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Amazon SES or Zoho ZeptoMail

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  • tjntjn Member

    @EthanZou said:

    @tjn said:
    How many emails are you thinking of sending?

    50~100/DAY

    50 to 100 a day? Go with MXRoute!

  • EthanZouEthanZou Member

    @Gulf said: I estimate the cost of sending 100k mails about 0.5$ or even 0.05$

    Great job!
    That's amazing!

  • EthanZouEthanZou Member

    @tjn said:

    @EthanZou said:

    @tjn said:
    How many emails are you thinking of sending?

    50~100/DAY

    50 to 100 a day? Go with MXRoute!

    Thx~
    How about SES/ZeptoMail in comparison?

  • tjntjn Member

    In comparison to SES/Zeptomail?

    Sending with MXRoute is great, @jar is really ontop of things and everything always gets delivered - to both Outlook/M365 and Gmail/Workspace.

    If you have a quick search in the forum you'll find great reviews all round.

    With MXRoute you would simply use SMTP details, no API, deliverablity rates, or anything similar. They basically have great outbound infra with DirectAdmin ontop for you to manage it - but if you're just sending 100 emails a day it's totally worth it.

    It'll be $15 for 3 years for capped at 300emails/hour - well below your daily send.

    Thanked by 1jar
  • Kevinf100Kevinf100 Member

    @tjn said:
    In comparison to SES/Zeptomail?

    Sending with MXRoute is great, @jar is really ontop of things and everything always gets delivered - to both Outlook/M365 and Gmail/Workspace.

    If you have a quick search in the forum you'll find great reviews all round.

    With MXRoute you would simply use SMTP details, no API, deliverablity rates, or anything similar. They basically have great outbound infra with DirectAdmin ontop for you to manage it - but if you're just sending 100 emails a day it's totally worth it.

    It'll be $15 for 3 years for capped at 300emails/hour - well below your daily send.

    Last I looked $15 for 3 years is gone. Next best is $30 for 3 years.

    Thanked by 1tjn
  • EthanZouEthanZou Member

    @tjn said:
    In comparison to SES/Zeptomail?

    Sending with MXRoute is great, @jar is really ontop of things and everything always gets delivered - to both Outlook/M365 and Gmail/Workspace.

    If you have a quick search in the forum you'll find great reviews all round.

    With MXRoute you would simply use SMTP details, no API, deliverablity rates, or anything similar. They basically have great outbound infra with DirectAdmin ontop for you to manage it - but if you're just sending 100 emails a day it's totally worth it.

    It'll be $15 for 3 years for capped at 300emails/hour - well below your daily send.

    Thank you very much!

  • chiccorossochiccorosso Member

    I try both...and zoho zepto mail it's more easy to configure and use it!

  • vitobottavitobotta Member

    Never had a problem with Zepto in 2 years or longer

  • GulfGulf Member

    If you send transactional mail or non-spam marketing (where users confirmed subscription), both will be suitable. Deliverability +/- the same. SES is blocked by asn in some marginal databases, you will probably never reach.

    I would go SES, because it is cheaper (1$ vs 2.5$).
    If you send something close to spam, both will ban you.

  • GulfGulf Member

    Received updated reports. I also added for comparison the data from the last year (I published on previous page).

    Thanked by 1loay
  • GulfGulf Member

    So both amazon and zoho dropped reputation during the year
    SG started blocking spammers more effectively.
    Mailgun dropped Amazon & Rackspace and moved to own datacenter (their parent company recently bought).

    Thanked by 1loay
  • Protocol903Protocol903 Member

    @Gulf said:
    From the internal data, zoho has better trust score. Can you suggest from which asn they send zepto mail? Or show an IP of zepto.

    Here in table,
    average_trust_score
    ips_in_asn - number of ips in asn, some may be unused, or used for web or receiving mail
    ips_measured - number of ips where reputation was measured (that send mail)

    amazon singlehandedly is reason for global IP shortage

  • GulfGulf Member

    @shaikhmanal said:

    Did you see the number of IPs owned by US Ministry of Defence? Over half a billion.

    Apple owns 17.x branch
    Ford...owns 19.x
    British Ministry of defence 25.x
    Mercedes 53.x
    etc. some netblocks are owned by, for example, the California Fire Department. They don't even use it. They deal with fires and they don't have time for that.

    Thanked by 2loay commercial
  • GulfGulf Member

    Thanked by 1loay
  • Protocol903Protocol903 Member

    big bamboozled.

  • GulfGulf Member

    They got it at the early stages of the internet, so even the car companies got 16 million IPs each. They don't use them, but hold.

  • EthanZouEthanZou Member

    @Gulf said:
    Received updated reports. I also added for comparison the data from the last year (I published on previous page).

