fair solution.

    The OP can close the chargeback and process via a normal manner, we will then not charge any fees to the OP. If the OP continues and we win - the OP will receive a refund minus the fees. It’s up to the OP. Inception continues to provide service until this very day.

    The notice the OP has received was clear, precise, and with the best intentions possible.

    The OP was clearly informed his service is free from the time the notice was issued by Inception until 15/01/2025.

    TL;DR: We will continue this private war to the end plus a - quite politely worded - "fuck you!"

    My reaction: you putting @Nelgin on any kind of blacklist == Clouvider blacklisted (certainly not only by myself) and congrats for your ability to drive fans sour.

    Have nice Xmas days.

    There’s no private war - the OP can do the right thing and be refunded along everyone else, it’s OP choice. Inception will follow a standard process in line with the contract and treat the OP equally with other Customers.

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • uhuuhu Member
    edited December 2024

    @Clouvider said:

    @uhu said:

    @ralf said: and a promise of a refund

    A "promise" from a company that is shutting down. Yeah, you'd trust them. I wouldn't.

    OP will be well within the dispute period for the Q1 and most of Q2 2025; Clouvider is guaranteeing Inception’s refunds.

    But as you've clearly demonstrated in this thread, you can't be trusted. You will happily gaslight as much as necessary to make everything the customer's fault.

  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Patron Provider

    @jsg said:

    @Clouvider said:

    @JabJab said:
    JFC @Clouvider just say "sorry, we will clarify the situation in next e-mail reminder" and manually calculate the refund and just issue it.

    You wasted much more time trying to convince everyone that you are right (yes and no) rather than just close this topic within 3 minutes of work.

    Absolutely not. Allowing the OPs public intimidation to expedite a refund ahead of everyone else that patiently waited is definitely not the way to go and not fair to thousands of other Customers.

    What a smelly pile of BS!

    Unless I'm very mistaken, OP was not at all about "expedite a refund ahead of everyone else that patiently waited" but rather about being ignored for weeks!

    Answer to the OP query was provided in the original message.

    Inception is a company in the process of shutting down. It’s expected the responses will take some time. Refunds will be provided ahead of the time of shutdown.

    Inception is providing free services from 12/11/2024 until 15/01/2025 to all current Customer at no cost to them.

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @jsg said:

    Unless I'm very mistaken, OP was not at all about "expedite a refund ahead of everyone else that patiently waited" but rather about being ignored for weeks!

    Ignored for 2 weeks.

    FTFY

  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Patron Provider
    edited December 2024

    @uhu said:

    @Clouvider said:

    @uhu said:

    @ralf said: and a promise of a refund

    A "promise" from a company that is shutting down. Yeah, you'd trust them. I wouldn't.

    OP will be well within the dispute period for the Q1 and most of Q2 2025; Clouvider is guaranteeing Inception’s refunds.

    But as you've clearly demonstrated in this thread, you can't be trusted. You will happily gaslight as much as necessary to make everything the customer's fault.

    Ars you Inception Customer?
    If not, Inception doesn’t need your trust. It has trust of over a thousand existing Customers that it has been provided services faithfully for many years.

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @plumberg said:

    @jsg said:

    Unless I'm very mistaken, OP was not at all about "expedite a refund ahead of everyone else that patiently waited" but rather about being ignored for weeks!

    Ignored for 2 weeks.

    FTFY

    Yeah bit he states ignoring clients for 30 days is perfectly fine... I mean c'mon now.

    I have no beef in this fight, albeit a clouvider customer, but that's just batshit insane innit?

    Thanked by 1samm
  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @Clouvider said:

    @uhu said:

    @Clouvider said:

    @uhu said:

    @ralf said: and a promise of a refund

    A "promise" from a company that is shutting down. Yeah, you'd trust them. I wouldn't.

    OP will be well within the dispute period for the Q1 and most of Q2 2025; Clouvider is guaranteeing Inception’s refunds.

    But as you've clearly demonstrated in this thread, you can't be trusted. You will happily gaslight as much as necessary to make everything the customer's fault.

    Ars you Inception Customer?

    Best part, he is NOT.

  • bullfight9902bullfight9902 Member
    edited December 2024

    @Clouvider said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:
    "any case, if you send a complaint to somebody, it would not be unreasonable to give up to 30 days for a response."

    Wtf?

