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Seeking High-Quality Anti-DDoS Protection for Gaming Servers
Hello,
I'm in the process of establishing a new company that will operate across much of Europe, primarily providing gaming servers, which are particularly vulnerable to UDP-based DDoS attacks due to the difficulty in filtering such traffic. I’m currently seeking a reliable partner who can offer a VPS solely dedicated to filtering DDoS attacks through a GRE tunnel. A 1 Gbps internet connection should suffice, as our dedicated server won't exceed that capacity. The server is currently located in Germany.
Initially, I was considering VPS services from OVH, but they are currently facing supply shortages. Additionally, I’ve read in various discussions that OVH might still be susceptible to DDoS attacks within their internal network. Can anyone confirm if this is true?
Are there any trustworthy alternatives to OVH that you would recommend? I've heard about Path.net, but there are rumors about financial instability and unpaid bills, which casts doubt on their long-term viability. Another option is Voxility’s direct GRE protection, but unfortunately, it is currently beyond my budget.
Thanks in advance for any tips or offers.
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Reach out to @RoyaleHosting.
https://royalehosting.net/
This depends on the game you're looking to host. Linode for example has Coreo DDoS protection, and will probably satisfy your budget requirements but Coreo doesn't do too many game-specific filters, if you're looking for game-specific stuff Path might be your only option unfortunately.
Thank you for the recommendation, I have contacted them.
Linode will also have trouble properly filtering DDoS attacks. I think it's because the attacks aren't that big and get directly to the game server.
https://www.linode.com/community/questions/20691/game-server-ddos-steam-ue4
I'm still thinking about Vultr or DigitalOcean, do you have experience with it?
You can take a look at our VPS line which includes DDoS Protection https://cloudblast.io/pricing.
Otherwise with @RoyaleHosting you cannot go wrong.
Thank you for the mention!
Let me know if you have any further questions
we are happy to help
Thank you for the mention
https://stormwall.network/
GCore or Path , otherwise dont waste time and money.
Voxility is too expensive? They are a pretty cheap option. Most people wouldnt consider the protection they offer particularly advanced / quality (etc), it is volumous though.
Why is filtering UDP attacks "difficult" for your application?
@Zare @Clouvider both premium. Not the cheapest but you get what you pay for.
We offer a Premium DDoD Protection with a capability of 3,2 Tbit/s. You can manage the settings via the interface for each IP. We offer GRE, but also Dedicated Servers, Colocation and reselling. Drop us a PM if you are interested.
The game protection from OVHs game range is very good, what region are you finding supply issues? Almost every server is available in all locations
Voxility is cheap? I wouldn't consider ~ 1 EUR per Mbps cheap. Even if you commit > 10G 95/5, you'll still end up with around 0,70 EUR / Mbps. You are right, Voxility is far from advanced. Their mitigation approach is based on rate limits and some payload verification.
All the alternatives have big downsides compared to path, which is why people complain about them here instead of just going with an alternative. I would still not recommend path though.
I can definetely recommend NeoProtect, they can set up a GRE tunnel for you and I'm pretty sure they have low latency within Germany
Thank you all for your comments, I really appreciate it! You’re awesome.
Unfortunately, this is beyond my financial means. But I understand that real Anti-DDoS protection is quite expensive, and it’s entirely justified—those servers, equipment, and infrastructure cost money; it's not free.
I understand, but I’m assuming the prices will be the same as Voxility's, if not higher.
In my opinion, UDP is hard to process. It contains large and complex packets that are harder to filter than standard TCP web packets, but I could be wrong.
I understand.
Unfortunately, I don't know you. Do you have any references? I've already tried many different providers who claimed to be the best, but in the end, their protection failed to respond in time, which only harmed the game servers (lags, player disconnections, high ping, etc.).
I want to use a VPS for the GRE tunnel; it’s the most cost-effective solution for me, including fast deployment.
I'm currently trying RoyaleHosting, and the ping averages around 30-33 in Europe after deploying the GRE tunnel.
NeoProtect seems like a really good plan, especially the one for €30, but I’ve never heard of them. I don’t know what kind of references they have or if they could solve my problem. Are you satisfied with them?
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Yes, we've been using them for a few months now and we're really satisfied with them - support is very responsive and proactive, they will improve their filters if they see too much traffic passing by during attacks and they are registered working on updates and new features. We currently have a physical connection with them, but a GRE tunnel shouldn't be much different. They also have a control panel (now in beta) where you can view a lot of details about DDoS attacks and add up to 20 ACLs per IP address (whitelist/blacklist by countries/source IP/ports, add additional filters, etc.)
Before trying them out we used Path and Voxility - based on our experience, NeoProtect beats both of them by a landslide
New? They're fucking dinosaurs. Older than i3d/Staminus/Black Lotus and had anti-ddos before OVHCloud and @seflow did.
