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Email hosting with contacts, calendars and good spam filtering

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  • edited October 2024

    Fastmail.com, $5/mo and it includes everything you need.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @vitobotta said:
    Of course, I had to discover than inbox.eu doesn't support CardDav after paying for one year. I am lucky as usual. So I ended up using Nextcloud for calendar and contacts (since I use Hetzner's Storage Share for that). So a bit annoyed because at this point I could have gone with MXRoute but it is what it is. I am just hoping that the spam filtering works better than Hetzner's, because that's the main reason for the switch.

    I was happy though with the fast import of the mailboxes from Hetzner. They just use simple imapsync, but automated so it was handy. It's all done already and I am gonna cancel with Hetzner next.

    Truth of it is even CardDAV and CalDAV really aren't that great, and they really don't get that much support these days. Properly integrated calendars and contacts works best when 100% into one ecosystem with their own apps and such. It's all downhill once you venture outside of that. That's why I just keep my calendar/contacts with Google/Apple.

  • @professorparabellum said:
    Fastmail.com, $5/mo and it includes everything you need.

    fm is solid but to expensive.

  • @JeDaYoshi said:
    Mailbox.org is good. I have not used them directly, but I have heard nothing but good opinions about them from multiple friends who do.

    I don't like mailbox.org in general.

    if you are too lazy to deal with the company and the people behind mailbox and are also naive enough to entrust your mails, calendars etc. to such a company, you can't be helped anyway.

  • I like mailbox.org, and I'm not bothered that their owner's focus is oriented toward social and ecological responsibility, humanism, etc. It's true that the owner supports various anti-fascist initiatives, but that's only a plus in my eyes.
    However, this doesn't make the service itself better or worse, as personal beliefs are separate from the fact that the company, with 20+ employees, is very active in the anti-surveillance space and openly supports anti-data retention groups, TOR networks, and similar initiatives.

    I can imagine that some neo-Nazi groups might be concerned about being hosted by a company whose owner doesn't share their beliefs, but apart from that, there's no proof that the company has done anything wrong.

  • now the big defamation guns are being raised. it's not about neo-nazis, eco-nazis or anything else, but about the fact that an email service has committed itself to a political agenda. in order to implement this agenda, the provider has to look into the emails to identify disagreeable users or their incorrect opinions. and that's where the problem begins. in my opinion, a keen eye must be present here. if you have this and still entrust yourself to a provider who is not neutral, then that's okay because you have made a conscious decision to do so. my issue is to look into the - freely accessible - background of companies in order to be able to make a qualified decision as to whether you trust this company or not.

  • +1 for mailbox

  • +1 for mailbox.org
    Have been a customer for years and the service they provide was always top notch. Has replaced google mail for my private emails.

  • @hyperblast said: now the big defamation guns are being raised. it's not about neo-nazis, eco-nazis or anything else, but about the fact that an email service has committed itself to a political agenda. in order to implement this agenda, the provider has to look into the emails to identify disagreeable users or their incorrect opinions

    I have a problem with your post. There isn't a single incident, proof, or any evidence that this mail provider has profiled clients based on their political stance. It's your own theoretical concept, simply because you don't share the same values as them.

    To be clear, you're accusing them of doing something that, by your own knowledge, they haven't done, and you're tarnishing their good name based on that.

  • @vitobotta said:
    I went with inbox.eu because

    • pricing
    • has calendars, contacts and file storage (although for the latter I use Nextcloud)
    • automatic migration

    Looks pretty nice so far. It's migrating my email very quickly.

    Im a long time customer at inbox.eu its pretty reliable

  • @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:
    I went with inbox.eu because

    • pricing
    • has calendars, contacts and file storage (although for the latter I use Nextcloud)
    • automatic migration

    Looks pretty nice so far. It's migrating my email very quickly.

    Im a long time customer at inbox.eu its pretty reliable

    do you use a personal or a business-account?

    i was once looking for a solution for families where sharing a calender has to work well. do you know how it works at inbox.eu?

