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  • @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @TrK said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @noob404 said:

    @chitree said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @noob404 said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:
    hopefully all issues are fixed now... you can right click and copy, or simpler just click the button

    Generated using your page:-

    lmao
    at the end i'll download all the images, zip them and upload them, maybe only on discord, cuz most likely there will be NSFW ones...

    Discord is such spyware https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord
    I'm not sure people are aware of all the "fun" things Discord is doing to their users.

    That's just scary. Just wondering if an OS like Graphene would be able to help me from such spywares built into apps or is the best option to not even install them?

    dont install tbh
    msg arent encrypted... chinese company, they dont care about scams and shit either

    Care to explain? i am eager to read your thoughts about this.

    discord does not excrypt messages
    owned by tencent (company knows for connections with ccp (like every comp in china? duh))
    there are many many scams on discord, many viruses and abuse, discord does not give a fuck
    all they are is about selling data to ccp/whoever else and selling you their shitty nitro
    you speak up, you get banned

    Discord is owned by tencent? i know tencent is investor in discord inc, but isn't discord wholly independent, i agree with message encryption and un-moderated things laying on discord. But linking it to ccp is a bit too much. I mean discord have investments from various companies like sony and others.

    I mean if it's actually linked to Tencent, it's a safe assumption that it has CCP connections as well. Am I wrong?

    It's not linked, it's just similar how you buy stocks, until you are a major share holder you can't be in decisive committee. Also being an US company do you really think they will allow any connections to ccp?

    You are right. Esp. with Trump as POTUS, any such action would result in a big hammer on their heads, if they were to even think about selling data to CCP.

    I think we are derailing the thread to geo politics, i am afraid it won't be any good if we continue this here.

  • Okay everyone, time for me to get back to work, if I wanna participate in any potential GAs that happen in a few hours hopefully. See you then. Please continue the convo. I get to learn a lot from these.

  • @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @TrK said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @noob404 said:

    @chitree said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @noob404 said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:
    hopefully all issues are fixed now... you can right click and copy, or simpler just click the button

    Generated using your page:-

    lmao
    at the end i'll download all the images, zip them and upload them, maybe only on discord, cuz most likely there will be NSFW ones...

    Discord is such spyware https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord
    I'm not sure people are aware of all the "fun" things Discord is doing to their users.

    That's just scary. Just wondering if an OS like Graphene would be able to help me from such spywares built into apps or is the best option to not even install them?

    dont install tbh
    msg arent encrypted... chinese company, they dont care about scams and shit either

    Care to explain? i am eager to read your thoughts about this.

    discord does not excrypt messages
    owned by tencent (company knows for connections with ccp (like every comp in china? duh))
    there are many many scams on discord, many viruses and abuse, discord does not give a fuck
    all they are is about selling data to ccp/whoever else and selling you their shitty nitro
    you speak up, you get banned

    Discord is owned by tencent? i know tencent is investor in discord inc, but isn't discord wholly independent, i agree with message encryption and un-moderated things laying on discord. But linking it to ccp is a bit too much. I mean discord have investments from various companies like sony and others.

    I mean if it's actually linked to Tencent, it's a safe assumption that it has CCP connections as well. Am I wrong?

    It's not linked, it's just similar how you buy stocks, until you are a major share holder you can't be in decisive committee. Also being an US company do you really think they will allow any connections to ccp?

    You are right. Esp. with Trump as POTUS, any such action would result in a big hammer on their heads, if they were to even think about selling data to CCP.

    I think we are derailing the thread to geo politics, i am afraid it won't be any good if we continue this here.

    No, no. That was a single comment. No intention of derailing or talking about politics. It's better left untouched for a thread like this where everyone is looking for fun discussions.

