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How do you protect yourself from scammers?

MivoCloudMivoCloud Member, Host Rep

Unfortunately, fraudsters have always existed and likely always will, and there’s little we can do to eliminate them entirely. That said, I would like to hear about your experiences with them and how you protect yourself. Let me share one of my stories.

Not long ago, I received a call from someone claiming to represent my bank, saying that a large sum of money had been withdrawn from my account. (In reality, there was no money in the account to begin with.) It was immediately clear to me that this was a scam, and I ended the conversation without engaging further.

This is just one example. It doesn’t even begin to cover the companies that engage in fraudulent activities or the scammers who come up with increasingly sophisticated ways to deceive unsuspecting people.

Could you share your experiences? How were you able to recognize a scam, and in cases where money was lost, what steps did you take to recover it? Your insights could help others stay vigilant and better protect themselves.

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  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    always be cautions when sending money to strangers over the internet

    regards

  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    cautions

    it s correct !

  • @allthemtings said:
    always be cautions when sending money to strangers over the internet

    regards

    and dont send 20k in crypto

  • I don’t answer phone calls from unknown numbers. If it’s important, they can leave a voice mail.

    If it’s someone claiming to be my bank, I’ll call them directly from the number on my debit card, not blindly trust the incoming number.

    Lastly I use credit card for all purchases, never bank transfers, so chargeback is always an option.

  • anubhavhiranianubhavhirani Member
    edited December 2024

    I don't have any money, so...?

  • LeviLevi Member
    edited December 2024

    Well, standard, universal routine apply:

    1. Pre-block risky countries;
    2. Pay extra for fraudulent CC screen (stripe);
    3. Use appropriate tools in your WHMCS for abusive users;
    4. Do not advertise DMCA free, pr0n allowed;
    5. Do not advertise in places where scammers roam;
    6. Use common sense, don't blinded by dollars;

    The rest depends on situation. Extra:

    1. Block proxy, VPN, tor. No exceptions;
    2. Implement KYC with photo with current day newspaper;
    3. Allow only custom domain email use. Do not accept gmail, outlook etc.
    4. Pre-ban risky mailboxes: .shop, .top, .xyz etc.;
    5. Run custom background checks on customers. Google their data, dox to the max;
    6. Accept only CC, no BTC or other shady payment methods;
    7. Go out of business if tired from battle with scammers;

    To be fair: battle with scammers is a whack-a-mole game. Never ending, No one can't win, everyone enjoys the game. Try it, lax your views. Shit happens, always have plan B,C,D and F (fck it).

  • I only use PayPal to pay

  • MivoCloudMivoCloud Member, Host Rep

    @Levi said:
    Well, standard, universal routine apply:

    1. Pre-block risky countries;
    2. Pay extra for fraudulent CC screen (stripe);
    3. Use appropriate tools in your WHMCS for abusive users;
    4. Do not advertise DMCA free, pr0n allowed;
    5. Do not advertise in places where scammers roam;
    6. Use common sense, don't blinded by dollars;

    The rest depends on situation. Extra:

    1. Block proxy, VPN, tor. No exceptions;
    2. Implement KYC with photo with current day newspaper;
    3. Allow only custom domain email use. Do not accept gmail, outlook etc.
    4. Pre-ban risky mailboxes: .shop, .top, .xyz etc.;
    5. Run custom background checks on customers. Google their data, dox to the max;
    6. Accept only CC, no BTC or other shady payment methods;
    7. Go out of business if tired from battle with scammers;

    To be fair: battle with scammers is a whack-a-mole game. Never ending, No one can't win, everyone enjoys the game. Try it, lax your views. Shit happens, always have plan B,C,D and F (fck it).

    That's a good advices

  • MivoCloudMivoCloud Member, Host Rep

    @Carlin0 said:
    I only use PayPal to pay

    Oh, that's cool

  • xvpsxvps Member
    edited December 2024

    @Levi said:
    2. Implement KYC with photo with current day newspaper;

    The only ones I’ve ever heard of using this method are hookers in their online ads. :D

    Use one of the many legitimate AI-driven ID verification apps. This way, you don’t have to deal with privacy laws, as it’s handled by a third party, and you can fully automate the process.

  • xHostsxHosts Member, Patron Provider

    I use a app called Truecaller on my iPhone, there is a free and a premium version, but the premium is only about £20GBP a year which seems to work well

    Thanked by 1dsbnoob
  • @xHosts said:
    I use a app called Truecaller on my iPhone, there is a free and a premium version, but the premium is only about £20GBP a year which seems to work well

    You are basically sharing contact data when you use Truecaller. It identifies numbers for you and at the same time it reveals who you are to others.