  • gbzret4dgbzret4d Member
    edited October 2024

    @hyperblast said:

    @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:
    I went with inbox.eu because

    • pricing
    • has calendars, contacts and file storage (although for the latter I use Nextcloud)
    • automatic migration

    Looks pretty nice so far. It's migrating my email very quickly.

    Im a long time customer at inbox.eu its pretty reliable

    do you use a personal or a business-account?

    i was once looking for a solution for families where sharing a calender has to work well. do you know how it works at inbox.eu?

    Personal

    Can send you a test link for this calendar if you wanna try out. Never experienced a problem with their calendar

    Thanked by 1hyperblast
  • JeDaYoshiJeDaYoshi Member
    edited October 2024

    @hyperblast said:

    @JeDaYoshi said:
    Mailbox.org is good. I have not used them directly, but I have heard nothing but good opinions about them from multiple friends who do.

    I don't like mailbox.org in general.

    if you are too lazy to deal with the company and the people behind mailbox and are also naive enough to entrust your mails, calendars etc. to such a company, you can't be helped anyway.

    It's not a matter of "being lazy to investigate on the company", but rather that you're not being exactly useful in the thread, just throwing accusations without proper proof.

    Thanked by 1Alyx
  • @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:
    I went with inbox.eu because

    • pricing
    • has calendars, contacts and file storage (although for the latter I use Nextcloud)
    • automatic migration

    Looks pretty nice so far. It's migrating my email very quickly.

    Im a long time customer at inbox.eu its pretty reliable

    Nice to hear! How has the spam filtering been for you so far? How long (in years) have you used the service? Also, what did you do for contacts since it doesn't support carddav? Thanks!

  • People, just a reminder to leave politics out of this thread

  • gbzret4dgbzret4d Member
    edited October 2024

    @vitobotta said:

    @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:
    I went with inbox.eu because

    • pricing
    • has calendars, contacts and file storage (although for the latter I use Nextcloud)
    • automatic migration

    Looks pretty nice so far. It's migrating my email very quickly.

    Im a long time customer at inbox.eu its pretty reliable

    Nice to hear! How has the spam filtering been for you so far? How long (in years) have you used the service? Also, what did you do for contacts since it doesn't support carddav? Thanks!

    About 3 years
    I don't have any contacts secured in inbox so can't tell you. Spam filter is pretty good so far, sometimes a spam email slips through but not many false positives imo

    Try them afaik it's 3 euro for a whole year

  • @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:

    @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:
    I went with inbox.eu because

    • pricing
    • has calendars, contacts and file storage (although for the latter I use Nextcloud)
    • automatic migration

    Looks pretty nice so far. It's migrating my email very quickly.

    Im a long time customer at inbox.eu its pretty reliable

    Nice to hear! How has the spam filtering been for you so far? How long (in years) have you used the service? Also, what did you do for contacts since it doesn't support carddav? Thanks!

    About 3 years
    I don't have any contacts secured in inbox so can't tell you. Spam filter is pretty good so far, sometimes a spam email slips through but not many false positives imo

    Try them afaik it's 3 euro for a whole year

    I migrated already :D BTW it seems that it automatically classifies some emails in the "lists" folder, but that includes notifications from Github, which I want to receive in the inbox instead. How do I change that? I cannot find it

  • @angstrom said:
    People, just a reminder to leave politics out of this thread

    Good suggestion

    Thanked by 1nghialele
  • @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:

    @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:
    I went with inbox.eu because

    • pricing
    • has calendars, contacts and file storage (although for the latter I use Nextcloud)
    • automatic migration

    Looks pretty nice so far. It's migrating my email very quickly.

    Im a long time customer at inbox.eu its pretty reliable

    Nice to hear! How has the spam filtering been for you so far? How long (in years) have you used the service? Also, what did you do for contacts since it doesn't support carddav? Thanks!

