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  • darkimmortaldarkimmortal Member
    edited October 2024

    Network seems a bit congested in London, speeds anywhere 100-500mbit with high tcp retries to a 10G server 1ms away

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  • swindturswindtur Member

    @anubhavhirani said:

    Where do these bot accounts randomly show up? and they keep commenting same or random invoice number in some provider's thread, I have not seen such bots in other solid and reliable providers, to name a few: Namecrane, ExtraVM, Greencloud and HostHatch.

    I can find many such accounts in Racknerd's thread too, yesterday I came across an account that only comments on Racknerd's thread and has like 600 or so comments only asking to doublt the bandwidth with random invoice numbers which are not even in serial order, I will be adding screenshot to that account in a bit if I can find.

    I am not a zombie account, I just made a mistake and repeated the comment, I have already applied for a refund..

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  • TutankhamunTutankhamun Member

    Order Number: 8006429132
    Please extend my vps for 4th year and price locking.
    Thanks.

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  • AsunalAsunal Member

    Invoice #1965833

    Please extend my vps for 4th year and price locking.
    Thanks.

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  • zhuyezhuye Member

    @swindtur said:

    @anubhavhirani said:

    Where do these bot accounts randomly show up? and they keep commenting same or random invoice number in some provider's thread, I have not seen such bots in other solid and reliable providers, to name a few: Namecrane, ExtraVM, Greencloud and HostHatch.

    I can find many such accounts in Racknerd's thread too, yesterday I came across an account that only comments on Racknerd's thread and has like 600 or so comments only asking to doublt the bandwidth with random invoice numbers which are not even in serial order, I will be adding screenshot to that account in a bit if I can find.

    I am not a zombie account, I just made a mistake and repeated the comment, I have already applied for a refund..

    Why the refund? Can you tell me?

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  • lianshitonglianshitong Member

    Your Order Number is: Invoice #1965836

    I’m waiting for 4th

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  • anubhavhiranianubhavhirani Member

    @swindtur said:

    @anubhavhirani said:

    Where do these bot accounts randomly show up? and they keep commenting same or random invoice number in some provider's thread, I have not seen such bots in other solid and reliable providers, to name a few: Namecrane, ExtraVM, Greencloud and HostHatch.

    I can find many such accounts in Racknerd's thread too, yesterday I came across an account that only comments on Racknerd's thread and has like 600 or so comments only asking to doublt the bandwidth with random invoice numbers which are not even in serial order, I will be adding screenshot to that account in a bit if I can find.

    I am not a zombie account, I just made a mistake and repeated the comment, I have already applied for a refund..

    Well, that's funny, thanks for clarifying.

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  • swindturswindtur Member

    @zhuye said:

    @swindtur said:

    @anubhavhirani said:

    Where do these bot accounts randomly show up? and they keep commenting same or random invoice number in some provider's thread, I have not seen such bots in other solid and reliable providers, to name a few: Namecrane, ExtraVM, Greencloud and HostHatch.

    I can find many such accounts in Racknerd's thread too, yesterday I came across an account that only comments on Racknerd's thread and has like 600 or so comments only asking to doublt the bandwidth with random invoice numbers which are not even in serial order, I will be adding screenshot to that account in a bit if I can find.

    I am not a zombie account, I just made a mistake and repeated the comment, I have already applied for a refund..

    Why the refund? Can you tell me?

    The IP quality is pretty good, it's just that I feel like I can't use it much..... Just bought one in New York, the delay for Beijing Unicom is around 270ms. Maybe the mentality is to buy it while it's cheap, and test it out first...

    The translation used is from OpenAI.

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  • bobebobe Member
    edited October 2024

    Your Order Number is: 3404204157
    I’m waiting for 4th for 4th year and price locking

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  • SniffingsugarSniffingsugar Member

    Order ID: 1064962190
    Please extend to the 4th year and price lock

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  • defaultdefault Veteran
    edited October 2024

    Maybe I have some serious issues, but I am old enough on LET to see when something is too good to be true.

