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  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @emgh said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:
    Also looking for a Swedish VM... Quite low-end.

    I don't think there's anything really cheaper than HostHatch

    Some lesser known providers though:

    https://host2play.se/shop/vps - not low-end, not very reputable (not a bad reputation, I just haven't heard anything about them), but wanted to give a try at some point since they're in the most epic DC in the world, Pionen, and are the only ones I know of that offer high core clocks there

    Then there's https://karabro.se/cloudvps, also haven't tried, company info looks a bit off so also not what I'd consider very reputable, but does BGP so likely knowledgable at least

    So yeah, not a very competitive market

    Thanks. Will check them out!

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  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @barbaros said:

    @beanman109 said:

    @lukast__ said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @barbaros said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:
    Also looking for a Swedish VM... Quite low-end.

    We have @emgh if you like...

    I beg to differ. @emgh is quite high end.

    YABS please

    of the pants or pantless version?
    performance increases quite a bit without pants

    he has sneakers with holes, I doubt he has pants.

    it s correct

    Thanked by 3barbaros beanman109 r3k
  • beanman109beanman109 Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @emgh said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @barbaros said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:
    Also looking for a Swedish VM... Quite low-end.

    We have @emgh if you like...

    I beg to differ. @emgh is quite high end. Great taste in shoes also.

    <3

    fuck I still haven't ordered

    There's always Christmas. I really liked some pink and purple Adidas sneakers but was distracted by this thread so missed the discount.

    Promised to blow Santa.

    @santa gratz on winning the giveaway

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @428 said: I thought at first time using AAAA record in the CloudFlare solve this issue, I can access the vps, but in the vps, cant do apt update

    This solves INCOMING WEB traffic proxied through Cloudflare, nothing else, sadly

    Thanked by 2Maki r3k
  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @barbaros said:

    @beanman109 said:

    @lukast__ said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @barbaros said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:
    Also looking for a Swedish VM... Quite low-end.

    We have @emgh if you like...

    I beg to differ. @emgh is quite high end.

    YABS please

    of the pants or pantless version?
    performance increases quite a bit without pants

    he has sneakers with holes, I doubt he has pants.

    No problem. Holes are there to be filled.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    some people: IPv6 is the best! So easy! Very usable! IPs looking like some bcrypt hash isn't an issue because we got DNS!

    also ip6:

    @428 said: I can access the vps, but in the vps, cant do apt update

  • @Saragoldfarb said: Also looking for a Swedish VM... Quite low-end.

    HostHatch, got one in SWE with them.

    Thanked by 2Saragoldfarb r3k
  • beanman109beanman109 Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    @428 said: Thank you, so this is also why people restraining to purchase ipv6 only vps?

    Mainly due to lack of ISP support & a lot of major websites / services not supporting it until recently.

    It's also fucking shit / confusing as shit

    Thanked by 2Maki r3k
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    using IPv6 to communicate with the outside internet is about as effective as trying to get everyone on the internet to join your wireguard vpn

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @Ramsterdam said:

    @Saragoldfarb said: Also looking for a Swedish VM... Quite low-end.

    HostHatch, got one in SWE with them.

    Thanks. I have only been using them in NL, solid. Didn't know they were offering Sweden also. Will check them out. Might still have some account credit with them.

    Thanked by 1r3k
  • Damn, i saw today an i7-4790k with 32GB RAM and 2x1TB HDD for €19.99/m in Dusseldorf from Oneprovider, but was sadly long gone.

    Thanked by 3plumberg admax r3k
  • admaxadmax Member, Megathread Squad

    @emgh said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:
    Also looking for a Swedish VM... Quite low-end.

    I don't think there's anything really cheaper than HostHatch

    Some lesser known providers though:

    https://host2play.se/shop/vps - not low-end, not very reputable (not a bad reputation, I just haven't heard anything about them), but wanted to give a try at some point since they're in the most epic DC in the world, Pionen, and are the only ones I know of that offer high core clocks there

    Then there's https://karabro.se/cloudvps, also haven't tried, company info looks a bit off so also not what I'd consider very reputable, but does BGP so likely knowledgable at least

    So yeah, not a very competitive market

    In fact, Oracle's free cloud tier includes the Sweden region, but the difficult part is passing the registration challenge for the Oracle Cloud trial subscription!

    Thanked by 3emgh Saragoldfarb r3k
  • @Saragoldfarb said:

    @barbaros said:

    @beanman109 said:

    @lukast__ said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @barbaros said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:
    Also looking for a Swedish VM... Quite low-end.

    We have @emgh if you like...

    I beg to differ. @emgh is quite high end.

    YABS please

    of the pants or pantless version?
    performance increases quite a bit without pants

    he has sneakers with holes, I doubt he has pants.

