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Kimsufi/Soyoustart/OVH Rise New Price

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  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @allthemtings said:

    @emgh said:

    @TomasSystems said:

    @emgh said:
    @TomasSystems @Neoon & any other OVH nerds

    How is Gravelines vs. Warsaw in terms of route quality, stability & likely to not go up in flames?

    Very late to the party....

    Warsaw is often routed through FRA anyway, I would avoid it to be honest if network is a big thing.

    Go GRA or LIM, they're probably the best locations for routing.

    If you need a good link to BHS, go with ERI.

    Thanks!!

    I changed my mind a few times since

    Newest question: If keeping the same IP for as long as possible going forward is important, without being limited by future deals, which EU DC is "least likely" to be a limitation of having my additional IP's bound to? That's far more important to me than having the best routing.

    As I understand it, it's either eu-west-gra, eu-west-rbx, and eu-west-sbg or 1 other DC.

    If i recall @Cybr was/is in a similar situation needing to keep an ip linked to an old server but they refused to budge on the price of the server despite it being like 3-4 times cheaper now

    Yes but he didn't use additional IP's, I would not make that mistake. This is about being bound to regions. My it s smart regard

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  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    @emgh said:

    @allthemtings said:

    @emgh said:

    @TomasSystems said:

    @emgh said:
    @TomasSystems @Neoon & any other OVH nerds

    How is Gravelines vs. Warsaw in terms of route quality, stability & likely to not go up in flames?

    Very late to the party....

    Warsaw is often routed through FRA anyway, I would avoid it to be honest if network is a big thing.

    Go GRA or LIM, they're probably the best locations for routing.

    If you need a good link to BHS, go with ERI.

    Thanks!!

    I changed my mind a few times since

    Newest question: If keeping the same IP for as long as possible going forward is important, without being limited by future deals, which EU DC is "least likely" to be a limitation of having my additional IP's bound to? That's far more important to me than having the best routing.

    As I understand it, it's either eu-west-gra, eu-west-rbx, and eu-west-sbg or 1 other DC.

    If i recall @Cybr was/is in a similar situation needing to keep an ip linked to an old server but they refused to budge on the price of the server despite it being like 3-4 times cheaper now

    Yes but he didn't use additional IP's, I would not make that mistake. This is about being bound to regions. My it s smart regard

    it s correct

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • OhJohnOhJohn Member

    @emgh said: Can anyone confirm this is how it works? I only found some OVH doc saying their bound to their region with no definition of that

    See https://www.ovhcloud.com/en/network/additional-ip/ (List of available regions)

    esp.

    You can assign your IP address blocks to any compatible service within a region.
    IP address blocks in a region can be moved from one datacenter to another within that region but cannot be moved outside of that region.

    Except for the 3 regions eu-west-gra, eu-west-rbx, and eu-west-sbg, where IP address blocks can be moved between these three regions.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • TomasSystemsTomasSystems Member

    @emgh said:

    @TomasSystems said:

    @emgh said:
    @TomasSystems @Neoon & any other OVH nerds

    How is Gravelines vs. Warsaw in terms of route quality, stability & likely to not go up in flames?

    Very late to the party....

    Warsaw is often routed through FRA anyway, I would avoid it to be honest if network is a big thing.

    Go GRA or LIM, they're probably the best locations for routing.

    If you need a good link to BHS, go with ERI.

    Thanks!!

    I changed my mind a few times since

    Newest question: If keeping the same IP for as long as possible going forward is important, without being limited by future deals, which EU DC/region is "least likely" to be a limitation of having my additional IP's bound to? That's far more important to me than having the best routing.

    As I understand it, it's either eu-west-gra, eu-west-rbx, and eu-west-sbg or 1 other region. Clear winner one of the three combined ones, right?

    So you can buy an additional IP on a server in GRA, this IP can then be moved to any server that supports it in GRA, RBX and SBG.

    If you buy an IP in ERI, this can only then be used on a server in ERI in the future (same for LIM, WAW, BHS, SYD, SGP, YYZ, YNM).

    You can get around this with vRack, but you need a server that supports it, and a minimum of a /30 subnet.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @OhJohn said:

    @emgh said: Can anyone confirm this is how it works? I only found some OVH doc saying their bound to their region with no definition of that

    See https://www.ovhcloud.com/en/network/additional-ip/ (List of available regions)

    esp.

    You can assign your IP address blocks to any compatible service within a region.
    IP address blocks in a region can be moved from one datacenter to another within that region but cannot be moved outside of that region.