They were called as another name prior founding of the current company. World of Tanks used them since 2010.
Speaking of @seflow They're also pretty good.
Basically the path.net alternative with less drama around itself and seemingly something the path.net is somewhat paranoid of.
Many do actually, its just mostly corporate and/or government. So mostly "boring stuff" like websites, mysql, etc.
Basically the best for Asia. They also run godedicated and streamlineservers.
New and upcoming. Became mainstream in 2023 after they ditched their 100% serverius anti-ddos. But was popular since 2020 locally in the netherlands. Owner is super young and they were featured locally as youth company since they started very young.
Nowdays infinitely more professional.
About as good as CosmicGuard in terms of protection I would say, but their user interface is insanely good.
That's some dedication.
Given the challenges you've mentioned, it might be worth exploring options like OVH, which is often highly recommended for DDoS protection. I understand the importance of reliability, so I hope you find the perfect partner to keep your servers safe and your gamers happy.
If you wanted OVH specifically @FlorinMarian sells OVH Game VPS based in Germany you could use for a GRE tunnel or to host the game servers directly, saving the need for the tunnel at a lower cost than a OVH game dedicated server
Regardless what you pick, it needs to be highly customized. You're not looking to setup an ark server or teamspeak 3, but instead everything imaginable. So ensure that the provider gives you proper tools to configure stuff yourself on network level.
Just wanted to clarify, the pictures you are using were from an event that I organized to raise money for cancer research, it is in no way related to RoyaleHosting, and those pictures were made well over 6 years ago, we have never been featured locally as a youth company (I am currently 20).
I founded RoyaleHosting in 2017 and have been building on our network since 2021, our protection is based on multiple layers such as Corero, Edge rules, and In-house protection based on DPDK, we completely own this network and operate it ourselves, directly using T1 providers as upstreams (NTT, Arelion, Liberty Global) and we are also adding Orange to our transit blend, we are also connected to all the major IX's within the Netherlands, with well over 3Tbps of connected capacity currently in Amsterdam, we are also working on releasing new locations in the near future such as Frankfurt and London, as well as Los Angeles in the USA.
You can see more about our partnership with for example corero here: https://www.corero.com/corero-network-security-announces-royalehosting-partnership/, https://www.linkedin.com/posts/corero_ddos-cybersecurity-partnership-activity-7234620814279487491-QeQO?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop
''About as good as CosmicGuard in terms of protection I would say, but their user interface is insanely good.
That's some dedication.''
Thank you for the compliment!
More updates will be released soon for the protection panel, we recently released an update reworking the UI/UX, offering a live overview on the homepage of mitigation events, and adding the preset system.
I'm talking about their anycast ddos protection, that is a relatively new product. I've seen hosts like vibegames just switch to them from path and every month there's a network problem because they are still fiddling around with the system.
If they are seeking to block the biggest ddoses 2 pops isn't enough, and their NY location doesn't even have the same transits. It's going to be a long time before they have enough pops to be considered a suitable replacement for path let alone cosmic, unless they somehow get millions in funding.
You could check out GoDedicated which is part of GSL last I remember. Decent pricing and it gives you access to their network.
Scratch that, looks like they only have Sydney available for VPS.
As far as I know, @RoyaleHosting is working hard to move New York to the new blend, excl. LibertyGlobal for obvious reasons. From what I understand, Stan wishes to visit NY in person in the coming weeks and finish the final touches until it can migrate to the new blend. I can't entirely agree with your statement that blocking large attacks with two POPs is impossible. More locations (and, of course, anycasting) make it easier to handle volumetric attacks, but as we've seen with other companies, it's not always that simple. Overall, software matters the most, which everyone, for some reason, is crap at. By all means, it's insane how much capacity Stan has in the Netherlands, being one of the largest networks in the Netherlands. I hope to see New York and his protection improve as it has been for a while. There are some issues with the protection running unconfigured/stock, but most of the time, they can be rectified using Shield Panel or opening a ticket. Overall, RoyaleHosting's services will be fine/better than competitors for most customers.
Theyre solid choice at low cost, but I also hear stuff like that where they just YOLO the first configuration and you need to open ticket to get it corrected. Here comes the issue 2: They allegedly prioritize NL customers.
RoyaleHosting is low cost? That's new.
For me, I can believe your statement that the first (recommended) configuration of the DDoS Protection is having difficulties, even with in-depth explanations of your use case and what you need. It happened to a close friend of mine recently, which was unfortunate. I feel the issue came from Stan skimming the ticket and not putting in as much time as it required. I still think Stan needs to hire new employees, especially if he wants to open up new locations. I don't see why he would prioritize Dutch customers unless you mean customers for the Netherlands location, which makes sense as New York is currently a smaller location with a smaller clientele, though arguably due to a lack of advertising and competitiveness on Stan's part.