    About 3 years
    I don't have any contacts secured in inbox so can't tell you. Spam filter is pretty good so far, sometimes a spam email slips through but not many false positives imo

    Try them afaik it's 3 euro for a whole year

    BTW I paid 9.99/user/year to use my custom domain. Are we talking about the same provider, inbox.eu?

  • I see hey.com is a great email solution but i’m not sure it fits your need, check out if u want to.

  • @hyperblast said:
    now the big defamation guns are being raised. it's not about neo-nazis, eco-nazis or anything else, but about the fact that an email service has committed itself to a political agenda. in order to implement this agenda, the provider has to look into the emails to identify disagreeable users or their incorrect opinions. and that's where the problem begins. in my opinion, a keen eye must be present here. if you have this and still entrust yourself to a provider who is not neutral, then that's okay because you have made a conscious decision to do so. my issue is to look into the - freely accessible - background of companies in order to be able to make a qualified decision as to whether you trust this company or not.

    What the hell is left wing email tho? 😂😄

  • @vitobotta said:

    @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:

    @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:
    I went with inbox.eu because

    • pricing
    • has calendars, contacts and file storage (although for the latter I use Nextcloud)
    • automatic migration

    Looks pretty nice so far. It's migrating my email very quickly.

    Im a long time customer at inbox.eu its pretty reliable

    Nice to hear! How has the spam filtering been for you so far? How long (in years) have you used the service? Also, what did you do for contacts since it doesn't support carddav? Thanks!

    About 3 years
    I don't have any contacts secured in inbox so can't tell you. Spam filter is pretty good so far, sometimes a spam email slips through but not many false positives imo

    Try them afaik it's 3 euro for a whole year

    BTW I paid 9.99/user/year to use my custom domain. Are we talking about the same provider, inbox.eu?

    Checked right now and indeed it shows 9,99€ for a year.
    If i remember correctly they had some while ago a 3 year deal for about 30€

    For disabling the "lists" folder go here: https://email.inbox.eu/prefs/interface and uncheck "Automatically filter messages to Social and List folders"

  • @nghialele said:
    I see hey.com is a great email solution but i’m not sure it fits your need, check out if u want to.

    It's very expensive and it doesn't even support open standards unless something has changed recently. It's not the typical email hosting service IMO.

    @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:

    @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:

    @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:
    I went with inbox.eu because

    • pricing
    • has calendars, contacts and file storage (although for the latter I use Nextcloud)
    • automatic migration

    Looks pretty nice so far. It's migrating my email very quickly.

    Im a long time customer at inbox.eu its pretty reliable

    Nice to hear! How has the spam filtering been for you so far? How long (in years) have you used the service? Also, what did you do for contacts since it doesn't support carddav? Thanks!

    About 3 years
    I don't have any contacts secured in inbox so can't tell you. Spam filter is pretty good so far, sometimes a spam email slips through but not many false positives imo

    Try them afaik it's 3 euro for a whole year

    BTW I paid 9.99/user/year to use my custom domain. Are we talking about the same provider, inbox.eu?

    Checked right now and indeed it shows 9,99€ for a year.
    If i remember correctly they had some while ago a 3 year deal for about 30€

    For disabling the "lists" folder go here: https://email.inbox.eu/prefs/interface and uncheck "Automatically filter messages to Social and List folders"

    Nice, thanks a lot! I didn't notice that option. :)

    Thanked by 1gbzret4d
  • @vitobotta said:

    @nghialele said:
    I see hey.com is a great email solution but i’m not sure it fits your need, check out if u want to.

    It's very expensive and it doesn't even support open standards unless something has changed recently. It's not the typical email hosting service IMO.

    @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:

    @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:

    @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:
    I went with inbox.eu because

    • pricing
    • has calendars, contacts and file storage (although for the latter I use Nextcloud)
    • automatic migration

    Looks pretty nice so far. It's migrating my email very quickly.

