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  • fatchanfatchan Member, Host Rep

    Soooo, besides their US location (which may not even be affected), business as usual for vsys? 🙂

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  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @xvps said:

    @szymonp said:

    @jsg said:

    @szymonp said:

    @jsg said:

    linked article said:
    As famously pointed out by The Pirate Bay’s Anakata in response to a Dreamworks takedown notice 20 years ago, the DMCA does not apply to countries outside the United States.

    I'll help them. "or one of their many vassal states (incl. the whole EU)". Here, corrected.

    As for ukrainian providers: bad news. They run your intelligence service and finance and basically remote control your country - and still you expect their DMCA to not be of concern to you?

    Poland is in the EU and downloading copyrighted content for personal use is legal ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    But making it available for download is not, I guess. And that's what this topic is.

    sure, just saying that not every EU country has completely given into the americans demands

    Copyright laws in the EU are based on the harmonization of the member states' laws. This has nothing to do with US laws or demands.

    Sure! It's certainly just pure happenstance that the EU directives just so happen to match Washington's will to the i-dot.

    Oh, and btw: nice fairy tale, "harmonization". Who doesn't want harmony? The sad fact though is that the "member states" have to follow directives from Brussels and have to implement them in their national law.

    Well whatever, at the end of the day one can not make available copyrighted material (which is pretty much everything) in a large part of the world, in particular in the western regimes.

    If you prefer to call that happenstance, no problem, but kindly accept that that many don't.

    @desperand said:
    The old ex.ua site (owned by the son of the former corrupt president of Ukraine, Yanukovych) ...

    Who was legitimately elected. Btw, can you name a single ukrainian president who was not (at least vehemently accused to be) corrupt.

    There are no direct connections to terrorussian or belarusian IPs due to the terror they inflict on Ukrainians. We’re totally isolated from them

    Of bloody course some hatred against Russia must be spilled by you ...

    Btw, "isolated" as in "Kursk oblast"? (where your troups kill civilians, just as was your
    habit in the Donbas region ...)

    How come, btw. that you are not fighting in the war? Did the tcc thugs not yet get their hands on you?

    Short version: keep politics out of it as best you can ... This forum is about HOSTING.

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  • the lawsuit demands over $42m in copyright damages

    Will you ask for a payment plan or will you pay in cash? -.-

  • @jsg said:

    @xvps said:

    @szymonp said:

    @jsg said:

    @szymonp said:

    @jsg said:

    linked article said:
    As famously pointed out by The Pirate Bay’s Anakata in response to a Dreamworks takedown notice 20 years ago, the DMCA does not apply to countries outside the United States.

    I'll help them. "or one of their many vassal states (incl. the whole EU)". Here, corrected.

    As for ukrainian providers: bad news. They run your intelligence service and finance and basically remote control your country - and still you expect their DMCA to not be of concern to you?

    Poland is in the EU and downloading copyrighted content for personal use is legal ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    But making it available for download is not, I guess. And that's what this topic is.

    sure, just saying that not every EU country has completely given into the americans demands

    Copyright laws in the EU are based on the harmonization of the member states' laws. This has nothing to do with US laws or demands.

    Sure! It's certainly just pure happenstance that the EU directives just so happen to match Washington's will to the i-dot.

    Oh, and btw: nice fairy tale, "harmonization". Who doesn't want harmony? The sad fact though is that the "member states" have to follow directives from Brussels and have to implement them in their national law.

    Well whatever, at the end of the day one can not make available copyrighted material (which is pretty much everything) in a large part of the world, in particular in the western regimes.

    If you prefer to call that happenstance, no problem, but kindly accept that that many don't.

    @desperand said:
    The old ex.ua site (owned by the son of the former corrupt president of Ukraine, Yanukovych) ...

    Who was legitimately elected. Btw, can you name a single ukrainian president who was not (at least vehemently accused to be) corrupt.

    There are no direct connections to terrorussian or belarusian IPs due to the terror they inflict on Ukrainians. We’re totally isolated from them

    Of bloody course some hatred against Russia must be spilled by you ...

    Btw, "isolated" as in "Kursk oblast"? (where your troups kill civilians, just as was your
    habit in the Donbas region ...)

    How come, btw. that you are not fighting in the war? Did the tcc thugs not yet get their hands on you?

    Short version: keep politics out of it as best you can ... This forum is about HOSTING.

    Two can play that game. Of bloody course some hatred against Ukrainians must be spilled by you…

    Keep politics out of it? Sure, you first. Baseless claims against baseless claims aren’t proving anyone’s point.

  • VSYS are kids? I sense envy.

