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  • @MassiveGRID said:

    @ascicode said:
    Where did you hosted before 2016, if your allocation and IP lease went through that time?

    We started using other providers, but due to limitations and other reasons we decided to build our own Infrastructures and High Availability architecture mostly on Equinix Datacenters.

    All 3 locations from this offer are on Equinix datacenters?

    Thanked by 1MassiveGRID
  • MassiveGRIDMassiveGRID Member, Patron Provider

    @gbzret4d said:
    @MassiveGRID
    invoice number: 1965812
    order number: 6001353369
    please add one year

    Done!

    Due date extended to October of 2028. Please check and let us know.

    Also, the special offer pricing has been locked for your service and for any upgrades, for life!

    Thank you for choosing MassiveGRID

    Thanked by 1gbzret4d
  • tuctuc Member

    Wow! my wallet is hurt ;)

  • MassiveGRIDMassiveGRID Member, Patron Provider

    @hula said:
    My Order Number is: Invoice #1965966

    Please extend my vps for 4th year and price locking.

    Thanks.

    Done!

    Due date extended to October of 2028. Please check and let us know.

    Also, the special offer pricing has been locked for your service and for any upgrades, for life!

    Thank you for choosing MassiveGRID

  • MassiveGRIDMassiveGRID Member, Patron Provider

    @millkiss said:
    Order Number : 8380394945
    Update pls.
    Thank you!

    Done!

    Due date extended to October of 2028. Please check and let us know.

    Also, the special offer pricing has been locked for your service and for any upgrades, for life!

    Thank you for choosing MassiveGRID

  • @tuc said:
    Wow! my wallet is hurt ;)

    Already?! In 39 days will be Black Friday. Will you have time to make your wallet feel better until then?

    Thanked by 1tuc
  • MetroVPS_NMPMetroVPS_NMP Host Rep, Veteran

    Hello,

    Is it possible to upgrade to the next plan retaining the offer price ??

    Such as buying 1 vCore XEON - 1 GB RAM - 32 GB H/A SSD & upgrading later to 1 vCore XEON - 2 GB RAM - 32 GB H/A SSD or 2 vCore XEON - 4 GB RAM - 128 GB H/A SSD ??

    Thanked by 1MassiveGRID
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @Mahfuz_SS_EHL said: Is it possible to upgrade to the next plan retaining the offer price ??

    Just read the thread

  • MassiveGRIDMassiveGRID Member, Patron Provider

    @YanamiAnna said:

    Invoice #1965977 Waiting for FOURTH

    The FOURTH is with YOU!

    Due date extended to October of 2028. Please check and let us know.

    Also, the special offer pricing has been locked for your service and for any upgrades, for life!

    Thank you for choosing MassiveGRID

  • MassiveGRIDMassiveGRID Member, Patron Provider

    @Rolukk said:
    Your Order Number is: 4301191214
    Your Order Number is: 4456532918
    Please extend my vps for 4th year and price locking.
    Thanks.

    Done!

    Both due dates extended to October of 2028. Please check and let us know.

    Also, the special offer pricing has been locked for your services and for any upgrades, for life!

    Thank you for choosing MassiveGRID

  • MassiveGRIDMassiveGRID Member, Patron Provider

    @mteam said:
    invoice # 1965994 waiting for 4th

    The FOURTH is with YOU!

    Due date extended to October of 2028. Please check and let us know.

    Also, the special offer pricing has been locked for your service and for any upgrades, for life!

    Thank you for choosing MassiveGRID

  • @dev_vps said:

    @Falzo said:

    @dev_vps said:

    crappy snail disk IO basically extremely limits the use cases for the VPS

    I think you are not fair. 1k iops on read and write might not be a lot, but it's more than every regular harddisk offers. Same goes for 300MB/s. If the limits help to get this in a stable manner, that's for sure better than having it drop far below that in an unpredictable pattern.

    Check the disk iops

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda3):
    
    Block Size    4k (IOPS)   64k (IOPS)
    Read  3.97 MB/s (993) 63.75 MB/s (996)
    Write 4.00 MB/s (1.0k)    64.18 MB/s (1.0k)
    Total 7.97 MB/s (1.9k)    127.94 MB/s (1.9k)
    Block Size    512k (IOPS) 1m (IOPS)
    ------    --- ----    ---- ----
    Read  146.90 MB/s (286)   145.38 MB/s (141)
    Write 154.71 MB/s (302)   155.06 MB/s (151)
    Total 301.61 MB/s (588)   300.45 MB/s (292)
    

    I did. Perfectly fine as you can see, you can reach up to 2k iops (read/write combined) on small blocksizes or up to 300MB/s on sequential stuff (large blocksize)

    If you don't understand how disk performance works and IOps vs MBs are related, better don't play judge of it 😉

    In comparison a single harddrive used to offer up to about 200 iops in 4k and maybe 200MBs sequential. Of course only roughly and dependant on the model and so on.