  • chitreechitree Member
    edited November 2024

    @noob404 said:

    @chitree said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @chitree said: Not in my circles :wink:

    here it's whatsapp and discord

    I'd rather kill myself than use those products :sunglasses:

    You could also setup a Matrix protocol chat room with bridges to both of those if you wanted to not use them but still chat with the people on those platforms

    If you don't mind me asking, what's your go to IM then? I mean, not everyone in your friend circle must be tech-savvy. What do you use with them?

    A bunch of us have been using SimpleX recently but for more public things we enjoy the Matrix Protocol and XMPP as both enable us to run our own servers.

    99% of the messaging apps of today are centralized walled proprietary gardens and homey don't play that

  • @noob404 said:
    Okay everyone, time for me to get back to work, if I wanna participate in any potential GAs that happen in a few hours hopefully. See you then. Please continue the convo. I get to learn a lot from these.

    lol the conversations happen cause we want to hear/read each other's pov regarding something. but if you are alone you only do self reflection. :joy:

  • Okay be back in an hour or two hopefully.

  • @noob404 said:

    @chitree said:

    @noob404 said:

    @chitree said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @chitree said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @noob404 said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:
    hopefully all issues are fixed now... you can right click and copy, or simpler just click the button

    Generated using your page:-

    lmao
    at the end i'll download all the images, zip them and upload them, maybe only on discord, cuz most likely there will be NSFW ones...

    Discord is such spyware https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord
    I'm not sure people are aware of all the "fun" things Discord is doing to their users.

    i dislike discord, sadly it's mostly adopted

    Not in my circles :wink:

    Must be a very exclusive circle of like-minded tech-oriented people.

    Indeed it is :wink:

    Wish I had a circle like that locally.

    You can build that circle locally. I'd suggest attending a local 2600 meeting if they have one where you live or to start one if they don't. The weblink for that is https://2600.com/meetings

  • @chitree said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @noob404 said:

    @noob404 said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @noob404 said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @TrK said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @noob404 said:

    @chitree said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @noob404 said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:
    hopefully all issues are fixed now... you can right click and copy, or simpler just click the button

    Generated using your page:-

    lmao
    at the end i'll download all the images, zip them and upload them, maybe only on discord, cuz most likely there will be NSFW ones...

    Discord is such spyware https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord
    I'm not sure people are aware of all the "fun" things Discord is doing to their users.

    That's just scary. Just wondering if an OS like Graphene would be able to help me from such spywares built into apps or is the best option to not even install them?

    dont install tbh
    msg arent encrypted... chinese company, they dont care about scams and shit either

    Care to explain? i am eager to read your thoughts about this.

    discord does not excrypt messages
    owned by tencent (company knows for connections with ccp (like every comp in china? duh))
    there are many many scams on discord, many viruses and abuse, discord does not give a fuck
    all they are is about selling data to ccp/whoever else and selling you their shitty nitro
    you speak up, you get banned

    Didn't know this. A few months ago, learned about their Tencent and CCP connections, but, I thought those were disproven. I guess TG is a better option all IMs.

    TG isnt that safe... they changed TOS lately after the guy was arrested, plus they did some weird stuff
    like
    free telegram premium, if we can use your phone to send sms 2fa -> the fuck?

    Heard about the arrest, but everything else you said is news to me. Prolly the last hpe was the Russian guy's TG. Even that's down the drain now. I remember seeing an app on the series - terminal list though. Let me dig it up.

    Oh yah, it was Threema - https://threema.ch/en

    Not sure if it was just an ad or if it actually is good for security and privacy.

    imo use signal

    The Signal Protocol design is great but the Signal Messenger implementation is flawed in many ways.

