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https://lowendtalk.com/profile/comments/Calin
I see ties there bcs calin keeps recommending zetservers
That's exactly why I say My 2c from yhe beginning.
Yeah, It's a public forum, I'm fine with that
it's good that zetserver already replied, but OP hasn't showed up
two more weeks
If I adore one provider, for sure I share same positive (in my experience) to everyone.
Also dragging @Calin on this case kinda weird, cause my guy just want share good experience he have with @zetservers even my man have video smiling happy on their DC
Well, yeah that's your experience. What can I do?
That's the ties l'm talking about
being in someones datacenter in order to set up your own server is somehow part of a deep conspiracy? cmon now
again, there's no "ties", it's strictly business, that's it
Did I ever mention conspiracy?
Well, if you are OK with that than carry on
I dont and that's my personal choice
@zetservers do you ignore copyright infringement complaints?
what would you do if someone sent copyright infringement complaint to you about a client which uses his own asn and /24, but your network and rack space?
probably nothing, just like every other carrier?
Drama Season II, continue without me, are you fellas ready for lawsuits or you don’t care about defamations?
Regards
What other “carrier” ignores copyright infringement?
Tell me one.
You miss the part of taking down my legacy, it doesn't have time now for you. #mentalgymnastics
Do we count M247 as carrier? if so, they don't give a fuck about copyright infringement. Probably more than 50% of VPN providers are using their networks.
My thanks and appreciation to all our other customers who posted in this thread. I'm wondered how much attention this thread got. At the end people who use their brain can judge by important criterias:
10 years ago did you buyed a company who does it use this template ?
10 years ago we were 5gbps.com
Thanks for bringing this to my attention. It's been 11years+ actually
Zetservers use Voxility facility, who does not even ignore DMCA, let alone copyright infringement.
Zetservers is tiny company compared to Voxility. The only difference is Voxility is smart enough to consult lawyers and protect themselves from legal liability, and Zetservers is small and stupid enough to cash while it last, hoping that they would be safe in shithole like Romania.
maybe they are right, maybe not. Chances are 50/50
@apollo15 ZetServers alone (INTERKVM HOST SRL) had a 25mil turnover last year (we expect to double it this year), while Voxility had a 38mil turnover last year (we expect to be relatively steady this year). ZetServers alone is expected to have at least the turnover of Voxility in 2024 if not bigger. The numbers are publicly available. ZET.NET is not included in the calculations. Refrain from making undocumented affirmations please
PS: ZetServers doesn't use Voxility's facility only. We are present in 40 datacenters from EU and US as I said a few times already in this thread.
On their own IPs? Ofc they don't.
In their datacenter? Who cares. They're not responsible. It's not their computer.
you are talking about RON.
https://www.romanian-companies.eu/interkvm-host-srl-42390138/
https://www.romanian-companies.eu/voxility-srl-16633718/
5 people vs 38 people. And Voxility charges only EU revenue via SRL, the rest goes to LLP which is 20M eur in total.
also, you did not reply to my question.
do you ignore copyright infringement complaints?
what would you do if someone sent copyright infringement complaint to you about a client which uses his own asn and /24, but your network and rack space?
Open up a calculator. 5 million euro is still a shit ton of money.
and which company do you run if you dont mind me asking?
lmfao the absolute audacity of some people
Well, we've just expanded to the US, so stay tuned
As I said and the information can be verified, we doubled our turnover year by year.
Our "sh*thole" country is part of EU, so we follow the EU laws. If we receive a valid report containing all the needed details, we honor it. We however have limited responsibility for ASNs we provide transit to. That's why the ASNs have their own abuse mailboxes and company details declared at RIPE/ARIN,etc. As a comparison if you rent a car and crash it, the renting company is not the one responsible for your behavior. We however work with the local authorities in case there is any investigation undergoing.
Regarding the number of our employees, we work with many partner 3rd party companies. Not all our staff is directly employeed.
Thank you for clarification.
There is big difference to just "providing transit" and colocation service with single-homed ASN(you) just to be able to ignore copyright infringement. You dont think Voxility would keep cashing in that way if that was legal, dont you? You may want to re-check that with proper law office once again.
Anyway, have a nice day and good luck with your venture.
Check the list of home ISP (Ukraine Telecom, Gibirnet Turkey, Tennet Ro, etc) as well as datacenters and hosting providers using our AS6204 as upstream. We don't provide transit to single homed ASNs to hide anything. Of course we also allow our hosting/colo customers to bring their own subnet/ASN and use our network as upstream with or without other upstream networks which is a common practice to all providers.
I might think he wanted to say this:
Correct me if I am wrong @apollo15 .
As much as I don't trust ZET, I have to agree with them, as it seems you guys don't have much experience with this.
As a transit provider, ZET (or any other... telia/cogent), could suspend the service legally only if there is an unpaid service, mutually agreed contract cease or a court order.
Else, the end user's network is responsible for legal issues.
Edit: So, if ZET has in it's contact "you agree not to provide connection service to end-users who transmit copyrighted data", they could suspend the transit as per their mutually agreed policies.
However, that would require a really solid documentation from the reporter, as it's illegal in EU to intercept data. So, ZET alone can't legally determine what you transmit via their fibers.
@Andreix
So what this guys said, are just black words on a white background?
Yep. They pretty much are just words - from what the image shows - as I can't tell if there is any legal document attached to the mail or whats the situation exactly.
Most DMCA reports can - and should - be ignored if they lack official documentation and are just "hereby I tell you to take down X service because its breaking copyright law.
A copyright report should include official documents that state who is the owner of the material, P.O.A. that reporter is authorized to act on behalf of the rights holder, documentation that they made which states the exact URL that is infringing... and so on and so forth.
Such claims can be easily ignored by transit providers as they actually decline the responsibility to the transit service's customer, which would be ultimately liable in court.
If someone sues the transit provider, all they have to do is to forward the contract and contact details of the customer and wait for court decision (suspend or not).
Then, how much does it costs or charging for 10G line @zetservers ?
@zmeu You can mail my colleagues at [email protected] and they will be happy to provide you with a quote.