    Im a long time customer at inbox.eu its pretty reliable

    Nice to hear! How has the spam filtering been for you so far? How long (in years) have you used the service? Also, what did you do for contacts since it doesn't support carddav? Thanks!

    About 3 years
    I don't have any contacts secured in inbox so can't tell you. Spam filter is pretty good so far, sometimes a spam email slips through but not many false positives imo

    Try them afaik it's 3 euro for a whole year

    BTW I paid 9.99/user/year to use my custom domain. Are we talking about the same provider, inbox.eu?

    Checked right now and indeed it shows 9,99€ for a year.
    If i remember correctly they had some while ago a 3 year deal for about 30€

    For disabling the "lists" folder go here: https://email.inbox.eu/prefs/interface and uncheck "Automatically filter messages to Social and List folders"

    Nice, thanks a lot! I didn't notice that option. :)

    I haven’t tried since I still stick with my domain providers for email hosting, as I don’t sending much.

    Anyway, thank you for the topic, now I learned about some email hosting providers.

  • @nghialele said:

    @vitobotta said:

    @nghialele said:
    I see hey.com is a great email solution but i’m not sure it fits your need, check out if u want to.

    It's very expensive and it doesn't even support open standards unless something has changed recently. It's not the typical email hosting service IMO.

    @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:

    @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:

    @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:
    I went with inbox.eu because

    • pricing
    • has calendars, contacts and file storage (although for the latter I use Nextcloud)
    • automatic migration

    Looks pretty nice so far. It's migrating my email very quickly.

    Im a long time customer at inbox.eu its pretty reliable

    Nice to hear! How has the spam filtering been for you so far? How long (in years) have you used the service? Also, what did you do for contacts since it doesn't support carddav? Thanks!

    About 3 years
    I don't have any contacts secured in inbox so can't tell you. Spam filter is pretty good so far, sometimes a spam email slips through but not many false positives imo

    Try them afaik it's 3 euro for a whole year

    BTW I paid 9.99/user/year to use my custom domain. Are we talking about the same provider, inbox.eu?

    Checked right now and indeed it shows 9,99€ for a year.
    If i remember correctly they had some while ago a 3 year deal for about 30€

    For disabling the "lists" folder go here: https://email.inbox.eu/prefs/interface and uncheck "Automatically filter messages to Social and List folders"

    Nice, thanks a lot! I didn't notice that option. :)

    I haven’t tried since I still stick with my domain providers for email hosting, as I don’t sending much.

    Anyway, thank you for the topic, now I learned about some email hosting providers.

    Hey has interesting features, but the pricing OMG. 12/user/month if you want to use custom domains. And it doesn't even support IMAP lol. You can only use their own apps. That pricing given the limitations is absolutely nuts.

    Thanked by 1nghialele
  • @vitobotta said:

    @nghialele said:
    I see hey.com is a great email solution but i’m not sure it fits your need, check out if u want to.

    It's very expensive and it doesn't even support open standards unless something has changed recently. It's not the typical email hosting service IMO.

    @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:

    @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:

    @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:
    I went with inbox.eu because

    • pricing
    • has calendars, contacts and file storage (although for the latter I use Nextcloud)
    • automatic migration

    Looks pretty nice so far. It's migrating my email very quickly.

    Im a long time customer at inbox.eu its pretty reliable

    Nice to hear! How has the spam filtering been for you so far? How long (in years) have you used the service? Also, what did you do for contacts since it doesn't support carddav? Thanks!

    About 3 years
    I don't have any contacts secured in inbox so can't tell you. Spam filter is pretty good so far, sometimes a spam email slips through but not many false positives imo

    Try them afaik it's 3 euro for a whole year

    BTW I paid 9.99/user/year to use my custom domain. Are we talking about the same provider, inbox.eu?

    Checked right now and indeed it shows 9,99€ for a year.
    If i remember correctly they had some while ago a 3 year deal for about 30€

    For disabling the "lists" folder go here: https://email.inbox.eu/prefs/interface and uncheck "Automatically filter messages to Social and List folders"

    Nice, thanks a lot! I didn't notice that option. :)

    Never heard of hey.com but fuck me that pricing is insane

  • @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:

    @nghialele said:
    I see hey.com is a great email solution but i’m not sure it fits your need, check out if u want to.

