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@vsys_host
So the question is: Will they go strong and continue be ignoring DMCA or will they change their mind?
This is why you don't market as DMCA ignored. If you want to ignore them, better to stay relatively quiet about it so as to not end up being worth targeting because so many of those types flocked to you.
They always try this way.... "Damages" ... there is no damage....
Every time one of those dmca ignored hosts get taken down, There is an influx of threads looking for dmca ignored hosting. DMCA ignored hosting really is a headache to deal with.
Well, last year ukraine has sucumbed to copyright moguls and accepted series “fixes” to address insane amount of piracy in the country. Those laws now is in action. Vsys ceo will be extradited in case of request and go to jail in case of non-compliancy.
Of course, he always can go to war. Than copyright moguls can chase him throw the mine fields…
Womp womp.
Of course. These western nations are funding their government and are going to have a strong influence moving forward. There will be strong westernization in Ukraine in the coming years.
To be more precise: https://torrentfreak.com/ukraine-commits-to-piracy-crackdown-draws-up-blacklist-joins-wipo-alert-240328/
It was this year, I stand corrected.
Well, Virtual Systems has servers in Seattle and is being sued in Seattle, not Ukraine. There's a long way from filing a lawsuit in the US to shutting down a business in Europe.
This is why specialized hosts should not operate in US as well.
I'll help them. "or one of their many vassal states (incl. the whole EU)". Here, corrected.
As for ukrainian providers: bad news. They run your intelligence service and finance and basically remote control your country - and still you expect their DMCA to not be of concern to you?
Nope. There is no real borders for copyright moguls. They will get you wherever you are if enough money can be extracted. KDC case should tell you something…
Their profile states anonymous. Oops.
there isn't. Find Ukraine law office and sue locally.
A business cannot be sued for the same lawsuit in both the US and Ukraine (principle of res judicata).
A US judgment may be recognized and enforced in Ukraine, but Ukraine is not obligated to recognize a US judgment. Therefore, it’s not a simple process and comes with no guarantee.
I guess they sued in the US because of the outrageous amounts of money that can be awarded in lawsuits there. However, a Ukrainian court might refuse to recognize such a judgment, as $42 million is excessive compared to what would be awarded in a Ukrainian judgment.
Are you still asking ChatGPT legal questions or is this based on your own research?
“Dear Cogent, dear Hurricane Electric - DMCA Takedown Request for ASXXXXX”
Wishing the best for Vsys
One of the last hosting providers that I think truly stands for freedom of speech
Poland is in the EU and downloading copyrighted content for personal use is legal ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I worked for DISH Network in 2013-2014. They might have a judgement against this host in the US but Ukraine doesn't have to recognize the judgement. DISH is a terrible company to work for... I hope they don't get a dime back of any of the money they've spent on this lawsuit.
I use ChatGPT for spelling, grammar, and fact-checking.
For example, I was aware of the principle of res judicata, but I couldn’t remember the name, and I asked if Ukraine follows it.
As a former business owner and volunteer startup advisor, I have a lot of insight into laws in the EU/Denmark. I actually find it amusing that people here on LET reject knowledge if you've used ChatGPT in the process.
This is more or less legally correct btw.
Their hidden "westernization" is a million times stronger. Any copyright stuff is just a kindergarten next to it.
A kind of side-line activity, "to be done once nearly idle".
A short, but great speech on that (especially the second half):
A few clicks in search bring a number of links like:
But making it available for download is not, I guess. And that's what this topic is.
sure, just saying that not every EU country has completely given into the americans demands
Copyright laws in the EU are based on the harmonization of the member states' laws. This has nothing to do with US laws or demands.
except for that time the US forced stricter copyright law on sweden due to the pirate bay
Where? I work with client-based PCs. Who counts that and how? Seriously, I’m really tired of this. This statement simply not true anymore (it was true, i agree, but before 2015 for sure).
I’ve seen many people using licensed Windows purchased with laptops. I also notice a lot of people paying for services like YouTube and Spotify. I can’t name any popular Ukrainian warez or torrent trackers anymore—they all seem dead, especially since around 2013-2014.
The old ex.ua site (owned by the son of the former corrupt president of Ukraine, Yanukovych) is gone. There are no direct connections to terrorussian or belarusian IPs due to the terror they inflict on Ukrainians. We’re totally isolated from them, and their trackers are almost non-existent, with very few users discussing popular files—most of them contain built-in 0days and other malware developed by the GRU.
Many services have shifted from offline software to online platforms, which is more than enough. I’ve seen how medium-sized businesses operate too:
All PCs run on Linux.
I haven’t seen ANY Windows-based PCs in the business sector.
Many people are using Microsoft and Google products with paid subscriptions.
The only “pirated” content that’s somewhat popular comes from 1-2 websites. Why? Because there’s a lack of native Ukrainian translations (voiceovers) for popular movies and series.
When someone online claims, “There’s insane piracy,” I always want to ask them to show me evidence. I live in Ukraine, have worked with numerous clients, and have had access to their PCs for my job—I rarely find pirated software.
Even public BitTorrent IP leaks from Ukrainian providers show low activity related to piracy.
However, if we discuss spam and virus activity, that’s a widespread problem. Almost every device—smartphones, laptops, PCs, IP cameras, various IoT devices—is affected.
The reasons include the war and the use of cheap Chinese devices with no support. There’s a low understanding of what’s going on, combined with a lack of professional expertise to recognize when something is wrong with their PCs or devices.
I’ve encountered many hacked devices using the Selenium framework, which silently installs Python scripts that perform tasks like watching videos and posting fake comments in the background. Overall, from a cybersecurity perspective, the situation in Ukraine is absurd and faces constant attacks every single day across all providers and devices.
Are you sure this works in Germany? Contabo ignores all abuse reports.
Not really @Gulf 🤣