    1. The owner tries to pose as some marketing expert. He wants to look like experienced in startups, but listening to the guy talk one can see the mask presented; for example with principles of hiring characters, not skill, denoting work entry exploitation and crunch culture behind.
    2. The offer is their first offer on LET, after 21 years. Nobody knows how LET was not aware of them for so long. Hence it is safe to assume this info of 21 years is untrue.
    3. The offer is a wall of text, as if we're some kind of newbies, specifically designed to boost views and SEO.
    4. The offer has no monthly price to compare it to. It only starts with annually on their first offer on LET which is great, then drops price by 40% if bought for 4 years. It is like they want me to look intensively at those 4 years.
    5. Their very first offer here has the fear of missing out psychology ("THIS DEAL WON'T LAST FOREVER—GRAB IT BEFORE IT'S GONE!") in bold header text, designed specifically to catch attention and make you pay for 4 years.
    6. There is no other such offer on their website and can't find similar crazy offers online from this provider. This is their very first post on LET and very first offer of such kind.
    7. The offer is posted right when people need it the most, before Black Friday, as many are oscillating between renewals or possibly waiting for Black Friday deals. The provider clearly wants my money.
    8. This offer is so crazy it beats many Black Friday deals, to make sure it attracts customers. We can see something like this on Black Friday, but in limited quantity (bots grab it and we know the pain). Here this offer is given so easily and in abundance.
    9. The offer is still standing and working great, hence the company knows what is doing. Normally they would be out of stock if offer is legit as provider is caught in surprise by demand. And yet, there's plenty. It is like provider made a huge investment with many dedicated servers available and prepared for a huge sale of this magnitude (21 years behind... yeah right).
    10. The offer is unsustainable. There is a recession in the west and we know it from the cost of living. Such offer can't be kept for 4 years in current market. One could say they gamble on things to change - the founder has an self-suggested ideology of pressure as if one should be happy about being pressured now, for they are stronger later. They don't care about any recession.
    11. Random bots here are posting invoices as other have noticed, all to keep thread up in frontpage and gain even more SEO though LET.
    12. Such kind of offers (not for 4 years though) could have been seen from Virmach in the past as an example. But Virmach had to seriously cut costs from support offered, clearly notifying the customers. Here the provider offers not just simple support, but "Managed Server Support" for free on their ordering page. We all know stuff like this can't come at such price point.
    13. The offer violates the rules of LET. According to our rules "for businesses older than one year the maximum term is three (3) years", yet the offer is clearly calculated at 4 years because "3Y Price: $23.98 = $0.49/month" is actually $0.666/month. This was done on purpose and it is a misinformation as it includes the 4th year in offer, bending the 3 years rule of LET in its info.

    The whole thing does not stand in my opinion. People who made the offer are simply smart, but smart people don't get paid with peanuts; therefore it is a scam made by smart people for fast gain in my opinion. I strongly hope to be proven wrong in 4 years; I want to be proven wrong in 4 years. But in my opinion: support, abusers and rising price of electricity will eat this provider alive.

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  • AiHubOneAiHubOne Member

    Invoice #1965830

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  • truemagictruemagic Member

    Order Number is: 4447047577

    Please extend my vps for 4th year and price locking.

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  • alexyangalexyang Member

    My Order Number is: 7477367798
    Please extend my vps for 4th year and price locking.
    Thanks.

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  • anubhavhiranianubhavhirani Member

    @default said:
    Maybe I have some serious issues, but I am old enough on LET to see when something is too good to be true.