    Still this virtual disk offers quite some more performance.

    Are there lot of offers from other providers that don't limit and spoil users with cached nvme in large raids. Of course. Are those available at this price point combined with the other ressources, no.

    Just saying. There might be a lot "suspicious" about this whole thing.
    The price/performance just is not it. Including the disk.

    I bought one 1c/2G like @jsg just because.
    So far it's usable. Not the fastest VM I have nor the slowest. And because of the set limits and stuff I am actually even more convinced this provider actually has some idea about what he is doing, instead of diving blindly into the lowend abyss.

    Doesn't mean I trust it will uphold the whole distance. I do love some good drama. But lets try to be fair. Disk is mediocre. Nothing more, nothing less. If need be, reach out and ask them to raise the limits.

    Thanked by 2MassiveGRID dev_vps
  • MassiveGRIDMassiveGRID Member, Patron Provider

    @emgh said:

    @MassiveGRID said:

    @ascicode said:
    Quite overselling isn't? How do you get that price? Why did you get absent since 2021?
    https://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1411847&highlight=massivegrid comparing this to now, still Tier4?

    MassiveGRID is back! :smile:

    It's a similar feeling with the one we had when we started as MassiveGRID in April 2014 :smile:

    We have very good prices (this offer is extremely good) due to the efficiencies we have.

    PS: Tier-4 in that offer is the Datacenter grade. We now have mostly Equinix which we consider the best in the world.

    London, NY & Frankfurt are all Equinix?

    NY & Frankfurt are Equinix also the rest planned locations will all be Equinix as well.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • MassiveGRIDMassiveGRID Member, Patron Provider

    @ascicode said:

    @emgh said:

    @MassiveGRID said:

    @ascicode said:
    Quite overselling isn't? How do you get that price? Why did you get absent since 2021?
    https://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1411847&highlight=massivegrid comparing this to now, still Tier4?

    MassiveGRID is back! :smile:

    It's a similar feeling with the one we had when we started as MassiveGRID in April 2014 :smile:

    We have very good prices (this offer is extremely good) due to the efficiencies we have.

    PS: Tier-4 in that offer is the Datacenter grade. We now have mostly Equinix which we consider the best in the world.

    London, NY & Frankfurt are all Equinix?

    London isn't or isn't listed on website offer.

    It is listed

  • Order Number: 4394672389
    Please extend for 4th year and price locking.
    Thanks!

    Thanked by 1MassiveGRID
  • tuctuc Member

    @MassiveGRID any plan for west coast?

    Thanked by 1MassiveGRID
  • Order Number: 4562269800
    Please extend for 4th year and price locking.
    Thanks!

    Thanked by 1MassiveGRID
  • @default said: too good to be true

    Yes, I was tempted by this fantastic offer, but I already have 2 VPS idling, so I decided to wait until Black Friday.

    "Too good to be true" was my first thought too. Yet only time will tell, I hope we will be proved wrong in 2028.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @MassiveGRID said:

    @ascicode said:

    @emgh said:

    @MassiveGRID said:

    @ascicode said:
    Quite overselling isn't? How do you get that price? Why did you get absent since 2021?
    https://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1411847&highlight=massivegrid comparing this to now, still Tier4?

    MassiveGRID is back! :smile:

    It's a similar feeling with the one we had when we started as MassiveGRID in April 2014 :smile:

    We have very good prices (this offer is extremely good) due to the efficiencies we have.

    PS: Tier-4 in that offer is the Datacenter grade. We now have mostly Equinix which we consider the best in the world.

    London, NY & Frankfurt are all Equinix?

    London isn't or isn't listed on website offer.

    It is listed

    I think @ascicode meant that London wasn't listed to be Equinix on the order form

    Thanked by 1MassiveGRID
  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited October 2024

    That's why I don't do what many do. It just happens too often that "nice" but fairy tale numbers come out. Same with iperf, the problem being that hardly anyone really uses icmp all day long and, to top it off, to provider/carrier/etc. "sponsored" target servers ...

