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  • @ahnlak said:

    @rED said:

    You def need a english lesson 🤣🤣.

    I said they are closed and not I have closed them YET. This place is too dense to discuss anything related to email. Because "ZOMG he is sending EMAIL VIA VPS??? HE = SPAMMER zomg zomg".

    I know there are 1-2 people here that have more than 2 brain cells, so I am just trying to find them.

    People are labelling you a spammer because you're looking to send out >1k emails per domain (spread across multiple accounts to disguise the volume) to a cold selling list.

    It's not because you want to send email via a VPS. It's because you want to send spam.

    Cold emails are relevant to the recipient, and spam emails are not.
    This is an example of cold email:

    Subject: Quick Thought on Growing [SaaS Name]

    Hi [First Name],
    I’ve helped SaaS companies like Loom increase user sign-ups by 37% in 3 weeks. Would you be open to learning more?

    PS: If this is irrelevant to you just tell me to pound sand.
    [NAME]
    Founder @ [Company]
    [LinkedinURL]

    I can send from one domain no problem, only thing is it will take few months to send out email. I am sending from my REAL name and REAL picture so the users will see my Name, picture, company name, linkedin url etc. If I am using 5 domains and all of them have my comapny name, and use my real name for sending, and profile pic in ALL of them I don't see any issue at all?

    Like I said, its difficult to explain anything related to EMAIL to this community because you guys already have a stereotype so there is no sense is explaining more. It's like talking to a wall.

    I mean there are literally billion dollar nasdaq listed companies that is providing relevant data, signals etc and 200k+ businesses utilising cold email outreach legally and successfully but clearly bunch of guys on a forum are experts on something they've never done or know anything remotely about the same.

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  • @rED said:
    Cold emails are relevant to the recipient, and spam emails are not.

    No, your "cold emails" without opt-in are completely unsolicited spam.

  • The end is nigh...

  • Sup mate,

    sorry for all those pathetic loosers hating you for just asking a simple question. The deeper you dig the trench of IT, the deeper peoples social skills will sink. Unfortunately, these creatures cannot remain objective and are trapped in their personal preferences and views, like in a ball of tungsten.

    The cheapest solution would be buying a VPS (Hetzner :smile: ).

    https://mailu.io/2024.06/
    https://setup.mailu.io/2024.06/

    Ofc, you need to security harden this machine, etc. This is the most simple solution I can come up with

  • kevindskevinds Member, LIR
    edited November 2024

    @rED said:
    This is an example of cold email:

    Your example was spam.

    Email spam, also referred to as junk email, spam mail, or simply spam, is unsolicited messages sent in bulk by email.

    For this part,

    @rED said:
    I can send from one domain no problem, only thing is it will take few months to send out email. I am sending from my REAL name and REAL picture so the users will see my Name, picture, company name, linkedin url etc. If I am using 5 domains and all of them have my comapny name, and use my real name for sending, and profile pic in ALL of them I don't see any issue at all?

    1 domain, 5 domains, 50 domains, your "list" will still take the same amount of time to send.

    Just because you don't "see" an issue doesn't mean there isn't one. Everybody here is telling you are (or are trying to be) a spammer, the post I am quoting is confirmation.

    But for further clarification, what is your company and real name?

  • @rED said:
    I will it for instantly.ai email outreach campaigns.

    The only advantage with instantly is for some cold emailing with 365 or gmail accounts.
    Dont expect similar result with your own fresh domains ...
    The only result will be to ban you domain names and the IP server ...

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited November 2024

    @Mik3y326 said:
    Sup mate,

    sorry for all those pathetic loosers hating you for just asking a simple question. The deeper you dig the trench of IT, the deeper peoples social skills will sink. Unfortunately, these creatures cannot remain objective and are trapped in their personal preferences and views, like in a ball of tungsten.

    The cheapest solution would be buying a VPS (Hetzner :smile: ).

    https://mailu.io/2024.06/
    https://setup.mailu.io/2024.06/

    Ofc, you need to security harden this machine, etc. This is the most simple solution I can come up with

    Another email spammer? I don’t know what birthed you things that resemble people but it needs to be quarantined. Spammers aren’t people. Spam isn’t a personal view or subjective. It’s criminal at worst, universally hated by everyone but spammers at best. Same thing as if people came in here asking how to perform a DDOS attack. Unwanted network traffic that interrupts without consent is despised at the very highest level of IT, it’s not some deep trench you have to roll down to find. If that’s news to you, you have been spending too much time in black hat circles where criminal and annoying behaviors are normalized.

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  • @jar said:

    @Mik3y326 said:
    Sup mate,

    sorry for all those pathetic loosers hating you for just asking a simple question. The deeper you dig the trench of IT, the deeper peoples social skills will sink. Unfortunately, these creatures cannot remain objective and are trapped in their personal preferences and views, like in a ball of tungsten.

    The cheapest solution would be buying a VPS (Hetzner :smile: ).

    https://mailu.io/2024.06/
    https://setup.mailu.io/2024.06/

    Ofc, you need to security harden this machine, etc. This is the most simple solution I can come up with

    Another email spammer? I don’t know what birthed you things that resemble people but it needs to be quarantined. Spammers aren’t people. Spam isn’t a personal view or subjective. It’s criminal at worst, universally hated by everyone but spammers at best. Same thing as if people came in here asking how to perform a DDOS attack. Unwanted network traffic that interrupts without consent is despised at the very highest level of IT, it’s not some deep trench you have to roll down to find. If that’s news to you, you have been spending too much time in black hat circles where criminal and annoying behaviors are normalized.

    :smile:

    comparing mail spam to a DDOS attack. Stop trying to high horse me and acting like your radical oppinion is the only acceptable truth. Network traffic without consent? Have you read your pathetic text? Every person draws his or her on line regarding spam. Cold calling can be viewed as spam, ideed, but is the world only black and white?