    Certainly. Give it a try in a real life.

    i read the whole thread, my eyes hurts..., took a long time...
    Main issue = ticket not answered in time, thats it

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @Clouvider said:

    @jsg said:

    @Clouvider said:

    @jsg said:

    Most of that sounds nice and well and fitting the positive image of Clouvider I had so far (and hope stays alive and valid), but

    • it's not customer's / @Nelgin's fault if a rookie staff member fucks up
    • unless Nelgin is grossly spreading lies, you did NOT react properly (in style and time) but left him feeling ignored (not baselessly it seems)
    • your logic that a free service can not be cancelled is plain wrong.
    • customer just recently had paid for a year in advance iirc. That makes a big difference. In my case for example I had paid, also yearly in advance, maybe 5 months or so ago. Had I just recently paid only to learn a few weeks later that you'll stop my service I as well might have been pissed off and completely cancel everything, 1 month or two of free service or not.

    From what I see, your side fucked up, be it a rookie and/or be it being a bit overwhelmed or whatever, the result is that you fucked up.
    But maybe you really did not ignore him. If so, please provide a time-line from your POV and evidence. Without that it's very very hard to believe that a former customer who was happy and content for years suddenly turn hostile and publicly spreads lies about you.

    Also, as you might have seen in between the lines, I do see that that whole InceptionHosting thing might be a bit much for you and your team (in terms of small detail stuff) and may have come a bit surprising for you too. As a result, no matter how hard you tried to do everything fair and well, even generous, you occasionally fucked up, that's normal.
    But you also need to see and understand that Nelgin also is "only human" and felt badly enough treated and ignored to start a dispute and this thread.

    My main question is: are you fair and decent enough to not put him one "black lists" like FraudRecord, or are you not and stubborn?

    With all due respect but you are not entitled to this information.

    The way this thing evolved so far, one of you will "win" - but at ugly costs and wounded in one way or another. So, I suggest you (as the stronger party) rethink your approach and offer a fair solution.

    The OP can close the chargeback and process via a normal manner, we will then not charge any fees to the OP. If the OP continues and we win - the OP will receive a refund minus the fees. It’s up to the OP. Inception continues to provide service until this very day.

    The notice the OP has received was clear, precise, and with the best intentions possible.

    The OP was clearly informed his service is free from the time the notice was issued by Inception until 15/01/2025.

    TL;DR: We will continue this private war to the end plus a - quite politely worded - "fuck you!"

    My reaction: you putting @Nelgin on any kind of blacklist == Clouvider blacklisted (certainly not only by myself) and congrats for your ability to drive fans sour.

    Have nice Xmas days.

    There’s no private war - the OP can do the right thing and be refunded along everyone else, it’s OP choice. Inception will follow a standard process in line with the contract and treat the OP equally with other Customers.

    ... matching YOUR definition of "the right thing", of course.

    Again:
    You putting @Nelgin on any kind of blacklist == Clouvider blacklisted (certainly not only by myself) and congrats for your ability to drive fans sour.

    @NobodyInteresting said:
    You did say yourself that you don't have services with Clouvider due to them being expensive, compared to inception, and you're not planning on getting one.

    So you adding them to your shitlist is fairly inconsequential.

    That's largely correct. Note though that I spoke for my own private use. I do have business clients as well though and for those @Clouvider was in the short list of candidates.

    Thanked by 1NobodyInteresting
  • @uhu said:

    @ralf said: and a promise of a refund

    A "promise" from a company that is shutting down. Yeah, you'd trust them. I wouldn't.

    Actually, yes. In the new year, I'm going to take them up on the 50% deal to migrate to Clouvider. It'll be less bandwidth allowance than I'm currently on, but significantly better CPU for about the same money. The network is about the best you can get for UK coverage IMHO.

    It's also funny that when I originally grabbed my Inception machine 2 years ago, every one was so pleased they showed up because everyone wanted a piece of the Clouvider network action and they rarely did low-end deals any more. Honestly, now I can see why they wouldn't want to bother.

  • @plumberg said:
    Ignored for 2 weeks.

    true but so what? the service is still running. the OP wants to decide his termination date and get a refund but I don't think he's entitled to that given that it's a 1 year prepaid contract. the termination date is determined by the provider and the refund is definitely not entitled until the termination date has passed.

    it's a "karen" move by the OP but putting him on a "fraud" list is a dick move. There needs to be a karen list in this case.