    Except for the 3 regions eu-west-gra, eu-west-rbx, and eu-west-sbg, where IP address blocks can be moved between these three regions.

    Yep, seems like a clear winner for GRA/RBX/SBG.

    I have used LIM a lot and I honestly liked it, very good and stable network performance for me personally, but being forever limited to one single region is a bit meh.

    Seems more likely to find future good deals in either GRA/RBX/SBG than in only LIM.

    Thanked by 1allthemtings
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @TomasSystems said: You can get around this with vRack, but you need a server that supports it, and a minimum of a /30 subnet.

    Thanks yet again.

    I'd probably need a /30 anyway.

    Are these IP's different than additional IP's or can I for example buy a /30 and a server in LIM and cancel it in 2 years and reroute the LIM IP's to a server in GRA using the vRack? Any drawbacks?

  • OhJohnOhJohn Member

    The only thing to remember: with OVH being OVH you never know if the state of today (move additional ips between gra/rbx/sbg) is the state of the future...

    esp. since they plan on introducing more availability zone besides par-1/2/3

  • TomasSystemsTomasSystems Member

    @emgh said:

    @TomasSystems said: You can get around this with vRack, but you need a server that supports it, and a minimum of a /30 subnet.

    Thanks yet again.

    I'd probably need a /30 anyway.

    Are these IP's different than additional IP's or can I for example buy a /30 and a server in LIM and cancel it in 2 years and reroute the LIM IP's to a server in GRA using the vRack? Any drawbacks?

    The only drawback is out of that /30, only one IP will be usable. Also latency may be higher, as the traffic will first hit LIM, and then it will be routed to GRA via vRack.

    When routed in vRack, one is broadcast, one is gateway, and one is the network address.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • TomasSystemsTomasSystems Member

    @OhJohn said:
    The only thing to remember: with OVH being OVH you never know if the state of today (move additional ips between gra/rbx/sbg) is the state of the future...

    esp. since they plan on introducing more availability zone besides par-1/2/3

    I highly doubt this would ever change... this has always been the case with OVH, and have a dedicated 'routing' DC for Additional IPs in France.

    Thanked by 2OhJohn emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @OhJohn said: The only thing to remember: with OVH being OVH you never know if the state of today (move additional ips between gra/rbx/sbg) is the state of the future...

    Yes this is it

    Keeping the same IPs is quite important for me because our IP's get manually whitelisted and changing that can take a week or more, an urgent change can mean us losing access to stuff until the change is complete

  • wuckwuck Member
    edited December 2024

    I always had good network lottery on RBX (had 2x SYS on 1gbs full duplex), now the Rise-LE-3 with 10gbs down.

    edit: They extended BF offer with empty stock but went quick to remove that 10% MONDAY code :D

    Thanked by 3allthemtings emgh Zoidy
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @TomasSystems said:

    @emgh said:

    @TomasSystems said: You can get around this with vRack, but you need a server that supports it, and a minimum of a /30 subnet.

    Thanks yet again.

    I'd probably need a /30 anyway.

    Are these IP's different than additional IP's or can I for example buy a /30 and a server in LIM and cancel it in 2 years and reroute the LIM IP's to a server in GRA using the vRack? Any drawbacks?

    The only drawback is out of that /30, only one IP will be usable. Also latency may be higher, as the traffic will first hit LIM, and then it will be routed to GRA via vRack.

    When routed in vRack, one is broadcast, one is gateway, and one is the network address.

    I see

    I'll probably need about 4-5 usable IP's

    I can host anywhere in the EU

    Keeping the same IP's for long is important

    Not losing out on future deals (and retaining the IP's) is important

    What would you do in my situation?

    I'm thinking France looks good as, right now, I can move IP's between regions, and if I by tomorrow can't, at least I can vRack them and it won't cause a lot extra latency since it'll all be in France

    Or should I just get singular additional IP's since it's cheaper because GRA or some other DC likely won't be too limiting going forward and the chances of removing the function of moving of IP's between France DC is low?