    A few dacaded ago salesman would go from door to door, then phones came, then e-mail. Thats how ppl. earn their money, it has been that way for ages. Cold calling is and was the base stone of almost every business, from my simple point of view its just a form of advertisement.

    Your so called "nerwork traffic without consent " :smile: :smile: itself is the basis for millions of businesses and jobs (firewalls, spam protection, etc.).

    Spammers gonna spam and pay for servers
    Admins gonna block and get payed
    Companies with the soul purpose of definding spam emmerge and pay people

    its a fckn circle, get used to it, dinosaur

  • @Mik3y326 said:
    Stop trying to high horse me and acting like your radical oppinion is the only acceptable truth

    Well, I use my common sense and I accept @jar 's "radical" opinion as it makes more sense than yours and I reject yours as it makes no fucking sense

    Thanked by 1jar
  • @suyadi92 said:

    @Mik3y326 said:
    Stop trying to high horse me and acting like your radical oppinion is the only acceptable truth

    Well, I use my common sense and I accept @jar 's "radical" opinion as it makes more sense than yours and I reject yours as it makes no fucking sense

    Guess what.. I couldnt care less. In fact im totally fine with that. Having differences in oppinions is a part of life.

    The only thing sickening me is how some users treated this guy only because of that. Being called "subhuman" for asking a simple question. Assuming the worst without knowing or understanding the situation. Demonising for a standard business practice. At this point my use of the word is heavyly inflated, but idgf: pathetic.

  • @Mik3y326 said:
    Guess what.. I couldnt care less . Having differences in oppinions is a part of life

    So why you call someone "radical" for having differences in oppinions then?

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  • @suyadi92 said:

    @Mik3y326 said:
    Guess what.. I couldnt care less . Having differences in oppinions is a part of life

    So why you call someone "radical" for having differences in oppinions then?

    I am not willing to keep this childs game up. This will be my last post. Being called subhuman is a bit radical, dont you think so? Same goes for my previous insult-post, if you insist :wink: .

    Im out. Cheers mate

  • Yeah GTFO and don't come back spammer

    Thanked by 2Mik3y326 jar
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited November 2024

    @Mik3y326 said: radical oppinion

    Oh you're one of those people. Other things you probably think are radical opinions:

    The sky is blue. Water is wet. Wood isn't made of plastic.

    You might be able to gaslight yourself into believing easily defined facts are subjective, and I'm sure you've never had more peers in the qanon generation, but all you're witnessing is the village idiots gaining internet access not a revolution of reality.

    Unsolicited marketing email is spam. People who send it are spammers. The only people who have ever liked spammers are spammers. If you want to live in a made up reality I suggest Meta Quest and a developer account.

    Thanked by 3angstrom amj ahnlak
  • kevindskevinds Member, LIR

    @Mik3y326 said:
    A few dacaded ago salesman would go from door to door, then phones came, then e-mail. Thats how ppl. earn their money, it has been that way for ages. Cold calling is and was the base stone of almost every business, from my simple point of view its just a form of advertisement.

    Door-to-door sales has been banned here, there are exceptions, but very, very few.

    Cold-calling is also touchy.. Big fines have been given for these sales calls.

    Your so called "nerwork traffic without consent " :smile: :smile: itself is the basis for millions of businesses and jobs (firewalls, spam protection, etc.).

    Spammers gonna spam and pay for servers
    Admins gonna block and get payed
    Companies with the soul purpose of definding spam emmerge and pay people

    its a fckn circle, get used to it, dinosaur

    No, we want to break the circle. Would be much happier NOT having to deal with spam emails.

    But your defense for spamming is that you are creating jobs? Seriously, please just stop. The ONLY people who like spam are the senders, no body else wants to deal with it, either receiving it, working on servers processing it, or trying to keep spammers off our networks.

    Thanked by 2jar amj
  • @kevinds said:

    @Mik3y326 said:
    A few dacaded ago salesman would go from door to door, then phones came, then e-mail. Thats how ppl. earn their money, it has been that way for ages. Cold calling is and was the base stone of almost every business, from my simple point of view its just a form of advertisement.

    Door-to-door sales has been banned here, there are exceptions, but very, very few.

    Cold-calling is also touchy.. Big fines have been given for these sales calls.

    Your so called "nerwork traffic without consent " :smile: :smile: itself is the basis for millions of businesses and jobs (firewalls, spam protection, etc.).

    Spammers gonna spam and pay for servers
    Admins gonna block and get payed
    Companies with the soul purpose of definding spam emmerge and pay people

    its a fckn circle, get used to it, dinosaur

    No, we want to break the circle. Would be much happier NOT having to deal with spam emails.

    But your defense for spamming is that you are creating jobs? Seriously, please just stop. The ONLY people who like spam are the senders, no body else wants to deal with it, either receiving it, working on servers processing it, or trying to keep spammers off our networks.

    I honestly did not want to post here anymore. The fuck has led you to the conslusion that I am a spammer? I work in the direct opposite direction, my job even requires me to have no police record of any kind. My shitty self hosted mail relay sends approx. 2 Mails in 6 months. As always, blind hatred has led to the wrong conclusion. Those guys are ensuring my job..

    Sorry, dont want to get my non existing internet reputation get stained by some toxic dinosaurs :smile:.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    dinosaurs

    🤣

    Skibidi rizz Ohio

    Sigma out

    Thanked by 1ahnlak
  • @Mik3y326 said:
    I honestly did not want to post here anymore.

    But....

  • @rED I believe you need to change your approach. Having 2 or 3 emails are enough. Warm them up, use Google Workspace and then put them in SalesForce. Use SalesForce for the deliverability.

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