    No problem. Holes are there to be filled.

    I believe @crunchbits was helping @emgh about that.

    Thanked by 3emgh beanman109 r3k
  • @beanman109 said:

    @428 said: Thank you, so this is also why people restraining to purchase ipv6 only vps?

    Mainly due to lack of ISP support & a lot of major websites / services not supporting it until recently.

    It's also fucking shit / confusing as shit

    TL;DR

  • @emgh said:

    @428 said: I thought at first time using AAAA record in the CloudFlare solve this issue, I can access the vps, but in the vps, cant do apt update

    This solves INCOMING WEB traffic proxied through Cloudflare, nothing else, sadly

    So, I guess for simple web that doesn't require too much update and only use local connection like using SQLite only and no API to outside, this work perfectly?

    Thanked by 2emgh r3k
  • @beanman109 said:

    @428 said: Thank you, so this is also why people restraining to purchase ipv6 only vps?

    Mainly due to lack of ISP support & a lot of major websites / services not supporting it until recently.

    It's also fucking shit / confusing as shit

    My ISP doesn't support it yet, they say (soon). And if you need port forwarding I believe you have to be on IPv4, which makes things even shittier, as it will be road block for home users (visiting websites using IPv6)

    Thanked by 2beanman109 r3k
  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @ascicode said:
    Damn, i saw today an i7-4790k with 32GB RAM and 2x1TB HDD for €19.99/m in Dusseldorf from Oneprovider, but was sadly long gone.

    Reselling the KS-A and took out some RAM :D

    Thanked by 2Ramsterdam r3k
  • RamsterdamRamsterdam Member
    edited December 2024

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @Ramsterdam said:

    @Saragoldfarb said: Also looking for a Swedish VM... Quite low-end.

    HostHatch, got one in SWE with them.

    Thanks. I have only been using them in NL, solid. Didn't know they were offering Sweden also. Will check them out. Might still have some account credit with them.

    Welcome. I do know they had some issues with storage hosting in Sweden but my KVMs there have been rock solid since last year when I got them.

    Thanked by 1r3k
  • beanman109beanman109 Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    They should just make another 4.3b IPv4 addresses, call it like IPv4v2 or something

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @428 said:

    @emgh said:

    @428 said: I thought at first time using AAAA record in the CloudFlare solve this issue, I can access the vps, but in the vps, cant do apt update

    This solves INCOMING WEB traffic proxied through Cloudflare, nothing else, sadly

    So, I guess for simple web that doesn't require too much update and only use local connection like using SQLite only and no API to outside, this work perfectly?

    yes

    you likely need to do something like this https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/dns64

    but I'm not an expert in that field, I don't think I've EVER had a non-mobile ISP in Sweden even providing IPv6 at all, and I've used most of them, so VPS with only IPv6 have never been interesting to me

    Thanked by 2Maki r3k
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited December 2024

    @beanman109 said:
    They should just make another 4.3b IPv4 addresses, call it like IPv4v2 or something

    or just rip every company assigned /8, it makes no sense that they get to keep those

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  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @admax said:

    @emgh said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:
    Also looking for a Swedish VM... Quite low-end.

    I don't think there's anything really cheaper than HostHatch

    Some lesser known providers though:

    https://host2play.se/shop/vps - not low-end, not very reputable (not a bad reputation, I just haven't heard anything about them), but wanted to give a try at some point since they're in the most epic DC in the world, Pionen, and are the only ones I know of that offer high core clocks there

    Then there's https://karabro.se/cloudvps, also haven't tried, company info looks a bit off so also not what I'd consider very reputable, but does BGP so likely knowledgable at least

    So yeah, not a very competitive market

    In fact, Oracle's free cloud tier includes the Sweden region, but the difficult part is passing the registration challenge for the Oracle Cloud trial subscription!

    I like your thinking. I have Oracle instances on NL and UK. The registration challenge shouldn't be a problem.

    Thanked by 3emgh admax r3k
  • admaxadmax Member, Megathread Squad

    @428 said:

    @beanman109 said:

    @428 said:
    Question, is NAT64 a proxy? it seems using it add latency to ping...

    By definition, yes

    @admax said:

    @428 said:
    Question, is NAT64 a proxy? it seems using it add latency to ping...

    However, it allows you to access network resources deployed on IPv4, which is equivalent to accessing IPv4-only websites using an IPv4 address provided by a NAT64 server. Therefore, finding a NAT64 server closer to the IPv6 server can help reduce latency.

    Thank you, so this is also why people restraining to purchase ipv6 only vps?
    does its better to use CloudFlare warp or existing NAT64 provider like nat64.xyz,

    I thought at first time using AAAA record in the CloudFlare solve this issue, I can access the vps, but in the vps, cant do apt update

    does NAT64 also add latency to ingoing traffic, like I access it via https to open my web there?

