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Personally I moved into clouvider for now with their double bandwith deal, itll work great. The pricing is great and so far my performance in ashburn and NYC is fantastic. Spec to price is definitely worth it, to me. 5TB minimum bandwidth for their VPS lineup.
Incognet and crunchbits are great, especially their East coast location which is very close to me and network is alright. I think they're just using tierpoint blend as far as I can tell. It's pretty good. Both are feature rich and incognet has the ability for external firewall, like hetzner has.
Crunchbits for additional bandwidth is cheap, like extremely cheap when using the build your own vps and focusing on bandwidth. BUT they seemingly have a lack of available stock for a while which I'd love to see them address so I can provision more stuff there.
There's buyvm but honestly I didn't like their route with my site to site endpoints so that didn't work for me and I wanted ashburn, va. Also never in stock.
Netcup but hardly any capacity in the US but great bandwidth total limits at like 2TB a day...if you can buy anything in Virginia which doubt it'll happen.
ovh exists but I mean do with that what you will.
No real other budget hourly providers at all, I don't think, that can replace hetzner for people who like to consistently provision and destroy for testing and such. It is what it is. It seems demand is extremely high and costs are up and going up for providers so I think the typical shithosts will often sell out or not be able to invest in expanding at their low prices.
Fortunately I don't require hourly.
If I need hourly there's always vultr, though I am getting >10% cpu steal on some deployments.
Jeeeez I remember when vultr was considered ultra premium. Then they started to suck a bit. Linode sold to megacorp. It's been a death spiral for a bit.
People are saying linode is still good, but I somehow doubt they have very many demanding customers since they left their pricing at year 2000 levels.
But yeah vultr has really declined. When I complained about the cpu steal they tried to upsell me on their dedicated cpu instances which costs 600% more, even though I was only using like 30% of the cpu.
BuyVM has no stock and when I tried them like 5 years ago, they constantly had uptime issues despite all the people here saying they had good uptime.
I'm leaving Hetzner, it's a shame, I was enjoying it, I'm not asking for a price increase
What will affect me is the reduction in bandwidth.
Hetzner's real strengths lie in their platform features like internal networks, easy firewalls, snapshots/backups, object storage, etc. Vultr, linode and digitalocean also have similar features but without the extra hardware specs vs pricing.
The 1tb though is a rug pull and cash grab. 5tb for example would have probably been enough to maintain the vast majority of the users but I'm guessing the 1tb is on purpose to ween out and cut costs from heavy (cheap) users quickly and add some cash infusion from the heavy users with more money to spend.
In reality, this will only affect less than 0.1% of their userbase
And this 0.1% userbase is abusing their network, creating 50% of the transit costs
(Randomly guessed numbers, you get what i mean)
my main usecase is a low latency site to site vpn to reach my home network and the vps is the termination point - i know there are other managed solutions for this like tailscale and such, but, its what i like to do. so after maxkvm died out, i went to hetzner cloud. i use a lot of bandwidth due to this kind of setup. i don't really consider that abuse...maybe abnormal usecase?
Hetzner probably wants to only keep business customers, i will send you a better deal for VPN in PM
been using CPX11 for quite some time, usually around ~1.5TB usage monthly hosting syncthing relay.
this price increase+less bandwidth is not worth it for me, at least that was easy to move them somewhere else with similar price but with more bandwidth. looking for $5/mo vps in US with more than 1TB traffic is unsurprisingly easy.
this is why we can't have nice things
I'd love to buy from OVH if they fixed their billing system to allow use of Mastercard for monthly payments. Instead of having to "top up". Stupid shit.
This happens because ovh does not support tokenized cc save. Visa also does not work with them for auto renewal.
Nearly every other provider can support it, why can't OVH? It wouldn't be an issue but they were so trigger happy suspending services if you are 0.01 microseconds late paying your invoice after it was issued, it was easier just to move.
Maybe it's their way of reducing customers who aren't profitable. If you pay thousands of euro every month you will probably make the effort to log in. If you just have one €5 VPS yeah you might forget.
Probably depends on gateway they use for cc payments. I believe it is something ancient, based in France and most probably is Oles friend. That’s why they do not switch to stripe.
hmmm my mastercard and paypal both work fine for me with OVH monthly payments.
When I tried adding paypal for automated payments it wouldn't let me pick the mastercard. Only my personal visa debit, which I didn't want to use for a business payment.
This was earlier in the year so if they've fixed it, great.
I have a mastercard on their EU-Location.
Works flawlessly and without any problems for at least 5 years.
I ended up canceling the cheap ($15/mo) Hetzner VM I had due to this. The price increase is minor, but the traffic is what got me. I didn't use a huge amount of traffic, but I could see a couple TBs a month, just enough to worry about the limit. The support experience also was fairly mediocre, not sure why people seem to like their support, unless it's a situation where it's a choice between bad and worse?
I also cancelled my Hetzner services after this price increase. The company seems to be coasting off of their name recognition rather than competitive specs or pricing. Time to move on.
What did you both switch to?
Moved my stuff to dedicated servers from @crunchbits and VPS from IncogNET ( @MannDude )
Two companies I already liked for their reliability and having the right values.
I did similar...I went to Clouvider for now for their premium network. I'm still considering Crunchbits but I have to research their ASN.
What was wrong with incog?
Just to point out real quick that this is only on a few nodes at the moment. Seems to be going well and nothing drastic has broken as a result so we'll likely perform this upgrade across the board soon.
never lol
Ah even still. Really good feature, from my perspective it's a competitive edge to have. Most providers simply don't have this at all as an option.
Clouvider is great and their bandwidth is premium.
Yes they are, I was just waiting on getting a bit more of that premium bandwidth included haha. But have had a dedi with them for many years, and have had amazing experience.
Same here. Dom runs a great ship.