  • MivoCloudMivoCloud Member, Host Rep

    @Maelstrom36 said:

    @xHosts said:
    I use a app called Truecaller on my iPhone, there is a free and a premium version, but the premium is only about £20GBP a year which seems to work well

    You are basically sharing contact data when you use Truecaller. It identifies numbers for you and at the same time it reveals who you are to others.

    That's ok i think

  • xHostsxHosts Member, Patron Provider

    @Maelstrom36 said:

    @xHosts said:
    I use a app called Truecaller on my iPhone, there is a free and a premium version, but the premium is only about £20GBP a year which seems to work well

    You are basically sharing contact data when you use Truecaller. It identifies numbers for you and at the same time it reveals who you are to others.

    You can stop it accessing your own contacts but scam calls are added by its users to inform others of known scams or popular numbers such as legitimate banks, utility companies

  • We have too much scammer here in thailand 😃. Our neighbor country is even a hub of these kind(cambodia laos myanmar). Even whoscall's mother company open an office here.

    It was very shit to level that Phone carrier, Police even give out free whoscall premium code to people.

    Thanked by 1nick_
  • MivoCloudMivoCloud Member, Host Rep

    @Blembim said:
    We have too much scammer here in thailand 😃. Our neighbor country is even a hub of these kind(cambodia laos myanmar). Even whoscall's mother company open an office here.

    It was very shit to level that Phone carrier, Police even give out free whoscall premium code to people.

    Well, wow, that's the level of arrogance xD

  • If someone is calling claiming to be X, and you want to be sure it's them (especially if they can't give info they would only know without asking for yours first). Ask them for there name/info and look up there number (Don't user caller id or what they give) and ask if you can be transfer to that person or if it's even legit.
    My friend had someone from "Chase" wanted to talk about the auto loan they are opening. The number they left in the voicemail when google didn't have good rep and wasn't listed on any Chase info. Calling Chase fraud they didn't know what number it was and give the number for the real Chase auto loan department. Calling the unknown number from a VOIP number lead straight to some person. Normally when you call Chase you get given to prerecorded stuff and have to hit button.
    Turned out it was a scammer trying to take out a loan from my friend's brother info and was calling to get extra info to trick the bank.

  • @MivoCloud said:

    @Blembim said:
    We have too much scammer here in thailand 😃. Our neighbor country is even a hub of these kind(cambodia laos myanmar). Even whoscall's mother company open an office here.

    It was very shit to level that Phone carrier, Police even give out free whoscall premium code to people.

    Well, wow, that's the level of arrogance xD

    Welp, maybe i'm saying too much that it sound bluff 😆. but I have to say, I wonder where the scammers got our personal information. I mean they get our name right, citizen id, home address right. Where tf does they get that info from?

  • During the two months I am awake, I never answer the phone, and I don't listen to my voicemail either, because there are too many messages, and it is obviously too late. 😊

    When I wake up in November, I visit my bank, check if everything is all right, and leave with a wall calendar.

    Thanked by 2PineappleM naphtha
  • MivoCloudMivoCloud Member, Host Rep

    @SteveMC said:
    During the two months I am awake, I never answer the phone, and I don't listen to my voicemail either, because there are too many messages, and it is obviously too late. 😊

    When I wake up in November, I visit my bank, check if everything is all right, and leave with a wall calendar.

    LOL Just the best strategy

    Thanked by 2SteveMC PineappleM
  • MivoCloudMivoCloud Member, Host Rep

    @Blembim said:

    @MivoCloud said:

    @Blembim said:
    We have too much scammer here in thailand 😃. Our neighbor country is even a hub of these kind(cambodia laos myanmar). Even whoscall's mother company open an office here.

    It was very shit to level that Phone carrier, Police even give out free whoscall premium code to people.

    Well, wow, that's the level of arrogance xD

    Welp, maybe i'm saying too much that it sound bluff 😆. but I have to say, I wonder where the scammers got our personal information. I mean they get our name right, citizen id, home address right. Where tf does they get that info from?

    As a rule, this information is sold to them by companies that possess it, I'm not saying that your state will sell this information, but many sites do. Also, when entering (especially if the site is poorly protected), your information can be stolen, with my experience in various fields, I can say that many people accidentally share their data. Yes, it's stupid, but it happens, just like the fact that you forgot your bank card at an ATM :D

    Thanked by 1Blembim
  • MivoCloudMivoCloud Member, Host Rep

    @Kevinf100 said:
    If someone is calling claiming to be X, and you want to be sure it's them (especially if they can't give info they would only know without asking for yours first). Ask them for there name/info and look up there number (Don't user caller id or what they give) and ask if you can be transfer to that person or if it's even legit.
    My friend had someone from "Chase" wanted to talk about the auto loan they are opening. The number they left in the voicemail when google didn't have good rep and wasn't listed on any Chase info. Calling Chase fraud they didn't know what number it was and give the number for the real Chase auto loan department. Calling the unknown number from a VOIP number lead straight to some person. Normally when you call Chase you get given to prerecorded stuff and have to hit button.
    Turned out it was a scammer trying to take out a loan from my friend's brother info and was calling to get extra info to trick the bank.

