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Dedicated 2 cores vs Shared 8 cores: Which is better?

Hi, this is my first time buying from LET. There are many good deals but I'm in a dilemma.

I found some deals with Dedicated 2 cores having around the same price as Shared 8 cores. Which one is more worth it assuming everything else is the same?

Thanks for your help and explanation.

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  • Shared 8 cores

  • labzelabze Member, Patron Provider

    In the majority of cases 8 shared cores will be better.

    The primary benefit of dedicated cores is the possibility of using 100% of the cores at all time. As long as your expected CPU usage is within the fair usage policy for the shared vps then that would be best.

  • IMO 8 shared cores but then it depends on your neighbours and depends on what you plan on doing. If you have a project that cannot have any performance issues or downtime then dedicated cores would probably be a safer option.

    For shared, you want to see if the host has a FUP and how they handle misuse/resource hogging. I'd personally check the reviews of the host for the shared cores and see if the reviews look alright.

    If you did go with shared and you do have issues later down the line, you can always raise a ticket and make the host aware of performance issues, they likely look into it or simply move you to a quieter server.

  • All depends on use case.

    For the most people - 8 shared is going to be far superior to 2 dedicated - but that's also dependent upon what type of CPU. What type of CPU are we talking?

  • Thanks for all the responses.

    I'm mainly using it to host websites and possibly Nextcloud for file sharing. So I don't think I'll be able to use 100% of the cores.

    @Petey_Long said:
    All depends on use case.

    For the most people - 8 shared is going to be far superior to 2 dedicated - but that's also dependent upon what type of CPU. What type of CPU are we talking?

    Intel® Xeon® Platinum for Dedicated cores
    EPYC Milan for Shared cores

  • I would take 1 Dedicated and leave 20 shared.

    Thanked by 1yoursunny
  • 8 shared absolutely

    Thanked by 1beermachine
  • @rid said:
    Thanks for all the responses.

    I'm mainly using it to host websites and possibly Nextcloud for file sharing. So I don't think I'll be able to use 100% of the cores.

    @Petey_Long said:
    All depends on use case.

    For the most people - 8 shared is going to be far superior to 2 dedicated - but that's also dependent upon what type of CPU. What type of CPU are we talking?

    Intel® Xeon® Platinum for Dedicated cores
    EPYC Milan for Shared cores

    Don't know your use case but if you're not expecting to be pinning the cores (violating fair use) - I'd go Milan with zero hesitation.

  • tdworztdworz Member
    edited November 2024

    I would take the 2 dedicated cores, especially if we are talking 2 real dedicated cores (so 4 threads).

    I like dedicated hardware because I don't have to worry about how badly oversold my shared VPS is (and they almost all are). Just for running websites (esp light stuff like WordPress) without getting too much traffic, there is no problem for shared CPUs, but a Nextcloud install with several heavy users could see performance really degraded. Nextcloud for one or two people will probably be okay, but you'll have to see.

    As for the CPU models you mentioned, they are both decent but not the latest and greatest. Platinum I believe started with Xeon Skylake so that's 2018-ish or newer. EPYC Milan is 2021.

  • @labze said:
    In the majority of cases 8 shared cores will be better.

    The primary benefit of dedicated cores is the possibility of using 100% of the cores at all time. As long as your expected CPU usage is within the fair usage policy for the shared vps then that would be best.

    +1 for this.

    I have a 6 shared Ryzen 7950x vCores VPS and that is definitely better than having dedicated 2 vCores

  • @tdworz said: I would take the 2 dedicated cores, especially if we are talking 2 real dedicated cores (so 4 threads).

    There's one host here (who is otherwise amazing) who offers a 2 dedicated core VDS - but instead of 2 threads, you get 1. Don't know how that works - but just know that's not always the case.

  • If you are still confused by the advice of others, then you should try both, then you will get the answer yourself.

  • a safer bet is just to take the dedicated resource rather then guessing if the shared resources will be available

  • VanessaVanessa Member, Patron Provider

    Shared 8 cores

  • @mijo said:
    If you are still confused by the advice of others, then you should try both, then you will get the answer yourself.

    Good advice. Maybe I can purchase 1 month to try them out.