    It's very expensive and it doesn't even support open standards unless something has changed recently. It's not the typical email hosting service IMO.

    @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:

    @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:

    @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:
    I went with inbox.eu because

    • pricing
    • has calendars, contacts and file storage (although for the latter I use Nextcloud)
    • automatic migration

    Looks pretty nice so far. It's migrating my email very quickly.

    Im a long time customer at inbox.eu its pretty reliable

    Nice to hear! How has the spam filtering been for you so far? How long (in years) have you used the service? Also, what did you do for contacts since it doesn't support carddav? Thanks!

    About 3 years
    I don't have any contacts secured in inbox so can't tell you. Spam filter is pretty good so far, sometimes a spam email slips through but not many false positives imo

    Try them afaik it's 3 euro for a whole year

    BTW I paid 9.99/user/year to use my custom domain. Are we talking about the same provider, inbox.eu?

    Checked right now and indeed it shows 9,99€ for a year.
    If i remember correctly they had some while ago a 3 year deal for about 30€

    For disabling the "lists" folder go here: https://email.inbox.eu/prefs/interface and uncheck "Automatically filter messages to Social and List folders"

    Nice, thanks a lot! I didn't notice that option. :)

    Never heard of hey.com but fuck me that pricing is insane

    I follow the founder of that because of another application (campfire from 37signals). That is where I learned about hey, but yeah, pricing for domains is insane

  • @nghialele said:

    @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:

    @nghialele said:
    I see hey.com is a great email solution but i’m not sure it fits your need, check out if u want to.

    It's very expensive and it doesn't even support open standards unless something has changed recently. It's not the typical email hosting service IMO.

    @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:

    @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:

    @gbzret4d said:

    @vitobotta said:
    I went with inbox.eu because

    • pricing
    • has calendars, contacts and file storage (although for the latter I use Nextcloud)
    • automatic migration

    Looks pretty nice so far. It's migrating my email very quickly.

    Im a long time customer at inbox.eu its pretty reliable

    Nice to hear! How has the spam filtering been for you so far? How long (in years) have you used the service? Also, what did you do for contacts since it doesn't support carddav? Thanks!

    About 3 years
    I don't have any contacts secured in inbox so can't tell you. Spam filter is pretty good so far, sometimes a spam email slips through but not many false positives imo

    Try them afaik it's 3 euro for a whole year

    BTW I paid 9.99/user/year to use my custom domain. Are we talking about the same provider, inbox.eu?

    Checked right now and indeed it shows 9,99€ for a year.
    If i remember correctly they had some while ago a 3 year deal for about 30€

    For disabling the "lists" folder go here: https://email.inbox.eu/prefs/interface and uncheck "Automatically filter messages to Social and List folders"

    Nice, thanks a lot! I didn't notice that option. :)

    Never heard of hey.com but fuck me that pricing is insane

    I follow the founder of that because of another application (campfire from 37signals). That is where I learned about hey, but yeah, pricing for domains is insane

    I am a Rails dev and normally like DHH and the stuff that 37signals done, but this is really overpriced IMO.

    Thanked by 2gbzret4d nghialele
  • hover.com/email
    I came across this just now, probably doesn't have the features you asked for.

    I am trying to order the plan in the image. It clearly says "Uses your own domain" .

    However, I feel like they meant "Uses your own domain that your purchase from us"

    The renewal prices on the domains kinda suck though.

  • @Nanja said:

    hover.com/email
    I came across this just now, probably doesn't have the features you asked for.

    I am trying to order the plan in the image. It clearly says "Uses your own domain" .

    However, I feel like they meant "Uses your own domain that your purchase from us"

    The renewal prices on the domains kinda suck though.

    That’s a lot of storage for the price

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