    It's kind of tinny, by the way, with regard to this, I've made a habit of never answering Yes when answering a call. It turns out that your yes may be enough for scammers to withdraw money from the bank :(

    Thanked by 1admax
  • @MivoCloud said:

    It's kind of tinny, by the way, with regard to this, I've made a habit of never answering Yes when answering a call. It turns out that your yes may be enough for scammers to withdraw money from the bank :(

    What in the inbreed cousinfucking idiocracy kind of bank do you have??
    Sometimes I feel like I have to prove my identity in 11 different ways and show up in person at a local bank office, with a relative, twice, before my bank even shows me how much money I have on my account. And you say that your bank allows withdrawals by simply hearing a random recorded "yes"?

  • @rcy026 said:

    @MivoCloud said:

    It's kind of tinny, by the way, with regard to this, I've made a habit of never answering Yes when answering a call. It turns out that your yes may be enough for scammers to withdraw money from the bank :(

    What in the inbreed cousinfucking idiocracy kind of bank do you have??
    Sometimes I feel like I have to prove my identity in 11 different ways and show up in person at a local bank office, with a relative, twice, before my bank even shows me how much money I have on my account. And you say that your bank allows withdrawals by simply hearing a random recorded "yes"?

  • Keep current with r/scams on reddit.

  • MivoCloudMivoCloud Member, Host Rep

    @rcy026 said:

    @MivoCloud said:

    It's kind of tinny, by the way, with regard to this, I've made a habit of never answering Yes when answering a call. It turns out that your yes may be enough for scammers to withdraw money from the bank :(

    What in the inbreed cousinfucking idiocracy kind of bank do you have??
    Sometimes I feel like I have to prove my identity in 11 different ways and show up in person at a local bank office, with a relative, twice, before my bank even shows me how much money I have on my account. And you say that your bank allows withdrawals by simply hearing a random recorded "yes"?

    THAT'S RIGHT, I'm shocked with banks that work this way, but rather the fact is that there are normal banks that require different ways of confirmation, and there are those that just need to tell the date of birth, place of residence and ask to withdraw money. I am already silent about what is happening in Russia

  • @MivoCloud said:

    @rcy026 said:

    @MivoCloud said:

    It's kind of tinny, by the way, with regard to this, I've made a habit of never answering Yes when answering a call. It turns out that your yes may be enough for scammers to withdraw money from the bank :(

    What in the inbreed cousinfucking idiocracy kind of bank do you have??
    Sometimes I feel like I have to prove my identity in 11 different ways and show up in person at a local bank office, with a relative, twice, before my bank even shows me how much money I have on my account. And you say that your bank allows withdrawals by simply hearing a random recorded "yes"?

    THAT'S RIGHT, I'm shocked with banks that work this way, but rather the fact is that there are normal banks that require different ways of confirmation, and there are those that just need to tell the date of birth, place of residence and ask to withdraw money. I am already silent about what is happening in Russia

    What banks work that way, and in what country? And what kind of numbnut would use such a bank?

  • just dont have enough money in the bank

    😌
    🤔
    😮
    😢

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  • MivoCloudMivoCloud Member, Host Rep

    @cybertech said:
    just dont have enough money in the bank

    😌
    🤔
    😮
    😢

    :D

  • MivoCloudMivoCloud Member, Host Rep

    @rcy026 said:

    @MivoCloud said:

    @rcy026 said:

    @MivoCloud said:

    It's kind of tinny, by the way, with regard to this, I've made a habit of never answering Yes when answering a call. It turns out that your yes may be enough for scammers to withdraw money from the bank :(

    What in the inbreed cousinfucking idiocracy kind of bank do you have??
    Sometimes I feel like I have to prove my identity in 11 different ways and show up in person at a local bank office, with a relative, twice, before my bank even shows me how much money I have on my account. And you say that your bank allows withdrawals by simply hearing a random recorded "yes"?

    THAT'S RIGHT, I'm shocked with banks that work this way, but rather the fact is that there are normal banks that require different ways of confirmation, and there are those that just need to tell the date of birth, place of residence and ask to withdraw money. I am already silent about what is happening in Russia

    What banks work that way, and in what country? And what kind of numbnut would use such a bank?

    These are banks with really bad support, as a rule they try to close them, but damn they are :(

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