  • @Clouvider said:

    @uhu said:

    @Clouvider said:

    @uhu said:

    @ralf said: and a promise of a refund

    A "promise" from a company that is shutting down. Yeah, you'd trust them. I wouldn't.

    OP will be well within the dispute period for the Q1 and most of Q2 2025; Clouvider is guaranteeing Inception’s refunds.

    But as you've clearly demonstrated in this thread, you can't be trusted. You will happily gaslight as much as necessary to make everything the customer's fault.

    Ars you Inception Customer?

    Yes, since 2017. Fortunately not for much longer though.

  • @Clouvider said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:
    You're an UK business right? Did you seriously just state that?

    Inception Hosting is in a process of originally shutdown after issuing notice of ceasing operations.> @muffin said:

    @Clouvider said:

    @muffin said:
    Bunch of miscommunication it seems. I might be missing something, but I still don’t understand why @Clouvider keeps insisting that OP received free service - didn’t he clearly pay for it, very recently, until next year?

    As per the notice, service is free from the moment the notice was issued until 15/01/2025.

    The notice has been very clear.

    Ahh, I see. So OP is entitled to a prorated refund of 11 months I assume? But he did already pay in advance for 1 year - wouldn’t it make sense for him to wonder and ask when he would be able to expect a refund, and get a response within 10-14 days (which is long enough)?

    After all, he still had to, just after a month of his renewal, find another host and pay upfront for another service, when the money is still in your hands. The ‘free service’ is already worthless the moment he had to go out of his way to get a replacement, and finished transferring data.

    The OP has been provided with a notice and will be provided with a refund. Inception is really sorry they cannot continue their services but as you can see, an honest and honourable way of shutting down the business - with refunding Customers has been chosen with a free service provided for a prolonged period of time and care taken to provide notice as soon as possible before the Black Friday.

    Yep, that’s why I said it’s a bunch of miscommunication.

    The OP can close the chargeback and process via a normal manner, we will then not charge any fees to the OP. If the OP continues and we win - the OP will receive a refund minus the fees. It’s up to the OP. Inception continues to provide service until this very day.

    Had this been mentioned in the ticket instead of the small threat, then everything would have been smooth :) The only way OP managed to finally get a response after waiting for long was through raising a dispute anyway, so immediately responding in that manner is not good in my eyes.

    Thanked by 2jsg samm
  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    Yeah bit he states ignoring clients for 30 days is perfectly fine... I mean c'mon now.

    I have no beef in this fight, albeit a clouvider customer, but that's just batshit insane innit?

    For me, it's just stretching too far now over a petty thing.

    But 14 days no response doesn't translate that the provider is scumbag, right?

    The challenge is people see one bad thing and wash away the good ever done. Not just here, but in real life as well.

    It's so unfortunate to see things transpire.

    Thanked by 3ralf Saragoldfarb Erisa
  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Patron Provider

    @jsg said:

    @Clouvider said:

    @jsg said:

    @Clouvider said:

    @jsg said:

    Most of that sounds nice and well and fitting the positive image of Clouvider I had so far (and hope stays alive and valid), but

    • it's not customer's / @Nelgin's fault if a rookie staff member fucks up
    • unless Nelgin is grossly spreading lies, you did NOT react properly (in style and time) but left him feeling ignored (not baselessly it seems)
    • your logic that a free service can not be cancelled is plain wrong.
    • customer just recently had paid for a year in advance iirc. That makes a big difference. In my case for example I had paid, also yearly in advance, maybe 5 months or so ago. Had I just recently paid only to learn a few weeks later that you'll stop my service I as well might have been pissed off and completely cancel everything, 1 month or two of free service or not.

    From what I see, your side fucked up, be it a rookie and/or be it being a bit overwhelmed or whatever, the result is that you fucked up.
    But maybe you really did not ignore him. If so, please provide a time-line from your POV and evidence. Without that it's very very hard to believe that a former customer who was happy and content for years suddenly turn hostile and publicly spreads lies about you.

    Also, as you might have seen in between the lines, I do see that that whole InceptionHosting thing might be a bit much for you and your team (in terms of small detail stuff) and may have come a bit surprising for you too. As a result, no matter how hard you tried to do everything fair and well, even generous, you occasionally fucked up, that's normal.
    But you also need to see and understand that Nelgin also is "only human" and felt badly enough treated and ignored to start a dispute and this thread.

