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Telegram founder Pavel Durov Arrested

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  • @mikei said:
    Durov don't pirate it, and it's not a VK policy. It's a user submitted content that is subject to moderation.

    Initially, they didn't moderate any content, which is why VK became so popular. Unfortunately, it turned into a highly illegal platform where it was easy to find anything, including CP. Now, it has cleaned up its act, and the same will happen with Telegram.

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @mikei said:

    She's real good, she's an author of her songs, she's different in a way she's more normal than other ugly ones. My recent joke to the same question, "Russians don't eat country, they eat eurodisco and rock". But I agree, with just that okay singing you can't get stadiums. She's a project/investment. Just wait when she endorse Kamala with her millions of Instagram followers! Remember what U2 were bred for.

    You may be surprised, but I don't listen to Anglo-American songs as songs. Since the Beatles era, I have just liked music and singing. And when I read their lyrics, I want to continue listening in the same style, and I do not want to change anything in my practice. However, this does not prevent me from distinguishing between a good song and a bad one.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    If Durov is such a freedom advocate why dosen't he make it E2EE?

    Dosen't make any sense

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  • @rustelekom said:
    Governments, including those who claim to be "democratic" or "defenders of freedom of speech", remain the state. The state, regardless of its form, remains an instrument of oppression of society. While the level of oppression may vary, the difference between these levels is not as significant as it once was.

    You may agree or disagree, but states are increasingly becoming defenders of the interests of elites and not their own people.

    Elites have become a new breed of humanity, perhaps they should be called "homo elitis" instead of "homo sapiens". After all, how many people can afford flying business jets, owning vast amounts of real estate and having immense wealth?

    Their children receive the finest education, attend elite schools and universities, and their children's children continue this cycle. 1% of the world's population owns 99% of all wealth on Earth.

    Back to topic subject, please read this article:

    https://x.com/BasedTorba/status/1828093953620545539

    See, you are clueless. While companies like Apple are much larger than the East India Trading Company, they don't get away with genocide and murder like they used to.

    Governments have often sided with big businesses because of jobs in their jurisdiction and political donations. Same as it ever was.

    Western society is no longer a caste system. Monopolies are investigated and broken up. In Hollywood, we can see whole movie sets put on hold when there's #metoo shit going on.

    Your Russian brain is severely under educated and you are a Putin stooge where you operate against your best interests. You are sad.

  • @rustelekom said:

    @Nebes said:

    @rustelekom said:
    After all, how many people can afford flying business jets, owning vast amounts of real estate and having immense wealth?

    I personally don't need anything from the list. Durov started Vkontakte by pirating music, and now he's pirating freedom. He is a scammer.

    What you mean under "pirating freedom"? Freedom is freedom, and just because someone called a girl or a young man as fat or Biden as an old man out of his mind, you can't hold a person accountable, especially criminally.

    What's with the hard-on for Biden? He has absolutely no relevance to this topic and bringing him up makes no sense other than to highlight you are trolling. It's strange you have such a fascination.

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  • @mw said:

    @Nebes said:

    @rustelekom said:
    After all, how many people can afford flying business jets, owning vast amounts of real estate and having immense wealth?

    I personally don't need anything from the list. Durov started Vkontakte by pirating music, and now he's pirating freedom. He is a scammer.

    the only scammers in music are the labels that nickel and dime consumers and pocket the hard work of artists

    It can be argued the label does the "hard work". The artist makes valuable content, but you'd be very wrong to compare "hard work" in terms of popular musicians.

    Where labels are scammy is having lopsided deals over ownership. But everyone historical made money on popular music.

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @TimboJones said:
    What's with the hard-on for Biden? He has absolutely no relevance to this topic and bringing him up makes no sense other than to highlight you are trolling. It's strange you have such a fascination.

    Who are you to instruct me on what I may say and what I don't say?

  • @rustelekom said:

    @TimboJones said:
    What's with the hard-on for Biden? He has absolutely no relevance to this topic and bringing him up makes no sense other than to highlight you are trolling. It's strange you have such a fascination.

    Who are you to instruct me on what I may say and what I don't say?

    Learn to read, then.

    I didn't say what you could or couldn't say, I said what you said was weird and strange and asked why you said it.

    Plus, anyone can instruct anyone to stay on topic, not twist words and act like a whiny baby.

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @Nebes said:

    @mikei said:
    Durov don't pirate it, and it's not a VK policy. It's a user submitted content that is subject to moderation.

    Initially, they didn't moderate any content, which is why VK became so popular. Unfortunately, it turned into a highly illegal platform where it was easy to find anything, including CP. Now, it has cleaned up its act, and the same will happen with Telegram.

    That's true for any startup, especially for an internet startup. Most LET providers initially allow DCMA-free, bulletproof SPAM heaven and other features that are now restricted in serious hosts. Then, they change the terms, making them more difficult and strict, or they are asked to leave the market. Also, the internet in 2000 is different from the internet of 2024.

    The mention of drug trafficking, child pornography and other vicious and criminal acts in the charges of the French prosecutor's office against Durov, the owner of one of the largest social networks alternative to American and Chinese social networks, is obviously used to maximize pressure on him and his policy of moderation. This is so obvious that the number of downloads of the Telegram application in France and the USA has increased significantly.