    And the list goes on. Maybe I'm irritating some people who consider me too skeptical but the truth is that with at least way too many companies (carriers, providers, etc.) the game is "sell! sell! sell!" plus "who cares how? As long as sales come in everything - incl. trickery of all sorts - is OK".

    My approach is quite different. I wanna know real world performance, I wanna know how much data I can move per second with the kind of usage that is normal, how many IOps I can really achieve, etc.

    I know that benchmarking more often than not can't be really fair. For example, of bloody course everyone and their dog benchmark the crap out of their new VPS, ergo when I do so, too, what I benchmark isn't a node with normal everyday usage but a node under heavy stress. On the other hand my benchmark makes small pauses in between slices of work to be a "good neighbour".
    Whatever, tell me that my VPS which I measured having a bit over 200 IOps actually (on a good day without lots of people torturing the disk) actually has 300, hell, even 400, I'll let it pass - but telling me about 1000 IOps (or even more) is just plain BS in my eyes, sorry. I'm not saying that e.g. @Falzo is lying, no, I trust that he truthfully reports what fio or whatever showed to him, but I don't believe for one second that those numbers reflect the reality. And the fact that quite a few of these tools report "combined" numbers (e.g. read and write disk) confirms my take, because like it or not, disk either read or write at any given moment, so I take such numbers to be "number porn" fairy tales.

    Btw, many also seem to over-estimate the influence of "everyone and his dog running a benchmark". I see that as latency vs. throughput - and both at the end of the day boil down to the same ("closely related") and most importantly not changing wrt a drive. You see, a drive can do x reads, y writes per second and, seen from the disk, everything is done in sectors (which btw on modern disks aren't 512 bytes anymore. It's the OS (and possibly, when used, the controller) that creates the impression that one can read or write say, 1 MB blocks. The true reason for those to be faster is sectors distance or in other words, less moving the going to some sector and hence more "payload" throughput.
    So, the actual effect of "everyone and his dog running a benchmark" simply is a kind of supply and demand situation, with demand much higher than supply and hence some slowdown but certainly not by a factor 5. Don't under-estimate how smart and optimized OSs nowadays are!

    TL;DR I don't care a flying fuck about these or those "theoretical" (in my view) numbers. What I care about and try to measure is what a customer/user that is, we(!), can realistically Expect from a given VPS.

    Also: NO provider can do miracles! There's only so much you can offer or get for about 12$ per year. Simple as that. And everyone on LET would be well advised to keep that fact in mind!

    IMO we do get a not-bad-at-all deal from @MassiveGRID but they too have to at least break even and hence to cut some corners.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    wow

  • MassiveGRIDMassiveGRID Member, Patron Provider

    @YanamiAnna said:
    Invoice #1965977 Waiting for FOURTH :'(

    The FOURTH is with YOU!

    Due date extended to October of 2028. Please check and let us know.

    Also, the special offer pricing has been locked for your service and for any upgrades, for life!

    Thank you for choosing MassiveGRID

  • MassiveGRIDMassiveGRID Member, Patron Provider

    @kedihacker said:
    Order number: 4849574893
    Thank you for the deal. Only down side is no illegal 😑.

    Yeah, we comply with the law :smile:

    The special offer pricing has been locked for your service and for any upgrades, for life!

    Thank you for choosing MassiveGRID

  • @Falzo said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @Falzo said:

    @dev_vps said:

    crappy snail disk IO basically extremely limits the use cases for the VPS

    I think you are not fair. 1k iops on read and write might not be a lot, but it's more than every regular harddisk offers. Same goes for 300MB/s. If the limits help to get this in a stable manner, that's for sure better than having it drop far below that in an unpredictable pattern.

    Check the disk iops

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda3):
    
    Block Size  4k (IOPS)   64k (IOPS)
    Read    3.97 MB/s (993) 63.75 MB/s (996)
    Write   4.00 MB/s (1.0k)    64.18 MB/s (1.0k)
    Total   7.97 MB/s (1.9k)    127.94 MB/s (1.9k)
    Block Size  512k (IOPS) 1m (IOPS)
    ------  --- ----    ---- ----
    Read    146.90 MB/s (286)   145.38 MB/s (141)
    Write   154.71 MB/s (302)   155.06 MB/s (151)
    Total   301.61 MB/s (588)   300.45 MB/s (292)
    

    I did. Perfectly fine as you can see, you can reach up to 2k iops (read/write combined) on small blocksizes or up to 300MB/s on sequential stuff (large blocksize)

    If you don't understand how disk performance works and IOps vs MBs are related, better don't play judge of it 😉

    In comparison a single harddrive used to offer up to about 200 iops in 4k and maybe 200MBs sequential. Of course only roughly and dependant on the model and so on.