    My main question is: are you fair and decent enough to not put him one "black lists" like FraudRecord, or are you not and stubborn?

    With all due respect but you are not entitled to this information.

    The way this thing evolved so far, one of you will "win" - but at ugly costs and wounded in one way or another. So, I suggest you (as the stronger party) rethink your approach and offer a fair solution.

    The OP can close the chargeback and process via a normal manner, we will then not charge any fees to the OP. If the OP continues and we win - the OP will receive a refund minus the fees. It’s up to the OP. Inception continues to provide service until this very day.

    The notice the OP has received was clear, precise, and with the best intentions possible.

    The OP was clearly informed his service is free from the time the notice was issued by Inception until 15/01/2025.

    TL;DR: We will continue this private war to the end plus a - quite politely worded - "fuck you!"

    My reaction: you putting @Nelgin on any kind of blacklist == Clouvider blacklisted (certainly not only by myself) and congrats for your ability to drive fans sour.

    Have nice Xmas days.

    There’s no private war - the OP can do the right thing and be refunded along everyone else, it’s OP choice. Inception will follow a standard process in line with the contract and treat the OP equally with other Customers.

    ... matching YOUR definition of "the right thing", of course.

    Matching the contractual definition - service provided - no right to issue a chargeback. Inception as a company in the process of being shutdown that issued all necessary notices and promise of a refund to the Customer is behaving more than reasonably in the circumstances, the OP is not.

    Inception will not prioritise OP over other Customers, albeit you can say that a day of work has so far been spent repeating ourselves here, definitely not speeding up assistance to other Customers.

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  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Patron Provider

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @plumberg said:

    @jsg said:

    Unless I'm very mistaken, OP was not at all about "expedite a refund ahead of everyone else that patiently waited" but rather about being ignored for weeks!

    Ignored for 2 weeks.

    FTFY

    Yeah bit he states ignoring clients for 30 days is perfectly fine... I mean c'mon now.

    I have no beef in this fight, albeit a clouvider customer, but that's just batshit insane innit?

    It’s not. Nobody was ignored for 30 days.
    But 30 days from email to chargeback is perfectly reasonable.

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @uhu said:

    @Clouvider said:

    @uhu said:

    @Clouvider said:

    @uhu said:

    @ralf said: and a promise of a refund

    A "promise" from a company that is shutting down. Yeah, you'd trust them. I wouldn't.

    OP will be well within the dispute period for the Q1 and most of Q2 2025; Clouvider is guaranteeing Inception’s refunds.

    But as you've clearly demonstrated in this thread, you can't be trusted. You will happily gaslight as much as necessary to make everything the customer's fault.

    Ars you Inception Customer?

    Yes, since 2017. Fortunately not for much longer though.

    I mean there wiild be no Inception Hosting customer after Jan 2025.. so there's that, no trophy for you.

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  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @artxs said:

    @plumberg said:
    Ignored for 2 weeks.

    it's a "karen" move by the OP but putting him on a "fraud" list is a dick move. There needs to be a karen list in this case.

    You wanna start one?

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  • @plumberg said:

    @uhu said:

    @Clouvider said:

    @uhu said:

    @Clouvider said:

    @uhu said:

    @ralf said: and a promise of a refund

    A "promise" from a company that is shutting down. Yeah, you'd trust them. I wouldn't.

    OP will be well within the dispute period for the Q1 and most of Q2 2025; Clouvider is guaranteeing Inception’s refunds.

    But as you've clearly demonstrated in this thread, you can't be trusted. You will happily gaslight as much as necessary to make everything the customer's fault.

    Ars you Inception Customer?

    Yes, since 2017. Fortunately not for much longer though.

    I mean there wiild be no Inception Hosting customer after Jan 2025.. so there's that, no trophy for you.

    Clouvider asked, I answered. No trophy needed,

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  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @plumberg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    Yeah bit he states ignoring clients for 30 days is perfectly fine... I mean c'mon now.

    I have no beef in this fight, albeit a clouvider customer, but that's just batshit insane innit?

    For me, it's just stretching too far now over a petty thing.

    But 14 days no response doesn't translate that the provider is scumbag, right?

    The challenge is people see one bad thing and wash away the good ever done. Not just here, but in real life as well.

    It's so unfortunate to see things transpire.

    Yes, that's why I mentioned before (I think) the thread title is a bit harsh. But read his comment again above.

    Wtf :#

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