  • @tdworz said:
    I would take the 2 dedicated cores, especially if we are talking 2 real dedicated cores (so 4 threads).

    I like dedicated hardware because I don't have to worry about how badly oversold my shared VPS is (and they almost all are). Just for running websites (esp light stuff like WordPress) without getting too much traffic, there is no problem for shared CPUs, but a Nextcloud install with several heavy users could see performance really degraded. Nextcloud for one or two people will probably be okay, but you'll have to see.

    As for the CPU models you mentioned, they are both decent but not the latest and greatest. Platinum I believe started with Xeon Skylake so that's 2018-ish or newer. EPYC Milan is 2021.

    I'm worried about Nextcloud because the files will be shared for downloading and if too many people start downloading at the same time, not sure how that will affect the server. Bandwidth for sure but any idea about the effects on CPU?

  • @Petey_Long said:
    Don't know your use case but if you're not expecting to be pinning the cores (violating fair use) - I'd go Milan with zero hesitation.

    I'm using the server for websites and Nextcloud file sharing.

  • @rid said:

    @Petey_Long said:
    Don't know your use case but if you're not expecting to be pinning the cores (violating fair use) - I'd go Milan with zero hesitation.

    I'm using the server for websites and Nextcloud file sharing.

    Milan would be my recommendation!

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    We prefer dedicated cores for peace of mind.
    The last thing we want is waking up to a suspended server due to "CPU abuse".
    Currently encoding video on 2 shared cores, cpulimit 40 where AUP allows 50%, anxiously watching htop.

    Thanked by 1tdworz
  • @Petey_Long said:

    @rid said:

    @Petey_Long said:
    Don't know your use case but if you're not expecting to be pinning the cores (violating fair use) - I'd go Milan with zero hesitation.

    I'm using the server for websites and Nextcloud file sharing.

    Milan would be my recommendation!

    Thank you for your recommendation.

  • shared 8 cores better.

    unless its a contabo.

  • @Petey_Long said:

    @tdworz said: I would take the 2 dedicated cores, especially if we are talking 2 real dedicated cores (so 4 threads).

    There's one host here (who is otherwise amazing) who offers a 2 dedicated core VDS - but instead of 2 threads, you get 1. Don't know how that works - but just know that's not always the case.

    if HT is turned off

  • Petey_LongPetey_Long Barred
    edited November 2024

    @rid said:

    @Petey_Long said:

    @rid said:

    @Petey_Long said:
    Don't know your use case but if you're not expecting to be pinning the cores (violating fair use) - I'd go Milan with zero hesitation.

    I'm using the server for websites and Nextcloud file sharing.

    Milan would be my recommendation!

    Thank you for your recommendation.

    And just so you're not taking information blindly without any reasoning (al

    My reasoning: Nextcloud and websites aren't likely going to carry a heavy sustained load. With something like NGINX - you can utilize ALL the cores, thereby lowering the overall load . Given how many cores and how powerful they are - you'd notice much higher performance with the shared Milan's over the Dedicated Platinum and it's highly unlikely you'll have a sustained load that will put you in the danger zone with shared.

    @dev_vps said:

    @Petey_Long said:

    @tdworz said: I would take the 2 dedicated cores, especially if we are talking 2 real dedicated cores (so 4 threads).

    There's one host here (who is otherwise amazing) who offers a 2 dedicated core VDS - but instead of 2 threads, you get 1. Don't know how that works - but just know that's not always the case.

    if HT is turned off

  • @rid said: me, not sure how that will affect the server. Bandwidth for sure but any idea about the effects on CPU?

    Quote

    @Petey_Long said:

    @tdworz said: I would take the 2 dedicated cores, especially if we are talking 2 real dedicated cores (so 4 threads).

    There's one host here (who is otherwise amazing) who offers a 2 dedicated core VDS - but instead of 2 threads, you get 1. Don't know how that works - but just know that's not always the case.

    There are consumer Intel CPUs that have single-threaded cores. I'm not sure about Xeons. And there is also the the problem that "core" "cpu" "vcore" "vcpu" don't really have a standard definition. To get beyond any BS when it comes to VDS, what matters is (1) how many threads you get, and (2) the performance of each thread. There are other metrics that matters but if someone is that sophisticated, they are prob buying dedicated servers.