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  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @ServerBachelor said:

    @jsg said:

    @xvps said:

    @szymonp said:

    @jsg said:

    @szymonp said:

    @jsg said:

    linked article said:
    As famously pointed out by The Pirate Bay’s Anakata in response to a Dreamworks takedown notice 20 years ago, the DMCA does not apply to countries outside the United States.

    I'll help them. "or one of their many vassal states (incl. the whole EU)". Here, corrected.

    As for ukrainian providers: bad news. They run your intelligence service and finance and basically remote control your country - and still you expect their DMCA to not be of concern to you?

    Poland is in the EU and downloading copyrighted content for personal use is legal ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    But making it available for download is not, I guess. And that's what this topic is.

    sure, just saying that not every EU country has completely given into the americans demands

    Copyright laws in the EU are based on the harmonization of the member states' laws. This has nothing to do with US laws or demands.

    Sure! It's certainly just pure happenstance that the EU directives just so happen to match Washington's will to the i-dot.

    Oh, and btw: nice fairy tale, "harmonization". Who doesn't want harmony? The sad fact though is that the "member states" have to follow directives from Brussels and have to implement them in their national law.

    Well whatever, at the end of the day one can not make available copyrighted material (which is pretty much everything) in a large part of the world, in particular in the western regimes.

    If you prefer to call that happenstance, no problem, but kindly accept that that many don't.

    @desperand said:
    The old ex.ua site (owned by the son of the former corrupt president of Ukraine, Yanukovych) ...

    Who was legitimately elected. Btw, can you name a single ukrainian president who was not (at least vehemently accused to be) corrupt.

    There are no direct connections to terrorussian or belarusian IPs due to the terror they inflict on Ukrainians. We’re totally isolated from them

    Of bloody course some hatred against Russia must be spilled by you ...

    Btw, "isolated" as in "Kursk oblast"? (where your troups kill civilians, just as was your
    habit in the Donbas region ...)

    How come, btw. that you are not fighting in the war? Did the tcc thugs not yet get their hands on you?

    Short version: keep politics out of it as best you can ... This forum is about HOSTING.

    Two can play that game. Of bloody course some hatred against Ukrainians must be spilled by you…

    FYI: I don't hate them, I despise them. Plus, and importantly, when I say something negative about [any country] I always mean the regime, not the normal people.

    Keep politics out of it? Sure, you first. Baseless claims against baseless claims aren’t proving anyone’s point.

    "you first" - cute! But (a) you certainly dictate rules to me, and (b) gross lack of logic. The one who first "sinned" also is the one to first stop it.

    But thanks for amusing me with your cute attempt.

  • @jsg said:
    Who was legitimately elected. Btw, can you name a single ukrainian president who was not (at least vehemently accused to be) corrupt.

    The current one. Now take your Russian propaganda and fuck off.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited October 2024

    @TimboJones said:

    @jsg said:
    Who was legitimately elected. Btw, can you name a single ukrainian president who was not (at least vehemently accused to be) corrupt.

    The current one. Now take your Russian propaganda and fuck off.

    Hahaha! With the current one it is so extremely bad that pretty much everyone, incl. ukrainian officers with some rests of reason, complains and makes noise.
    And that's not russian propaganda but has been reported in western media.

    So, a quick reminder: Disliking someone is not sufficient to automatically disqualify what he says. For that something called facts and a working brain is needed.

    Have a nice day, bless your heart!

  • SirFoxySirFoxy Member
    edited October 2024

    lololol, good.

    while we're at it, the United States should stop funding the Ukrainian war and arming their people. let them fight their own wars, they clearly don't give a fuck about us.

    this Ukranian owned business would be part of Russia by now already otherwise, and their main (only?) selling point is "we allow the theft and distribution of American intellectual property."

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  • Is this Part 2 of "The Russia vs Ukraine" thread?

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  • This was fine until @jsg had to once again spill verbal diahorrea with baseless claims to take it off topic.

  • @SirFoxy said:
    lololol, good.

    while we're at it, the United States should stop funding the Ukrainian war and arming their people. let them fight their own wars, they clearly don't give a fuck about us.

    this Ukranian owned business would be part of Russia by now already otherwise, and their main (only?) selling point is "we allow the theft and distribution of American intellectual property."

    Somehow both anti Russia and anti America at the same time. A new achievement has been unlocked.

  • @MannDude said:
    Womp womp.

    @Levi said:
    Well, last year ukraine has sucumbed to copyright moguls and accepted series “fixes” to address insane amount of piracy in the country.

    Of course. These western nations are funding their government and are going to have a strong influence moving forward. There will be strong westernization in Ukraine in the coming years.

    Caveat that this is mostly wish of the Ukrainian people. They trend to seeing the west as either the lesser of two evils, or downright alliance-worthy.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @techdragon said:
    This was fine until @jsg had to once again spill verbal diahorrea with baseless claims to take it off topic.