    Here is a great article about this topic https://dessalines.github.io/essays/why_not_signal.html

    Here's another article from 2022 about when the Swiss Army banned the use of WhatsApp, Signal & Telegram for use by their soldiers https://www.rt.com/news/545502-switzerland-army-ban-whatsapp-privacy/

    i kneew most of them, im not saying signal is perfect, but the best we have
    with a client we all can trust idc that the server is doing tbh

    as for phone numbers
    sucks but i dont blame them

    Thanked by 1chitree
  • @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @chitree said:

    @noob404 said:

    @chitree said:

    @noob404 said:

    @chitree said:

    @noob404 said:

    @chitree said:

    @noob404 said:

    @chitree said:

    @TrK said:

    @chitree said:

    @TrK said:

    @chitree said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:
    BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

    I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

    I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

    Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

    But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

    isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

    No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

    https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

    If my memory serves me right copperhead was also AOSP powered OS with some privacy tweaks and graphene made it to later stage with improvements over the time. But i feel like about it is just plainly if only if ubuntu touch could have gotten that much support and i might have started using that instead of any AOSP powered rom. Be it graphene or any other.

    There are plenty of Linux-based phone OS, like PostmarketOS, Mobian, and as you mentioned Ubuntu Touch.

    GrapheneOS provides you will "full disk encryption" using hardware and not just software like all the other phones out there today.

    Full disk encryption isn't only available to graphene, it was introduced with google pixel 5(ig), and many other AOSP based roms also have the same disk encryption feature enabled cause the hardware was supported, it's kinda same a tpm no one knew untill MS forced it on everyone's head with bullet.

    As I said to @noob404 above: "The Pixel phones are the only phones with the Titan M security chip which enables it to have that hardware device encryption - all other phones claiming encryption only do so on the sofware level. "

    I only trust full disk encryption on devices & computers which I install the OS on - otherwise it's not to be trusted.

    Never had the time to look into encryption. Is it really worth it, unless your phone/device has some hyper-confidential info?

    Everyone has a different "threat model" and it all depends on what yours is, i.e. what adversaries are you protecting yourself and your data from?

    Again makes sense. But, since the whole world is interconnected now, you can't see a potential adversary. So, I guess it's better to put some time into encryption. Prevention better than cure.

    Imagine having your phone stolen without encryption and then the thief can do whatever he wants with your phone contact list or any other data on your phone such a Banking App, which most banks continue to move people towards using...

    Yah. You got my attention and I am pretty concerned now. Maybe, time to look into it right away.

    Same would apply to a laptop too

    BitLocker enough for debloated Windows or do you recommend something else?

    I would recommend not to use Windows and to instead setup & use LUKS on Linux. Lots of distros have the feature to select during the install process.

    Planning to move to Linux completely very soon. The only hindrance is the though of using Photoshop and Premiere on Wine.

    Tried crita or whatever it's name is, it looks promising and for premiere ig there won't anything good for linux anytime soon.

    This one - https://krita.org/en/
    BTW, I don't need any advanced features on Photoshop or Premiere Pro. Just the very basic features. Any recommendations?

    There's the GIMP too for image editting. https://www.gimp.org/

  • @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @TrK said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @noob404 said:

    @chitree said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @noob404 said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:
    hopefully all issues are fixed now... you can right click and copy, or simpler just click the button

    Generated using your page:-

    lmao
    at the end i'll download all the images, zip them and upload them, maybe only on discord, cuz most likely there will be NSFW ones...

    Discord is such spyware https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord
    I'm not sure people are aware of all the "fun" things Discord is doing to their users.

    That's just scary. Just wondering if an OS like Graphene would be able to help me from such spywares built into apps or is the best option to not even install them?

    dont install tbh
    msg arent encrypted... chinese company, they dont care about scams and shit either

    Care to explain? i am eager to read your thoughts about this.

    discord does not excrypt messages
    owned by tencent (company knows for connections with ccp (like every comp in china? duh))
    there are many many scams on discord, many viruses and abuse, discord does not give a fuck
    all they are is about selling data to ccp/whoever else and selling you their shitty nitro
    you speak up, you get banned

    Discord is owned by tencent? i know tencent is investor in discord inc, but isn't discord wholly independent, i agree with message encryption and un-moderated things laying on discord. But linking it to ccp is a bit too much. I mean discord have investments from various companies like sony and others.