    Thank you, Gulf

  • GulfGulf Member
    edited September 2024

    Looks like was able to make a markdown :D
    Or hard to read. + added some big data centers

    diff - is the difference in reputation during the year

    asn domain diff trust in 2024 trust in 2023
    as398810 mxroute.com +11.12 43.9457 32.8227
    as14782 mailchimp.com -1.21 41.2629 42.4733
    as11377 sendgrid.com +4.84 31.3581 26.5172
    as396479 mailgun.com +1.72 29.3591 27.6431
    as56201 zoho.in -1.06 27.2309 28.2924
    as141757 zohocorp.com -3.90 26.6178 30.5205
    as2639 zoho.com -5.51 25.464 30.971
    as205111 zoho.com -5.77 23.4879 29.2544
    as139006 zohocorp.com -3.69 17.673 21.3644
    as24940 hetzner.de +2.12 12.5167 10.4001
    as14618 amazon.com -3.48 6.61547 10.094
    as213230 hetzner.de +2.94 0.755696 -2.18636
    as8987 amazon.com +2.17 0.576412 -1.59273
    as215859 hetzner.de +0.52 0.523534 0
    as16276 ovhcloud.com +1.64 0.388424 -1.24808
    as12222 akamai.com +0.37 0.374251 0
    as46652 digitalocean.com +4.99 0.227273 -4.76471
    as212317 hetzner.de +2.10 0.0676294 -2.0324
    as202611 yandex.net +33.33 0 -33.3333
    as18717 akamai.com 0.00 0 0
    as199528 yandex.com 0.00 0 0
    as33970 m247.com 0.00 0 0
    as35204 akamai.com 0.00 0 0
    as49846 akamai.com 0.00 0 0
    as208795 yandex.net 0.00 0 0
    as26008 akamai.com 0.00 0 0
    as19047 amazon.com 0.00 0 0
    as397849 zoho.com 0.00 0 0
    as62785 amazon.com 0.00 0 0
    as21342 akamai.com 0.00 0 0
    as60863 mail.ru 0.00 0 0
    as46407 constant.com -4.17 0 4.16667
    as207207 yandex.net 0.00 0 0
    as33905 akamai.com 0.00 0 0
    as16247 m247.com -0.05 -0.0790903 -0.0330578
    as16625 akamai.com -0.10 -0.0995102 0
    as32787 akamai.com -0.21 -0.205086 0
    as36183 akamai.com -0.23 -0.232288 0
    as20940 akamai.com -0.55 -0.553319 0
    as35994 akamai.com -0.79 -0.789728 0
    as36351 softlayer.com -3.11 -1.23957 1.87362
    as63949 linode.com +2.50 -1.60392 -4.10164
    as20473 constant.com -1.62 -1.63791 -0.0168182
    as16509 amazon.com 0.00 -1.85277 -1.85277
    as31984 akamai.com -1.87 -1.86916 0
    as48207 yandex.com -2.56 -2.5641 0
    as209206 yandex.com -3.13 -3.125 0
    as40676 psychz.net -2.54 -3.23207 -0.692181
    as31108 akamai.com -5.41 -5.41026 0
    as53667 frantech.ca +2.80 -5.69825 -8.49434
    as13238 yandex.ru +32.86 -9.4477 -42.3041
    as9009 m247.com +2.94 -13.0347 -15.9754
    as14061 digitalocean.com +3.00 -22.2317 -25.2305
    as55990 huaweicloud.com +3.15 -22.4838 -25.6339
    as136907 huaweicloud.com +17.75 -24.3788 -42.1314
    as200350 yandex.com -19.67 -25.9255 -6.25908
    as45102 alibabagroup.com -8.15 -27.2172 -19.0639
    as7224 amazon.com -14.32 -33.4232 -19.1011
    as61178 mail.ru -4.51 -55.7857 -51.2778
    as37963 alibabagroup.com -5.55 -70.9253 -65.3724
    as49797 mail.ru -71.00 -71 0
    as8881 1und1.net +8.87 -78.1506 -87.0175
    as5384 emirates.net.ae -81.43 -81.4251 0
    as205830 mail.ru +10.36 -85.5 -95.8571
    as213120 akamai.com -87.28 -87.2763 0
    as215930 yandex.com -90.79 -90.7931 0
    as211849 yandex.kz +2.46 -97.5439 -100
    as202475 yandex.com 0.00 -100 -100
    as215013 yandex.net -100.00 -100 0
  • EthanZouEthanZou Member

    How to get out of SES sandbox?

    :'(

  • COLBYLICIOUSCOLBYLICIOUS Member

    @Kevinf100 said:

    @tjn said:
    In comparison to SES/Zeptomail?

    Sending with MXRoute is great, @jar is really ontop of things and everything always gets delivered - to both Outlook/M365 and Gmail/Workspace.

    If you have a quick search in the forum you'll find great reviews all round.

    With MXRoute you would simply use SMTP details, no API, deliverablity rates, or anything similar. They basically have great outbound infra with DirectAdmin ontop for you to manage it - but if you're just sending 100 emails a day it's totally worth it.

    It'll be $15 for 3 years for capped at 300emails/hour - well below your daily send.

    Last I looked $15 for 3 years is gone. Next best is $30 for 3 years.

    I think I got lucky to have an 25GB plan for 3$/trienally.

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