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Anyone here have used bsd as their daily diver ? Any thoughts? I want to try GhostBSD since i've seen steam and wine works on bsd and compare to my Nobara build which i run atm. Nobara is great for gaming atm on linux
Yes, I did for quite a while. But finally switched back to linux (debian w/o poettering pestilence) because as a developer I often need packages not (yet) available on xBSD and unlike on servers am not willing to manually configure and compile a whole lot of software.
That said I'd guess that as a "normal basic" user FreeBSD with a gui will do the job. If uncertain just look at e.g. freshports whether all software you need is available for FreeBSD.
Do you literally mean Debian without systemd (which last I heard was still possible) or do you mean Devuan, or something else?
Something like Devuan.
First login to new FreeBSD VPS at Linveo! Thanks Linveo!
What should I do next? (j/k)
freebsd-update fetch ; freebsd-update install ; reboot
A few years ago, there was a real performance penalty when running FreeBSD as a VPS guest compared to GNU/Linux (using KVM if I remember well).
Is that something of the past and nowadays there is no reason not to use a *BSD, even on a cheap VPS?
Yes that was the case, but fortunately it is well in the past. I am running FreeBSD pretty much on any VPS like BuyVM 512MB with Root-on-ZFS and there is no performance degradation as far as I can notice. Next time when you're provisioning a VM, give BSD a try!
Cheap VPS meaning less than $15/year? I've found I get even more bang for the buck out of the limited resources like you are talking about.
I've been using BSD at Linveo for a while now. They are one of the best providers around in my opinion, @lnx runs a tight ship over there. I think regardless of what you do next you'll be able to do it with ease on their servers. My Ryzen VPS is crazy fast.
What is the differences of Root-on-ZFS and UFS?
What are the pros and cons of both?
Both are very established and solid file systems and used for years and years, decades basically.
ZFS in a low memory environment is a bit tricky so I'd use UFS there instead, but ZFS does provide very nice features even for lower powered systems like encryption of the boot drive, snapshotting, checksums, boot environments etc.
For many people UFS is for boot and ZFS is for storage, but you can go either way.
I've always just used ZFS. Never tried UFS.
Root-on-ZFS is fairly recent addition through the installer, well some years old, but UFS has been the default from the beginning.
Last night, I managed to figure out how to get Freebsd on my new OVH KS dedi. I liked how they have an option to upload a raw image file and it will install it onto the raid disks but it took me a while to figure out how to get their KVM Java Applet to work so I can finish the install. Turns out it only works on Windows.
I tested it about a year or so ago. Installed both linux and then FreeBSD on a "dedi" (in my lab) and ran my benchmark. FreeBSD was a bit (really not significantly) faster overall but disk performance seemed a bit (really not significantly) slower. ("seemed" because linux caches very aggressively).
Summary: performance isn't a factor anymore in the "linux or FreeBSD" question.
It is a shame that there isn't any more modern way to handle their dedis or install OS but to use ages old Java on Windows. Their current lineup of dedis is tempting, but difficulty in using ISO boot especially over a long distance is a big turnoff.
Agreed, especially when it comes to dedis. The KVM/IPMI suck so much when it uses an older version of Dell iDRAC/HP iLO/SuperMicro IPMI that isn't supported by modern os.
As BSD isn't Linux, how does it compare to Linux, generally, and for compatible/interoperable is it with Linux?
What exactly are you looking to be interoperable? Outside of gaming (and some do work but as a whole if you want to game going the BSD route is NOT your best option) I haven't really found much that I haven't been able to make work. Some of the BSDs even have a Linux binary compatibility layer if you really insist on going that route instead of compiling whatever it is you want to use from scratch (assuming it's not in the ports tree).
https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/linuxemu/
OpenBSD used to have it as well but they yanked it out due to security issues (Linux isn't super secure as most are aware). I've never tried it on NetBSD mainly because again if I wanted to run Linux binaries I'd just use Linux and most everything that there is a Linux binary for I can compile my own binary on BSD. You should give one of the BSDs a try and see how you like it (for first timers I'd suggest sticking with FreeBSD).
I’ve been pretty busy, so it took me a while to finally try BSD. I set up FreeBSD on a free VPS I got from freevps.org a little while back. The installation went smoothly, and my first impression was that it felt pretty similar to Linux. I managed to set up a few things like a web server and my Discord bot, and everything went well. I will consider using BSD for future servers. Thanks for the inspiration to dive into it!
Thanks guys. I'll definitely setup a BSD box soon
I'm using FreeBSD for my main server.
Currently powering email server with Dovecot+OpenSMTPD+Redis+Rspamd and shared computer system (tilde if you know).
Memory: 451.41 MiB / 991.38 MiB
Swap: 0 B / 2.00 GiB
CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) E5-2696 v4 @ 2.19 GHz
Go for it, you'll definitely won't regret it!
Very happy to hear that! Keep it goin'
Is there a good way to reinstall directly from a live FreeBSD system to NetBSD or to OpenBSD and then back to FreeBSD again?
What do you guys think about:
@concept
Seems interesting but don't know much about it.
I found the best way to reinstall is booting into netboot.xyz via ipxe.
I have vm-bhyve performing the usual home hypervisor duties, replacing proxmox. Thank you for the inspiration.
That's great! Do you run Linux in there? If yes, have you considered changing your Linux workloads to FreeBSD? Jails provides easy virtualization and isolation but using a shared OS.
I have an opnsense vm with 1G and 10G nics passed through.
I also have a Linux VM running docker with a Coral Edge TPU passed through for frigate, home assistant, channels dvr, jellyfin, gitea, etc.
No jails but I am drinking the cool-aid with zfs and zvols.
Should I look into using a jails manager? What are my options?
Does anyone made it work BCM drivers for BSD on RPi02W?