    I mean if it's actually linked to Tencent, it's a safe assumption that it has CCP connections as well. Am I wrong?

    It's not linked, it's just similar how you buy stocks, until you are a major share holder you can't be in decisive committee. Also being an US company do you really think they will allow any connections to ccp?

    You are right. Esp. with Trump as POTUS, any such action would result in a big hammer on their heads, if they were to even think about selling data to CCP.

    I think we are derailing the thread to geo politics, i am afraid it won't be any good if we continue this here.

    fair, we should all shut up

  • @noob404 said:

    @chitree said:

    @noob404 said:

    @chitree said:

    @noob404 said:

    @chitree said:

    @noob404 said:

    @chitree said:

    @noob404 said:

    @chitree said:

    @noob404 said:

    @chitree said:

    @TrK said:

    @chitree said:

    @TrK said:

    @chitree said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:
    BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

    I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

    I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

    Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

    But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

    isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

    No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

    https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

    If my memory serves me right copperhead was also AOSP powered OS with some privacy tweaks and graphene made it to later stage with improvements over the time. But i feel like about it is just plainly if only if ubuntu touch could have gotten that much support and i might have started using that instead of any AOSP powered rom. Be it graphene or any other.

    There are plenty of Linux-based phone OS, like PostmarketOS, Mobian, and as you mentioned Ubuntu Touch.

    GrapheneOS provides you will "full disk encryption" using hardware and not just software like all the other phones out there today.

    Full disk encryption isn't only available to graphene, it was introduced with google pixel 5(ig), and many other AOSP based roms also have the same disk encryption feature enabled cause the hardware was supported, it's kinda same a tpm no one knew untill MS forced it on everyone's head with bullet.

    As I said to @noob404 above: "The Pixel phones are the only phones with the Titan M security chip which enables it to have that hardware device encryption - all other phones claiming encryption only do so on the sofware level. "

    I only trust full disk encryption on devices & computers which I install the OS on - otherwise it's not to be trusted.

    Never had the time to look into encryption. Is it really worth it, unless your phone/device has some hyper-confidential info?

    Everyone has a different "threat model" and it all depends on what yours is, i.e. what adversaries are you protecting yourself and your data from?

    Again makes sense. But, since the whole world is interconnected now, you can't see a potential adversary. So, I guess it's better to put some time into encryption. Prevention better than cure.

    Imagine having your phone stolen without encryption and then the thief can do whatever he wants with your phone contact list or any other data on your phone such a Banking App, which most banks continue to move people towards using...

    Yah. You got my attention and I am pretty concerned now. Maybe, time to look into it right away.

    Same would apply to a laptop too

    BitLocker enough for debloated Windows or do you recommend something else?

    I would recommend not to use Windows and to instead setup & use LUKS on Linux. Lots of distros have the feature to select during the install process.

    Planning to move to Linux completely very soon. The only hindrance is the though of using Photoshop and Premiere on Wine.

    If you have a beefy enough system, you could setup a Windows virtual machine just for those applications.

    Yah, that'd be more convenient, I guess. Been thinking of making the move for almost an year now. Just the thought of moving everything has stopped me. I don't deal very well with change initially.

    In October 2025, Microsoft will EOL Windows 10 which will force people onto Windows 11 (or to potentially switch to Linux), which has the Recall feature enabled. If you don't know about Windows Recall, then this is good article about that https://news.itsfoss.com/microsoft-windows-recall/

  • @chitree said:

    @noob404 said:

    @chitree said:

    @noob404 said:

    @chitree said:

    @noob404 said:

    @chitree said:

    @noob404 said:

    @chitree said:

    @noob404 said:

    @chitree said:

    @noob404 said:

    @chitree said:

    @TrK said:

    @chitree said:

    @TrK said:

    @chitree said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:

    @TrK said:

    @noob404 said:
    BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

    I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

    I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

    Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

    But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

    isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

    No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

    https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

    If my memory serves me right copperhead was also AOSP powered OS with some privacy tweaks and graphene made it to later stage with improvements over the time. But i feel like about it is just plainly if only if ubuntu touch could have gotten that much support and i might have started using that instead of any AOSP powered rom. Be it graphene or any other.

