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AS3320 (Deutsche Telekom) Peering Racketeers and EU laws on Net Neutrality

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  • DTAG is just a bunch of incompetent dinosaurs, DTAG is ruined by the government, they also scammed people with the stocks and everything is just a normal German monopolist lobby-ism shit game.

  • k9bangerk9banger Member
    edited November 2024

    When the say 3.5 Terabytes, I take it they mean 3.5 Terabytes per second, per hour, per day?

    I checked it says per second.

    For Meta's large amounts of data – the company feeds a gigantic 3.5 terabytes into Deutsche Telekom's network, which corresponds to about 100,000 HD films and all that per second –

    TBH it doesn't seem much and I'm sure it is all paid for by their customers.

    I wonder how much Cloudflare feeds into the network per second.

  • @k9banger said: per second, per hour, per day?

    which corresponds to about 100,000 HD films and all that per second

    Thanked by 1k9banger
  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @kait said:

    @k9banger said: per second, per hour, per day?

    which corresponds to about 100,000 HD films and all that per second

    so much porn

  • @UrDN said:
    It's been known for some time that AS3320 (Deutsche Telekom/DTAG/DT/Telekom.de) has reinforced their Peering Extortion Policy, this consists in demanding astronomical money for direct interconnection while any normal ISP would do this free of charge. It's mesmerizing that a German court even told Meta/Facebook that it's ok for DTAG to do this [0].

    The situation has become so bad that DTAG customers tell us that saturation are now round the clock and that even low bandwidth activities are very painful to do.

    We're no fan of global dictatorships, but this to us, looks like a blatant violation of the EU directives on Net Neutrality; so the question is, how could a court of such a great and examplary Free and Democratic country that is Germany, approves of DTAG's behavior? Isn't this blatant corruption?

    PS: DTAG customers, we encourage you to submit them complaints.

    [0] https://about.fb.com/news/2024/09/why-were-having-to-end-our-direct-peering-relationship-with-deutsche-telekom/

    Funny... I just canceled my long term contract I had since 2009 because I got pissed of bad peering. For example, when playing online games I had like 15 to 20 percent packet loss.

    Luckily we have a local provider that has open peering and much better uplinks.

  • @nobizzle said: Luckily we have a local provider that has open peering and much better uplinks.

    Which one would that be? (AsN?)

  • nobizzlenobizzle Member
    edited November 2024

    @kait said:

    @nobizzle said: Luckily we have a local provider that has open peering and much better uplinks.

    Which one would that be? (AsN?)

    NetCologne

    https://www.peeringdb.com/net/99

  • @nobizzle said:

    @kait said:

    @nobizzle said: Luckily we have a local provider that has open peering and much better uplinks.

    Which one would that be? (AsN?)

    NetCologne

    https://www.peeringdb.com/net/99

    Damn, that is cool, no DTAG at all (behind RETN) thanks for this information habibi.

  • @nobizzle said: Luckily we have a local provider that has open peering and much better uplinks.

    Lucky indeed, most victims are telling us they don't have that opportunity.

  • @UrDN said:

    @nobizzle said: Luckily we have a local provider that has open peering and much better uplinks.

    Lucky indeed, most victims are telling us they don't have that opportunity.

    When it comes to internet service providers, people are usually very patient and avoid switching providers. There is always a bit of fear that other things might stop working, but overall, the time has come to switch and show Telekom that things can't continue this way.

  • AlyxAlyx Member, Host Rep

    Additionally, it's worth noting that most Telekom customers can switch to other providers. While the last mile is often still operated by Telekom, most other DSL providers can offer services on it through bitstream access, and they typically run their own IP networks.

    This means that issues caused by poor peering can certainly be resolved.

    However, as nobizzle mentioned, many hesitate to switch because it's often a hassle :/

  • @kait said: Yeah thats what I am planning, or a cheaper T2 that has DTAG.

    AS33891 (Core-Backbone) is a T2 with good connectivity to DTAG but dunno the prices..

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