    People don't believe these accusations and download the app to make sure for themselves. Do you think that the application is downloaded to get access to all these things?

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @emgh said:
    If Durov is such a freedom advocate why dosen't he make it E2EE?

    Dosen't make any sense

    He created his second successful startup and worked hard to be a visionary of Telegram, adding new features for users.

    As far as I know, Telegram follows the law of different countries. For example, in the EC, "the garden of freedom and democracy," they block many Russian channels for Europeans.

  • fredo1664fredo1664 Member
    edited August 2024

    @rustelekom said:
    This is so obvious that the number of downloads of the Telegram application in France and the USA has increased significantly.

    People don't believe these accusations and download the app to make sure for themselves. Do you think that the application is downloaded to get access to all these things?

    I'm ready to believe this story has led to an increase of number of downloads of the app in France, but by any chance, do you have a source for this?
    If that's true, what you said sounds like a French thing to do, download to see for yourself.

    (Edit for formating)

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited August 2024

    @rustelekom said:

    @emgh said:
    If Durov is such a freedom advocate why dosen't he make it E2EE?

    Dosen't make any sense

    He created his second successful startup and worked hard to be a visionary of Telegram, adding new features for users.

    As far as I know, Telegram follows the law of different countries. For example, in the EC, "the garden of freedom and democracy," they block many Russian channels for Europeans.

    That wasn't what I asked, I asked why they don't encrypt end to end by default

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @fredo1664 said:

    @rustelekom said:
    This is so obvious that the number of downloads of the Telegram application in France and the USA has increased significantly.

    People don't believe these accusations and download the app to make sure for themselves. Do you think that the application is downloaded to get access to all these things?

    I'm ready to believe this story has led to an increase of number of downloads of the app in France, but by any chance, do you have a source for this?
    If that's true, what you said sounds like a French thing to do, download to see for yourself.

    (Edit for formating)

    I've been using Telegram since 2012 or 2013, so I don't need to download it.

    As for statistics, I read a post on the Russian news channel. You can find this news yourself. I think it's easy. I found it right away. Here's the link: https://globaleuronews.com/2024/08/27/telegram-downloads-rise-in-france-and-us-after-durov's-detention/

  • @rustelekom said:

    @fredo1664 said:

    @rustelekom said:
    This is so obvious that the number of downloads of the Telegram application in France and the USA has increased significantly.

    People don't believe these accusations and download the app to make sure for themselves. Do you think that the application is downloaded to get access to all these things?

    I'm ready to believe this story has led to an increase of number of downloads of the app in France, but by any chance, do you have a source for this?
    If that's true, what you said sounds like a French thing to do, download to see for yourself.

    (Edit for formating)

    I've been using Telegram since 2012 or 2013, so I don't need to download it.

    As for statistics, I read a post on the Russian news channel. You can find this news yourself. I think it's easy. I found it right away. Here's the link: https://globaleuronews.com/2024/08/27/telegram-downloads-rise-in-france-and-us-after-durov's-detention/

    Sorry the "download to see for yourself" was not directed at you, I probably should have used colons instead of a comma. I meant to say that downloading to see for oneself was something I believe French people would do, hence I was happy to believe that the number of downloads of the app had significantly increased.

    It's the first time I encounter "globaleuronews.com" but I'll give it a go thanks.

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @fredo1664 said:

    Sorry the "download to see for yourself" was not directed at you, I probably should have used colons instead of a comma. I meant to say that downloading to see for oneself was something I believe French people would do, hence I was happy to believe that the number of downloads of the app had significantly increased.

    It's the first time I encounter "globaleuronews.com" but I'll give it a go thanks.

    How about https://techcrunch.com/2024/08/26/durov-arrest-boosts-telegram-app-downloads/

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  • total 30 people worked on telegram official. so it is obvious that content moderation is hard for them. they should hire some LowEnd staff from here to avoid any legal issue and content moderation

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  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @fredo1664 said:

    I know that Macron gave the order to block Russia Today on French cable and satellite TV. In fact, this happened in France in 2017 or 2018 and later in other EU countries. The elite don't want ordinary people hearing a different opinion.

  • @emgh said:
    If Durov is such a freedom advocate why dosen't he make it E2EE?

    Dosen't make any sense

    Durov sold the promise of "privacy and free speech," but he only meant "privacy and free speech" for westerners at home. Of course the Ru government can take whatever it wants. Same old, same old.

  • @Nebes said:

    @mikei said:
    Durov don't pirate it, and it's not a VK policy. It's a user submitted content that is subject to moderation.

    Initially, they didn't moderate any content, which is why VK became so popular. Unfortunately, it turned into a highly illegal platform where it was easy to find anything, including CP. Now, it has cleaned up its act, and the same will happen with Telegram.

    It has become popular in Russia only, because it's a Russian social network and it's much better than Facebook. It's obviously not a highly illegal platform. Illegal activity can be anywhere until it gets caught.

  • ArkasArkas Member, Retired Moderator

    This thread has served its purpose and is now completely derailed. Closed.

This discussion has been closed.