    Get me the Tomas way and I'll do it <3

    Thanked by 1allthemtings
  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    GRA/RBX is always my go to never let me down

    Thanked by 4emgh wuck jolo22 Falzo
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @allthemtings said: GRA/RBX is always my go to never let me down

    Ah so you got your KS-A's

  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    @emgh said:

    @allthemtings said: GRA/RBX is always my go to never let me down

    Ah so you got your KS-A's

    Thanked by 5emgh ehab wuck sh97 maverick
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @allthemtings said:

    @emgh said:

    @allthemtings said: GRA/RBX is always my go to never let me down

    Ah so you got your KS-A's

    WHY ARE THEY STILL PENDING LMAO

  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    @emgh said:

    @allthemtings said:

    @emgh said:

    @allthemtings said: GRA/RBX is always my go to never let me down

    Ah so you got your KS-A's

    WHY ARE THEY STILL PENDING LMAO

    fuck the ks-a i dont even want it

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  • ehabehab Member

    @emgh don't kick him where it hurts

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  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    @allthemtings said:

    @emgh said:

    @allthemtings said:

    @emgh said:

    @allthemtings said: GRA/RBX is always my go to never let me down

    Ah so you got your KS-A's

    WHY ARE THEY STILL PENDING LMAO

    fuck the ks-a i dont even want it

    i lied i do plz @OVH_APAC

    Thanked by 4ehab emgh fullclick32 maverick
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @allthemtings said:

    @emgh said:

    @allthemtings said:

    @emgh said:

    @allthemtings said: GRA/RBX is always my go to never let me down

    Ah so you got your KS-A's

    WHY ARE THEY STILL PENDING LMAO

    fuck the ks-a i dont even want it

    email: your order has been processed

    Thanked by 1allthemtings
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @ehab said:
    @emgh don't kick him where it hurts

    welcome back <3

    Thanked by 2ehab allthemtings
  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    Rise or advance then @emgh

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @allthemtings said:
    Rise or advance then @emgh

    Rise looks good but the ones that look good are OOS, no?

    You fancy anything in stock from Rise?

    Compute, not storage, needed

    This is what I'm currently looking at:

    Advance-1
AMD EPYC 4244P - 6c/12t - 3.8GHz/5.1GHz
64GB DDR5 ECC On-Die 5200MHz
2× 960GB SSD NVMe Soft RAID
1Gbit/s unmetered and guaranteed
Private bandwidth: 25Gbit/s unmetered
€96.99
    Thanked by 1allthemtings
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    Depending on Tomas next response, probably in Gravelines

    Thanked by 1allthemtings
  • wuckwuck Member

    Rise-2 does give you some good Gen4 NVMe here is a YABS of one I had:

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4020980#Comment_4020980

    Thanked by 2emgh allthemtings
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited December 2024

    @wuck said:
    Rise-2 does give you some good Gen4 NVMe here is a YABS of one I had:

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4020980#Comment_4020980

    (base config) OOS in EU, teaser

  • wuckwuck Member

    Yea I just tried too and looks like they have 0 NVMe stock :D

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @wuck said:
    Yea I just tried too and looks like they have 0 NVMe stock :D

    I know the MONDAY deals are the LE line, and not these ones

    But you have to give it to OVH, running promos only on out of stock servers is smart

  • TomasSystemsTomasSystems Member

    @emgh said:

    @TomasSystems said:

    @emgh said:

    @TomasSystems said: You can get around this with vRack, but you need a server that supports it, and a minimum of a /30 subnet.

    Thanks yet again.

    I'd probably need a /30 anyway.

    Are these IP's different than additional IP's or can I for example buy a /30 and a server in LIM and cancel it in 2 years and reroute the LIM IP's to a server in GRA using the vRack? Any drawbacks?

    The only drawback is out of that /30, only one IP will be usable. Also latency may be higher, as the traffic will first hit LIM, and then it will be routed to GRA via vRack.

    When routed in vRack, one is broadcast, one is gateway, and one is the network address.

    I see

    I'll probably need about 4-5 usable IP's

    I can host anywhere in the EU

    Keeping the same IP's for long is important

    Not losing out on future deals (and retaining the IP's) is important

    What would you do in my situation?

    I'm thinking France looks good as, right now, I can move IP's between regions, and if I by tomorrow can't, at least I can vRack them and it won't cause a lot extra latency since it'll all be in France

    Or should I just get singular additional IP's since it's cheaper because GRA or some other DC likely won't be too limiting going forward and the chances of removing the function of moving of IP's between France DC is low?

    Get me the Tomas way and I'll do it <3

    I would say get a /30 or /29 and buy a server in GRA.

    GRA is always solid, and network is more reliable than RBX.

    But France is the way to go... also most if not all sale servers will be in at least one French DC.

    Thanked by 2emgh Zoidy
  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member, Megathread Squad

    @wuck said:
    Rise-2 does give you some good Gen4 NVMe here is a YABS of one I had:

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4020980#Comment_4020980

    Wow literally a lottery some rise-le have gen3 lol

    Thanked by 1emgh
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