    There are plenty of Linux-based phone OS, like PostmarketOS, Mobian, and as you mentioned Ubuntu Touch.

    GrapheneOS provides you will "full disk encryption" using hardware and not just software like all the other phones out there today.

    Full disk encryption isn't only available to graphene, it was introduced with google pixel 5(ig), and many other AOSP based roms also have the same disk encryption feature enabled cause the hardware was supported, it's kinda same a tpm no one knew untill MS forced it on everyone's head with bullet.

    As I said to @noob404 above: "The Pixel phones are the only phones with the Titan M security chip which enables it to have that hardware device encryption - all other phones claiming encryption only do so on the sofware level. "

    I only trust full disk encryption on devices & computers which I install the OS on - otherwise it's not to be trusted.

    Never had the time to look into encryption. Is it really worth it, unless your phone/device has some hyper-confidential info?

    Everyone has a different "threat model" and it all depends on what yours is, i.e. what adversaries are you protecting yourself and your data from?

    Again makes sense. But, since the whole world is interconnected now, you can't see a potential adversary. So, I guess it's better to put some time into encryption. Prevention better than cure.

    Imagine having your phone stolen without encryption and then the thief can do whatever he wants with your phone contact list or any other data on your phone such a Banking App, which most banks continue to move people towards using...

    Yah. You got my attention and I am pretty concerned now. Maybe, time to look into it right away.

    Same would apply to a laptop too

    BitLocker enough for debloated Windows or do you recommend something else?

    I would recommend not to use Windows and to instead setup & use LUKS on Linux. Lots of distros have the feature to select during the install process.

    Planning to move to Linux completely very soon. The only hindrance is the though of using Photoshop and Premiere on Wine.

    If you have a beefy enough system, you could setup a Windows virtual machine just for those applications.

    Yah, that'd be more convenient, I guess. Been thinking of making the move for almost an year now. Just the thought of moving everything has stopped me. I don't deal very well with change initially.

    In October 2025, Microsoft will EOL Windows 10 which will force people onto Windows 11 (or to potentially switch to Linux), which has the Recall feature enabled. If you don't know about Windows Recall, then this is good article about that https://news.itsfoss.com/microsoft-windows-recall/

    if my game worked on linux i would have switched 5 years ago

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  • @DeadlyChemist said:

    @chitree said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @noob404 said:

    @noob404 said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @noob404 said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @TrK said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @noob404 said:

    @chitree said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @noob404 said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:
    hopefully all issues are fixed now... you can right click and copy, or simpler just click the button

    Generated using your page:-

    lmao
    at the end i'll download all the images, zip them and upload them, maybe only on discord, cuz most likely there will be NSFW ones...

    Discord is such spyware https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord
    I'm not sure people are aware of all the "fun" things Discord is doing to their users.

    That's just scary. Just wondering if an OS like Graphene would be able to help me from such spywares built into apps or is the best option to not even install them?

    dont install tbh
    msg arent encrypted... chinese company, they dont care about scams and shit either

    Care to explain? i am eager to read your thoughts about this.

    discord does not excrypt messages
    owned by tencent (company knows for connections with ccp (like every comp in china? duh))
    there are many many scams on discord, many viruses and abuse, discord does not give a fuck
    all they are is about selling data to ccp/whoever else and selling you their shitty nitro
    you speak up, you get banned

    Didn't know this. A few months ago, learned about their Tencent and CCP connections, but, I thought those were disproven. I guess TG is a better option all IMs.