    You can turn and spin it as you like but it was not me who started with politics. In fact I was responding that is, by definition not starting it.

  • They have to serve the subpoena.

    Laboratorna 33/37, Kyiv 03150, UA

    It is just a house without apt number
    https://maps.app.goo.gl/vWBrUEcqSt7Jh9Kz7

  • JohnFilch123JohnFilch123 Member
    edited October 2024

    @Gulf said:
    They have to serve the subpoena.

    Laboratorna 33/37, Kyiv 03150, UA

    It is just a house without apt number
    https://maps.app.goo.gl/vWBrUEcqSt7Jh9Kz7

    And not just serve but serve via official route (there is a specific process in every country and in Ukraine it probably needs to go via Ministry of Justice or similar gov body). It may often take 2-3 months+ depending on the bureaucracy in the origin country.

    It looks like a usual residential building, so either it is a fake address or just a flat where they receive correspondence.

  • @JohnFilch123 said:
    And not just serve but serve via official route (there is a specific process in every country and in Ukraine it probably needs to go via Ministry of Justice or similar gov body). It may often take 2-3 months+ depending on the bureaucracy in the origin country.

    It looks like a usual residential building, so either it is a fake address or just a flat where they receive correspondence.

    There are professional servers in most countries. Maybe a signature on the postman's blank is enough. But without a flat number would be hard. Call every flat, are you owner of vsys?

  • It is probably a virtual address, there are advocates at the same address. Will defend :D

    https://www.ua-region.com.ua/ru/42024584

  • @Gulf said:
    There are professional servers in most countries. Maybe a signature on the postman's blank is enough. But without a flat number would be hard. Call every flat, are you owner of vsys?

    There are but without following the official route it will be invalid and postman's signature is not enough.

  • servers_guruservers_guru Member, Patron Provider

    Can we have a statement @vsys_host?

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  • @servers_guru said:
    Can we have a statement @vsys_host?

    It may be the case where commenting on a lawsuit is not a good idea.

  • @servers_guru said:
    Can we have a statement @vsys_host?

    Why do you need a statement. He is ignoring DMCA like he advertises. Who gives shit about commenting on it. If he isnt worried about it , why are you?

    Move along

  • servers_guruservers_guru Member, Patron Provider
    edited October 2024

    @eldrick said:

    @servers_guru said:
    Can we have a statement @vsys_host?

    Why do you need a statement. He is ignoring DMCA like he advertises. Who gives shit about commenting on it. If he isnt worried about it , why are you?

    Move along

    Because, we have servers with them.

  • I'm in the process of migrating my VOD and encoding servers out of there. Will keep a few load balancers and proxies running. At the moment, this seems like a civil case but I'm afraid once this case passes on to the US feds, what we fear is simply inevitable.

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  • @servers_guru said:

    @eldrick said:

    @servers_guru said:
    Can we have a statement @vsys_host?

    Why do you need a statement. He is ignoring DMCA like he advertises. Who gives shit about commenting on it. If he isnt worried about it , why are you?

    Move along

    Because, we have servers with them.

    In that case, just contact him privately. Why would they comment publicly?

  • ArkasArkas Member, Retired Moderator

    @ServerBachelor said: Somehow both anti Russia and anti America at the same time. A new achievement has been unlocked.

    I work even more next level. I am anti planet, anti ecology, anti environment and I dislike humans. And, I am not kidding. :wink:

    I make as much sense as this :lol:

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  • servers_guruservers_guru Member, Patron Provider
    edited October 2024

    @sillycat said:

    @servers_guru said:

    @eldrick said:

    @servers_guru said:
    Can we have a statement @vsys_host?

    Why do you need a statement. He is ignoring DMCA like he advertises. Who gives shit about commenting on it. If he isnt worried about it , why are you?

    Move along

    Because, we have servers with them.

    In that case, just contact him privately. Why would they comment publicly?

    We will for sure. And I don't mean any harm, we're very happy with vsys.host services. I just think that a public statement might benefit everyone.

  • @servers_guru said: I just think that a public statement might benefit everyone.

    Everyone? Definitely not them. What could they even say? 'We're guilty,' or maybe, 'Get your 50% off DMCA-ignored VPS with code LAWSUIT.'

  • @sillycat said:

    @servers_guru said: I just think that a public statement might benefit everyone.

    Everyone? Definitely not them. What could they even say? 'We're guilty,' or maybe, 'Get your 50% off DMCA-ignored VPS with code LAWSUIT.'

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @sillycat said: What could they even say? 'We're guilty,' or maybe, 'Get your 50% off DMCA-ignored VPS with code LAWSUIT.'

    Honestly, either would entertain me.

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