    Sorry too much to ask, Im just a newb.

    If you can access the VPS but cannot run apt update on the VPS, it's likely because the server itself lacks a network environment that supports IPv6 connectivity, or the DNS configuration does not fully support IPv6. Using NAT64 can indeed increase latency, especially when converting IPv6 traffic to IPv4, as the NAT64 server acts as an intermediary for the traffic conversion. This conversion process introduces delays in data transmission, especially during HTTPS access. Due to the delays caused by encryption handshakes and data transmission itself, if the NAT64 server is far away or the network conditions are poor, the latency may be more noticeable.

  • @emgh said:

    @428 said:

    @emgh said:

    @428 said: I thought at first time using AAAA record in the CloudFlare solve this issue, I can access the vps, but in the vps, cant do apt update

    This solves INCOMING WEB traffic proxied through Cloudflare, nothing else, sadly

    So, I guess for simple web that doesn't require too much update and only use local connection like using SQLite only and no API to outside, this work perfectly?

    yes

    you likely need to do something like this https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/dns64

    but I'm not an expert in that field, I don't think I've EVER had a non-mobile ISP in Sweden even providing IPv6 at all, and I've used most of them, so VPS with only IPv6 have never been interesting to me

    Does putting the site behind Cloudflare gives access via IPv4? I am network noob and never bothered trying this.

    Thanked by 2emgh r3k
  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad

    @emgh said:

    @beanman109 said:
    They should just make another 4.3b IPv4 addresses, call it like IPv4v2 or something

    or just rip every company assigned /8, it makes no sense that they keep to keep those

    And also those assigned to the US Department of Defense, IIRC 13 /8s.

    Thanked by 2emgh r3k
  • @barbaros said:

    @emgh said:

    @428 said:

    @emgh said:

    @428 said: I thought at first time using AAAA record in the CloudFlare solve this issue, I can access the vps, but in the vps, cant do apt update

    This solves INCOMING WEB traffic proxied through Cloudflare, nothing else, sadly

    So, I guess for simple web that doesn't require too much update and only use local connection like using SQLite only and no API to outside, this work perfectly?

    yes

    you likely need to do something like this https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/dns64

    but I'm not an expert in that field, I don't think I've EVER had a non-mobile ISP in Sweden even providing IPv6 at all, and I've used most of them, so VPS with only IPv6 have never been interesting to me

    Does putting the site behind Cloudflare gives access via IPv4? I am network noob and never bothered trying this.

    I already tried that, and yes you can

    Thanked by 3barbaros emgh r3k
  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @barbaros said:

    @emgh said:

    @428 said:

    @emgh said:

    @428 said: I thought at first time using AAAA record in the CloudFlare solve this issue, I can access the vps, but in the vps, cant do apt update

    This solves INCOMING WEB traffic proxied through Cloudflare, nothing else, sadly

    So, I guess for simple web that doesn't require too much update and only use local connection like using SQLite only and no API to outside, this work perfectly?

    yes

    you likely need to do something like this https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/dns64

    but I'm not an expert in that field, I don't think I've EVER had a non-mobile ISP in Sweden even providing IPv6 at all, and I've used most of them, so VPS with only IPv6 have never been interesting to me

    Does putting the site behind Cloudflare gives access via IPv4? I am network noob and never bothered trying this.

    Yes, well used to afaik. They have a gateway.

    Thanked by 4barbaros emgh admax r3k
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @barbaros said:

    @emgh said:

    @428 said:

    @emgh said:

    @428 said: I thought at first time using AAAA record in the CloudFlare solve this issue, I can access the vps, but in the vps, cant do apt update

    This solves INCOMING WEB traffic proxied through Cloudflare, nothing else, sadly

    So, I guess for simple web that doesn't require too much update and only use local connection like using SQLite only and no API to outside, this work perfectly?

    yes

    you likely need to do something like this https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/dns64

    but I'm not an expert in that field, I don't think I've EVER had a non-mobile ISP in Sweden even providing IPv6 at all, and I've used most of them, so VPS with only IPv6 have never been interesting to me

    Does putting the site behind Cloudflare gives access via IPv4? I am network noob and never bothered trying this.

    yes

    if you just proxy through cf and enter a AAAA record and no A record, your domain will still be fully accessible through IPv4

  • beanman109beanman109 Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    @lukast__ said:

    @emgh said:

    @beanman109 said:
    They should just make another 4.3b IPv4 addresses, call it like IPv4v2 or something

    or just rip every company assigned /8, it makes no sense that they keep to keep those

    And also those assigned to the US Department of Defense, IIRC 13 /8s.

    1 ip address for every tomahawk missle

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