    TG isnt that safe... they changed TOS lately after the guy was arrested, plus they did some weird stuff
    like
    free telegram premium, if we can use your phone to send sms 2fa -> the fuck?

    Heard about the arrest, but everything else you said is news to me. Prolly the last hpe was the Russian guy's TG. Even that's down the drain now. I remember seeing an app on the series - terminal list though. Let me dig it up.

    Oh yah, it was Threema - https://threema.ch/en

    Not sure if it was just an ad or if it actually is good for security and privacy.

    imo use signal

    The Signal Protocol design is great but the Signal Messenger implementation is flawed in many ways.

    Here is a great article about this topic https://dessalines.github.io/essays/why_not_signal.html

    Here's another article from 2022 about when the Swiss Army banned the use of WhatsApp, Signal & Telegram for use by their soldiers https://www.rt.com/news/545502-switzerland-army-ban-whatsapp-privacy/

    i kneew most of them, im not saying signal is perfect, but the best we have
    with a client we all can trust idc that the server is doing tbh

    as for phone numbers
    sucks but i dont blame them

    Any service you are required to use your phone number for an identifier is a major red flag as that piece of information is a major piece of personally identifiable information (PII). It lets a service know which phone numbers are talking to which other phone numbers; that meta-data leakage lets adversaries connect the dots to correlate with other data and information.

    We still have no way to know what they're doing with the server code and this was proven when they decided to update it without being transparent about it to add in a cryptocurrency with all sorts of shadiness. Great video about that here https://www.bitchute.com/video/tJoO2uWrX1M/

    If I can not freely inspect the code, compile the code, and run my own server to inter-operate with other servers then I don't use it and educate others about why.

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    BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

    I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

    I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

    Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

    But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

    isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

    No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

    https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

    If my memory serves me right copperhead was also AOSP powered OS with some privacy tweaks and graphene made it to later stage with improvements over the time. But i feel like about it is just plainly if only if ubuntu touch could have gotten that much support and i might have started using that instead of any AOSP powered rom. Be it graphene or any other.

    There are plenty of Linux-based phone OS, like PostmarketOS, Mobian, and as you mentioned Ubuntu Touch.

    GrapheneOS provides you will "full disk encryption" using hardware and not just software like all the other phones out there today.

    Full disk encryption isn't only available to graphene, it was introduced with google pixel 5(ig), and many other AOSP based roms also have the same disk encryption feature enabled cause the hardware was supported, it's kinda same a tpm no one knew untill MS forced it on everyone's head with bullet.

    As I said to @noob404 above: "The Pixel phones are the only phones with the Titan M security chip which enables it to have that hardware device encryption - all other phones claiming encryption only do so on the sofware level. "

    I only trust full disk encryption on devices & computers which I install the OS on - otherwise it's not to be trusted.

    Never had the time to look into encryption. Is it really worth it, unless your phone/device has some hyper-confidential info?

    Everyone has a different "threat model" and it all depends on what yours is, i.e. what adversaries are you protecting yourself and your data from?

    Again makes sense. But, since the whole world is interconnected now, you can't see a potential adversary. So, I guess it's better to put some time into encryption. Prevention better than cure.

    Imagine having your phone stolen without encryption and then the thief can do whatever he wants with your phone contact list or any other data on your phone such a Banking App, which most banks continue to move people towards using...

    Yah. You got my attention and I am pretty concerned now. Maybe, time to look into it right away.

    Same would apply to a laptop too

    BitLocker enough for debloated Windows or do you recommend something else?

    I would recommend not to use Windows and to instead setup & use LUKS on Linux. Lots of distros have the feature to select during the install process.

    Planning to move to Linux completely very soon. The only hindrance is the though of using Photoshop and Premiere on Wine.

    If you have a beefy enough system, you could setup a Windows virtual machine just for those applications.