    Still this virtual disk offers quite some more performance.

    Thanks @Falzo
    Your opinion and feedback is much appreciated.

  • Order number: 8582941293
    Thank you!

    Thanked by 1MassiveGRID
  • @MassiveGRID

    Order Number: 4466899701

    Thank you.

    Thanked by 1MassiveGRID
  • @jsg said:
    That's why I don't do what many do. It just happens too often that "nice" but fairy tale numbers come out. Same with iperf, the problem being that hardly anyone really uses icmp all day long and, to top it off, to provider/carrier/etc. "sponsored" target servers ...

    And the list goes on. Maybe I'm irritating some people who consider me too skeptical but the truth is that with at least way too many companies (carriers, providers, etc.) the game is "sell! sell! sell!" plus "who cares how? As long as sales come in everything - incl. trickery of all sorts - is OK".

    My approach is quite different. I wanna know real world performance, I wanna know how much data I can move per second with the kind of usage that is normal, how many IOps I can really achieve, etc.

    I know that benchmarking more often than not can't be really fair. For example, of bloody course everyone and their dog benchmark the crap out of their new VPS, ergo when I do so, too, what I benchmark isn't a node with normal everyday usage but a node under heavy stress. On the other hand my benchmark makes small pauses in between slices of work to be a "good neighbour".
    Whatever, tell me that my VPS which I measured having a bit over 200 IOps actually (on a good day without lots of people torturing the disk) actually has 300, hell, even 400, I'll let it pass - but telling me about 1000 IOps (or even more) is just plain BS in my eyes, sorry. I'm not saying that e.g. @Falzo is lying, no, I trust that he truthfully reports what fio or whatever showed to him, but I don't believe for one second that those numbers reflect the reality. And the fact that quite a few of these tools report "combined" numbers (e.g. read and write disk) confirms my take, because like it or not, disk either read or write at any given moment, so I take such numbers to be "number porn" fairy tales.

    Btw, many also seem to over-estimate the influence of "everyone and his dog running a benchmark". I see that as latency vs. throughput - and both at the end of the day boil down to the same ("closely related") and most importantly not changing wrt a drive. You see, a drive can do x reads, y writes per second and, seen from the disk, everything is done in sectors (which btw on modern disks aren't 512 bytes anymore. It's the OS (and possibly, when used, the controller) that creates the impression that one can read or write say, 1 MB blocks. The true reason for those to be faster is sectors distance or in other words, less moving the going to some sector and hence more "payload" throughput.
    So, the actual effect of "everyone and his dog running a benchmark" simply is a kind of supply and demand situation, with demand much higher than supply and hence some slowdown but certainly not by a factor 5. Don't under-estimate how smart and optimized OSs nowadays are!

    TL;DR I don't care a flying fuck about these or those "theoretical" (in my view) numbers. What I care about and try to measure is what a customer/user that is, we(!), can realistically Expect from a given VPS.

    Also: NO provider can do miracles! There's only so much you can offer or get for about 12$ per year. Simple as that. And everyone on LET would be well advised to keep that fact in mind!

    IMO we do get a not-bad-at-all deal from @MassiveGRID but they too have to at least break even and hence to cut some corners.

    Thank god someone on here understands latency vs throughput

    The disk really does achieve the limit of 1000 IOPS in a long term latency test via ioping, none of the fully loaded throughput-centric fio/yabs bullshit

    Thanked by 1jsg
  • I read the thread out of curiosity and I am confused. Several people have reported that they had to use the same password to access their servers. How is that not a red flag? I am surprised to see that many orders, if they are all real.

    Congrats to @MassiveGRID though, the first offer is definitely a shocker

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @vitobotta said: I am surprised to see that many orders

    Really? For a sub 0.50/mo offer when paid every 4 years WITH an IPv4?

    Thanked by 1jsg
  • @emgh said:

    @vitobotta said: I am surprised to see that many orders

    Really? For a sub 0.50/mo offer when paid every 4 years WITH an IPv4?

    Surprised due to the password issue, regardless of the price

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