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Hetzner Outage: Finland - Germany C-Lion cable is cut. (We all know who did it).
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(We all know who did it) what's up with the racist P.O.S title?
Another cable cut between Sweden and Lithuania just now.
https://www.iltalehti.fi/ulkomaat/a/aa87d708-cf00-48fe-9d44-f6eeca621172
https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/2416006/undersea-cable-between-lithuania-and-sweden-damaged-telia
Edit: seems to be NordBalt cable
Nuh, not that I particularly like Finland but banning them from all global markets would be too harsh.
One must try to understand them. After all, Russia's survival depends on, uhm what's the name of the largely irrelevant peripheral country again?, hmm, yes, "Finland", having its internet connection with the continent somewhat disturbed for a week or two.
@Alyx
Thank you! What a pleasure to see someone with a pragmatic realistic take.
As for my take I guess it's either just happenstance or some country's doing. There are a few candidates in the region ... (e.g. baltic micro-nations, poland, ...)
Well at this point.
Its so fucking dumb I have no words at this point. Putin could probly gas half of his country to death and the useful idiots here would argue that hes saving them from suffering instead.
Anti-semitism? )))
cable cuts are the cause
of
of @Amitz
anything blew his eyes and with this tool
Anti-Orcish
Do you or do you not have any solid evidence for Russia being involved?
If not then I suggest to treat the question "who has done it?" as open and to stop insinuating that Russia (or whoever) has done it and first try to find out what exactly happened in the first place.
Don't you find it funny that I don't even need to mention the suspect country before page 2 of this thread and everyone can immediately name the annoyance who has enough time to do shit like this.
No, I don't find that funny. The reason is simple: there have been more than plenty wild - and usually baseless - accusations and insinuations against Russia.
Fact, to the best of my knowledge, is however that there is no evidence whatsoever suggesting who was behind it. Hell, we even don't know yet what exactly has happened. Is the cable cut? The complete cable or just say 2 out of 4 fibers? Or has it only been damaged and if so, what kind of damage?
All we have so far (afaik) is that some measurements indicate a problem in the cable and highly likely meanwhile some optical TDR data are available and hence the (more or less) precise location of the cable problem/damage is known - not (yet) to us though.
In other words, we neither know with some precision what has happened nor where exactly it has happened, let alone who is behind it - or even if there has been some intentional manipulation at all.
So, no basis at all for "certain country" speculation. In your own interest too btw. because imagine how (not only) you'd look like if say, it was a plain stupid accident like some fishing vessel carelessly drag-netting on the sea floor, maybe even a finnish one ...
How much rubles do you get paid for posting on LET?
And how many $$ do you get paid for your helpless and clumsy attempts to smear Russia?
Do you have facts or solid evidence? Nope, you don't. Bless your heart.
NordStream was basically confirmed to be Ukraine, to be clear, right?
I have no idea who’s doing this, but it’s very likely either Russia or Ukraine.
Nope.
Meh. (Yes.)
Is it even possible to "smear" Russia at this point?
I want to believe it was Ukraine, they had every right(legally), but I'm not convinced it was. Who confirmed it and when?
Okay, since everyone wants to play this game.
Affected cables are Germany <-> Finland and Sweden <-> Lithuania.
Both cross each other at some point in Swedish seas.
Both are not critical in itself, since there are plenty of alternatives routes.
How would a state actor benefit from that?
So far, the only effect this has is the annoyance of additional 10ms latency for mostly Hetzner customers
Also worth noting that parts of Russia are connected trough Finland, and therefore they are also affected by it.
HUH? So I guess Russia has every right(legally) to blow up Kiev too.
Umm, I'm not interested in your putler-lover™ wet dreams.
Every right to detonate bombs on swedish soil? What the fuck?
WSJ reported on it, I trust their reporting. Germany also have no incentive to suspect Ukraine and not Russia
It’s always hard to know for sure, but both Ukraine and Russia could gain from this depending om how you think about it.
Russia to show they’re capable of getting to the nordic countries even when they’re in NATO.
Ukraine to try to regain momentum and secure more EU funding by making people scared of Russia.
I'm on neither side. I just take a holistic view and consider everything known to date about the conflict. I know, there are people who love being instrumentalized by the people who rule over them, like this thread's OP judging the title. Anyway, my point stands, your argument that they had any right whatsoever is totally bonkers.
Since when do Russia-haters care about logic and reality? But to answer your question: in theory yes, practically however No, because those who try so far showed a clear lack of the intellectual capability required.
They have exactly NO right whatsoever to attack infrastructure of other countries.
Btw. and again: so far we do not even know if it was an attack at all.
You're free to think whatever you want, I just ain't convinced it was Ukraine and I haven't seen anyone confirming it either.
Yes, not confirmed, likely will never be, but reading the WSJ article convinced me.
Just because they are non critical, doesn't a state actor did not 9/11 them.
Could be just a provocation, the beginning of something bigger.
2 dead cables are no coincidence....
Paranoia detected.
I rarely see posts about Hetzner, but now that there are some, it seems like they're not actually discussing Hetzner itself... As a Hetzner user, I feel a tinge of sadness.