    Yah, that'd be more convenient, I guess. Been thinking of making the move for almost an year now. Just the thought of moving everything has stopped me. I don't deal very well with change initially.

    In October 2025, Microsoft will EOL Windows 10 which will force people onto Windows 11 (or to potentially switch to Linux), which has the Recall feature enabled. If you don't know about Windows Recall, then this is good article about that https://news.itsfoss.com/microsoft-windows-recall/

    if my game worked on linux i would have switched 5 years ago

    Which game is that? Steam has done a great job with Proton and there are also other solutions like Lutris.

  • I wonder where chef is...

  • @chitree said: Which game is that? Steam has done a great job with Proton and there are also other solutions like Lutris.

    rainbow six siege

  • @DeadlyChemist said:

    @chitree said: Which game is that? Steam has done a great job with Proton and there are also other solutions like Lutris.

    rainbow six siege

    Ah, looks like multiplayer is not working with it because the company hasn't ported their Anti-Cheat software to work in Linux
    https://www.protondb.com/app/359550

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    @chitree said: Which game is that? Steam has done a great job with Proton and there are also other solutions like Lutris.

    rainbow six siege

    Could also dual-boot - I use to do that with Win2k for gaming before better support came to Linux.

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    @chitree said: Which game is that? Steam has done a great job with Proton and there are also other solutions like Lutris.

    rainbow six siege

    Ah, looks like multiplayer is not working with it because the company hasn't ported their Anti-Cheat software to work in Linux
    https://www.protondb.com/app/359550

    know it for years

    @chitree said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @chitree said: Which game is that? Steam has done a great job with Proton and there are also other solutions like Lutris.

    rainbow six siege

    Could also dual-boot - I use to do that with Win2k for gaming before better support came to Linux.

    nah thanks, i only play on my pc or i also mainly use windows server 22 vm (right now as well)
    because linux does not have a properly working rdp server

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  • Good morning party people! Looks like everyone was busy. I think this is the biggest jump in number of pages i have seen added since my last log in. Went from like 270ish to 329. Looks like you all have been busy!

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    imma go off for a while, have fun generating pics and spam pinging me i guess

    Oh no, have we gone the route of posting pics now while I was gone? That could explain the huge surge. I am just catching up again now. I heard last year people were spamming like thousands of comments worth of pictures!

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    @DeadlyChemist said:
    imma go off for a while, have fun generating pics and spam pinging me i guess

    Oh no, have we gone the route of posting pics now while I was gone? That could explain the huge surge. I am just catching up again now. I heard last year people were spamming like thousands of comments worth of pictures!

    i didnt, people posted braindead stuff.... was pretty annoyed, oh well

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    BTW, @TrK have you jailbroken your iPad?

    I am not into jail breaking my devices, for security reasons. I even don't root my android since last 4 years.

    I used to like a decade ago. Not after I moved to Pixel. Might root only for the purpose of running Graphene.

    Just don't see any value to it now, was kinda interesting and with all the fuss about magisk and what not, after that it just died down.

    But, Graphene's different, from what I've heard. It does take the fun out of the phone if you use it mainly as a media consumption device. But, if you are privacy and security-centric, Graphene is the OS to have. Edward Snowden recommended it a few years ago.

    isn't it just another AOSP fork i have seen too many tbh all promising this and that, but the security part of any AOSP fork is a joke unless you stopped using Android altogether, the only reason my main device is apple and secondary is android is due to this. Android isn't that secure imo and even though we know it we just can't have google disclose everything.

    No, GrapheneOS is not "just another AOSP fork". Here is a great YouTube video (using a Privacy Front-end) if you want to have a better in-depth explaination of what GrapheneOS really is - I evolved from CopperheadOS, which was never an AOSP fork.

    https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNg

    If my memory serves me right copperhead was also AOSP powered OS with some privacy tweaks and graphene made it to later stage with improvements over the time. But i feel like about it is just plainly if only if ubuntu touch could have gotten that much support and i might have started using that instead of any AOSP powered rom. Be it graphene or any other.