    1. The owner tries to pose as some marketing expert. He wants to look like experienced in startups, but listening to the guy talk one can see the mask presented; for example with principles of hiring characters, not skill, denoting work entry exploitation and crunch culture behind.
    2. The offer is their first offer on LET, after 21 years. Nobody knows how LET was not aware of them for so long. Hence it is safe to assume this info of 21 years is untrue.
    3. The offer is a wall of text, as if we're some kind of newbies, specifically designed to boost views and SEO.
    4. The offer has no monthly price to compare it to. It only starts with annually on their first offer on LET which is great, then drops price by 40% if bought for 4 years. It is like they want me to look intensively at those 4 years.
    5. Their very first offer here has the fear of missing out psychology ("THIS DEAL WON'T LAST FOREVER—GRAB IT BEFORE IT'S GONE!") in bold header text, designed specifically to catch attention and make you pay for 4 years.
    6. There is no other such offer on their website and can't find similar crazy offers online from this provider. This is their very first post on LET and very first offer of such kind.
    7. The offer is posted right when people need it the most, before Black Friday, as many are oscillating between renewals or possibly waiting for Black Friday deals. The provider clearly wants my money.
    8. This offer is so crazy it beats many Black Friday deals, to make sure it attracts customers. We can see something like this on Black Friday, but in limited quantity (bots grab it and we know the pain). Here this offer is given so easily and in abundance.
    9. The offer is still standing and working great, hence the company knows what is doing. Normally they would be out of stock if offer is legit as provider is caught in surprise by demand. And yet, there's plenty. It is like provider made a huge investment with many dedicated servers available and prepared for a huge sale of this magnitude (21 years behind... yeah right).
    10. The offer is unsustainable. There is a recession in the west and we know it from the cost of living. Such offer can't be kept for 4 years in current market. One could say they gamble on things to change - the founder has an self-suggested ideology of pressure as if one should be happy about being pressured now, for they are stronger later. They don't care about any recession.
    11. Random bots here are posting invoices as other have noticed, all to keep thread up in frontpage and gain even more SEO though LET.
    12. Such kind of offers (not for 4 years though) could have been seen from Virmach in the past as an example. But Virmach had to seriously cut costs from support offered, clearly notifying the customers. Here the provider offers not just simple support, but "Managed Server Support" for free on their ordering page. We all know stuff like this can't come at such price point.
    13. The offer violates the rules of LET. According to our rules "for businesses older than one year the maximum term is three (3) years", yet the offer is clearly calculated at 4 years because "3Y Price: $23.98 = $0.49/month" is actually $0.666/month. This was done on purpose and it is a misinformation as it includes the 4th year in offer, bending the 3 years rule of LET in its info.

    The whole thing does not stand in my opinion. People who made the offer are simply smart, but smart people don't get paid with peanuts; therefore it is a scam made by smart people for fast gain in my opinion. I strongly hope to be proven wrong in 4 years; I want to be proven wrong in 4 years. But in my opinion: support, abusers and rising price of electricity will eat this provider alive.

    I have raised the same concern in comments before and I am guessing this provider will stop existing very soon.

    Thanked by 2MassiveGRID ServerBachelor
  • KrisKris Member

    @default said: The whole thing does not stand in my opinion. People who made the offer are simply smart, but smart people don't get paid with peanuts; therefore it is a scam made by smart people for fast gain in my opinion. I strongly hope to be proven wrong in 4 years; I want to be proven wrong in 4 years. But in my opinion: support, abusers and rising price of electricity will eat this provider alive.

    Feeling a bit of the same way, but Equinix Secaucus was where I want to be.

    First impressions are good bandwidth, albeit very Cogent heavy - almost exclusively with a dash of GTT.

    CPU limited to hell (400-500 on a gold) which may be good for this type of deal.

    I do however see their IP ranges becoming useless in APAC within 30-60 days at most due to MJJ usage and god knows what.

    Also seeing the issues ph24 has with shitminers, maybe this strict CPU limit is good. IOPS seems hard limited too and could be their saving grace?

    It works perfectly fine for Wireguard. Now just to find out where to set rDNS.

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  • CaztielCaztiel Member

    @anubhavhirani said:

    @default said:
    The whole thing does not stand in my opinion. People who made the offer are simply smart, but smart people don't get paid with peanuts; therefore it is a scam made by smart people for fast gain in my opinion. I strongly hope to be proven wrong in 4 years; I want to be proven wrong in 4 years. But in my opinion: support, abusers and rising price of electricity will eat this provider alive.

    I have raised the same concern in comments before and I am guessing this provider will stop existing very soon.

    Bigger question to me, how can they afford this when company is running in huge losses ?

    https://open.endole.co.uk/insight/company/10200892-massivegrid-ltd

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  • hyunhyun Member

    Order Number: 6543081248
    Please extend my vps for 4th year and price locking.
    Thanks.

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  • silunsilun Member

    @default There is a price to compare to of sorts, if you will:

    https://www.serverhunter.com/offer/massivegrid-inc-limited-offer-from-massivegrid-xeon-e5-2683v4-kvm-frankfurt-8/visit/

    This is the 2024 offer that has been around for some months now. It works for monthly as well, but they do not offer price lock-in for upgrading later (though as I understand if you don't change specs, it will stay at that price). You can check out the rising savings from monthly to triennially there.