  • @rid said:
    I'm worried about Nextcloud because the files will be shared for downloading and if too many people start downloading at the same time, not sure how that will affect the server. Bandwidth for sure but any idea about the effects on CPU?

    I doubt CPU will be a bottleneck just for downloads, assuming it's just the web server reading from disk. Maybe if there is some extra operation performed by Nextcloud (meaning PHP is significantly involved with every download). But you'll probably hit networking limits before CPU limits.

  • @yoursunny said:
    We prefer dedicated cores for peace of mind.
    The last thing we want is waking up to a suspended server due to "CPU abuse".
    Currently encoding video on 2 shared cores, cpulimit 40 where AUP allows 50%, anxiously watching htop.

    This!! Lol story of my life.

  • Petey_LongPetey_Long Barred
    edited November 2024

    @tdworz said:

    @rid said: me, not sure how that will affect the server. Bandwidth for sure but any idea about the effects on CPU?

    Quote

    @Petey_Long said:

    @tdworz said: I would take the 2 dedicated cores, especially if we are talking 2 real dedicated cores (so 4 threads).

    There's one host here (who is otherwise amazing) who offers a 2 dedicated core VDS - but instead of 2 threads, you get 1. Don't know how that works - but just know that's not always the case.

    There are consumer Intel CPUs that have single-threaded cores. I'm not sure about Xeons. And there is also the the problem that "core" "cpu" "vcore" "vcpu" don't really have a standard definition. To get beyond any BS when it comes to VDS, what matters is (1) how many threads you get, and (2) the performance of each thread. There are other metrics that matters but if someone is that sophisticated, they are prob buying dedicated servers.

    I understand the point you're making but just unsure on how it applies to this person's question.

    6 cores, threads, whatever it is is going to be better than (2) VDS cores (or 4 threads) no matter what the case. 2 threads vs 1 VDS core = 2 threads of Milan vs 2 threads of the Platinum. Milan wins.

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited November 2024

    @tdworz said:

    @rid said:
    I'm worried about Nextcloud because the files will be shared for downloading and if too many people start downloading at the same time, not sure how that will affect the server. Bandwidth for sure but any idea about the effects on CPU?

    I doubt CPU will be a bottleneck just for downloads, assuming it's just the web server reading from disk. Maybe if there is some extra operation performed by Nextcloud (meaning PHP is significantly involved with every download). But you'll probably hit networking limits before CPU limits.

    10gig data download works fine even with 1 vCore as long as no network issues.

    Example
    HostSlim $12/year 1 vCore VPS

  • @dev_vps said:

    @tdworz said:

    @rid said:
    I'm worried about Nextcloud because the files will be shared for downloading and if too many people start downloading at the same time, not sure how that will affect the server. Bandwidth for sure but any idea about the effects on CPU?

    I doubt CPU will be a bottleneck just for downloads, assuming it's just the web server reading from disk. Maybe if there is some extra operation performed by Nextcloud (meaning PHP is significantly involved with every download). But you'll probably hit networking limits before CPU limits.

    10gig data download works fine even with 1 vCore as long as no network issues.

    Example
    HostSlim $12/year 1 vCore VPS

    Can confirm on that as recently as 5 minutes ago. Shoutout to @lnx at Linveo!

  • tdworztdworz Member
    edited November 2024

    @Petey_Long said:

    I understand the point you're making but just unsure on how it applies to this person's question.

    6 cores, threads, whatever it is is going to be better than (2) VDS cores (or 4 threads) no matter what the case. 2 threads vs 1 VDS core = that 2 threads of Milan is still going to beat 1 VDS core.

    "no matter what the case" . . . you think the shared cores will be better if each is shared among 30 people? I'm not suggesting that's the case, but I am saying you don't know it's not the case and neither do I. What we do know is dedicated means it's just yours. Also, I looked up "Platinum" branding for Xeons and this stuff is Skylake or better. I'm an AMD kinda guy but Milan isn't that much better even in a worst-case "Platinum" Xeon.

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