    There are plenty of Linux-based phone OS, like PostmarketOS, Mobian, and as you mentioned Ubuntu Touch.

    GrapheneOS provides you will "full disk encryption" using hardware and not just software like all the other phones out there today.

    Full disk encryption isn't only available to graphene, it was introduced with google pixel 5(ig), and many other AOSP based roms also have the same disk encryption feature enabled cause the hardware was supported, it's kinda same a tpm no one knew untill MS forced it on everyone's head with bullet.

    As I said to @noob404 above: "The Pixel phones are the only phones with the Titan M security chip which enables it to have that hardware device encryption - all other phones claiming encryption only do so on the sofware level. "

    I only trust full disk encryption on devices & computers which I install the OS on - otherwise it's not to be trusted.

    Never had the time to look into encryption. Is it really worth it, unless your phone/device has some hyper-confidential info?

    Everyone has a different "threat model" and it all depends on what yours is, i.e. what adversaries are you protecting yourself and your data from?

    Again makes sense. But, since the whole world is interconnected now, you can't see a potential adversary. So, I guess it's better to put some time into encryption. Prevention better than cure.

    Imagine having your phone stolen without encryption and then the thief can do whatever he wants with your phone contact list or any other data on your phone such a Banking App, which most banks continue to move people towards using...

    Yah. You got my attention and I am pretty concerned now. Maybe, time to look into it right away.

    Same would apply to a laptop too

    BitLocker enough for debloated Windows or do you recommend something else?

    I would recommend not to use Windows and to instead setup & use LUKS on Linux. Lots of distros have the feature to select during the install process.

    Planning to move to Linux completely very soon. The only hindrance is the though of using Photoshop and Premiere on Wine.

    If you have a beefy enough system, you could setup a Windows virtual machine just for those applications.

    Yah, that'd be more convenient, I guess. Been thinking of making the move for almost an year now. Just the thought of moving everything has stopped me. I don't deal very well with change initially.

    In October 2025, Microsoft will EOL Windows 10 which will force people onto Windows 11 (or to potentially switch to Linux), which has the Recall feature enabled. If you don't know about Windows Recall, then this is good article about that https://news.itsfoss.com/microsoft-windows-recall/

    if my game worked on linux i would have switched 5 years ago

    That is probably the only thing that is keeping me off of linux as well. Most games just do not run well there. Some drivers can also be a bit wonky too.. For examples some web cams or usb microphones or controllers do not work as well. It seems a lot of that would improve too though if games made a bigger migration to linux land

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    sigh @unfortunately I thought that was a new comment by @dustinc and got excited. :D

  • @chitree said:

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    @chitree said: Not in my circles :wink:

    here it's whatsapp and discord

    I'd rather kill myself than use those products :sunglasses:

    You could also setup a Matrix protocol chat room with bridges to both of those if you wanted to not use them but still chat with the people on those platforms

    If you don't mind me asking, what's your go to IM then? I mean, not everyone in your friend circle must be tech-savvy. What do you use with them?

    A bunch of us have been using SimpleX recently but for more public things we enjoy the Matrix Protocol and XMPP as both enable us to run our own servers.

    99% of the messaging apps of today are centralized walled proprietary gardens and homey don't play that

    I have used xmpp based clients for work chats before. The clients we used were awful and left a bad taste. I know the protocol may not be at fault here but bad client code has left a bad taste for xmpp. When you use propritary theres defeinitly a benfit that someone can make the whole stack look presentable. There is also the benefits of these open protocols though

  • @noob404 said:
    Okay be back in an hour or two hopefully.

    Left just as I was arriving! We will see you for the next giveaway. Keep an eye on the page, you do not want to miss out on anything today! I am anticipating a busy week of giveaways given its turkey week and black friday week! Bound to see some of the hottest give aways yet!

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