    To be honest, if the LET offer is the first you see, I understand that you feel it's a predatory BUY NOW OR LOSE OUT type of thing, but since they have very comparable offers already out and available for some time, it doesn't strike me as predatory at all. I do hope that their model is sustainable overall, especially since their scalability niche is something that is rarely found elsewhere. They don't technically have to make money on the LET deal specifically, mind you.

    You can also check their regular pricing on their site which is quite a bit higher.

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  • silunsilun Member

    @Kris Their CPU scores in GB6 seem to vary, some people have been posting 1k scores and others have about 500. My own scores vary from 500 - 700. It is about on par with what you get for 1€ per month at Strato, though Strato is 2(?) gbit but not HA.

    You can set rDNS under Domains -> Manage DNS -> Manage Reverse DNS on the top right.

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  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited October 2024

    FWIW I just published a review in a new thread (not here because of the bot-like shit show here). Here you find the review https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/198672/a-quick-review-benchmark-of-massivegrid-promo-vps

    @default said:
    [lots of points]

    I don't agree but neither do I strictly disagree. Yes, there's always some risk with that kind of offers (multi-year), even with providers considered as reputable, and yes again, @MassiveGRID isn't a well established provider here (yet?), so I can understand your view.

    1. The offer violates the rules of LET. According to our rules "for businesses older than one year the maximum term is three (3) years", yet the offer is clearly calculated at 4 years because "3Y Price: $23.98 = $0.49/month" is actually $0.666/month. This was done on purpose and it is a misinformation as it includes the 4th year in offer, bending the 3 years rule of LET in its info.

    Nuh, I disagree. The offer actually is for 3 years. The 4th year is a "free bonus" and AFAIK the LET rules don't forbid adding "free bonuses". The paid term is 3 years, period.

    All in all I agree that the offer is in, I'll call it "the grey zone" and evidently timed for maximum sales - which however may be considered bad taste but is absolutely legal.
    For me personally the main point was this: If that VPS stays alive for 3 (or even 4) years it's a good deal, if only for 2 years it's not a bad deal, if only for 1 year, OK it's a bad deal, and even less than 1 year it clearly is a bad deal - but then, what would I loose worst case? About $35; I can live with that, especially when I see no strong warning signs.

    My guess is that that company kind of halfway stagnated for quite a few years but somehow got their hands on a good hardware deal and went all in, probably not aiming for lots of profit but rather for gaining a larger customer base and better visibility.

    TL;DR: While I can understand your opinion and partly share it I think your view is to harsh and pessimistic (but of course I may find out to be utterly wrong). At the end of the day I think "no risk no gain" and "give a reasonable chance first, judge only after some time".

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  • dingzierdingzier Member

    Order Number: 1965847
    Please extend my vps for 4th year and price locking.

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  • bobebobe Member
    edited October 2024

    Invoice #1965859
    Please extend my vps for 4th year and price locking
    #1965842
    My first order Invoice has not been confirmed yet.
    Please extend my vps for 4th year and price locking

  • zybcmzybcm Member

    Order Number: 8372718345
    thanks

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  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited October 2024

    @jsg said:

    My guess is that that company kind of halfway stagnated for quite a few years but somehow got their hands on a good hardware deal and went all in, probably not aiming for lots of profit but rather for gaining a larger customer base and better visibility.

    May be they are thinking of selling the business in next 12-18 months and trying to increase customer base to increase the business valuation.

    BTW — I was offered one month free trial from them in April this year.

    And this was the monthly plan
    4 vCore Xeon
    4 GB
    64 GB storage
    $29.12 per month

    I believe there was a discount code for 60% off. So net would be around $11 per month.

    Now compare the current offer and draw your own conclusions

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  • cheekd2scheekd2s Member

    Order Number: 1711642241
    Please extend my vps for 4th year and price locking.
    Thanks.

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  • faleddofaleddo Member

    Invoice #1965760

  • amaeva080amaeva080 Member

    @MassiveGRID - If we purchase the 3 year plan, we get the 4th year bonus.
    Does the same happen on the next renewal of 3 years too? Or is it one time.

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  • planktonplankton Member

    Invoice #1965867

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  • amaeva080amaeva080 Member

    Order Number: 5991780250
    Please extend the server for 4th year and price locking @MassiveGRID
    Thank you.

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