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I want a 100GB VM with IPv4

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  • conceptconcept Member
    edited August 2024

    @AXYZE said:
    Scaleway Glacier will cost you 2.4euro / year for 100GB/year, but because its billed by GB you'll likely pay less.

    Never realized that Scaleway's object storage is that cheap. I might start migrating my stuff over to them.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • itsTomHarperitsTomHarper Member, Megathread Squad

    @AXYZE said:

    @emgh said:

    @Hotmarer said:

    @emgh said:
    @Hotmarer it literally says "C1V Basic AI setup" in the cart, I don't want an AI :D

    That mean your server will by automatic provisioned using Italian students AI.

    But seriously, do you really need vm? Why not ftp/s3 access?

    I much prefer B2 or R2 to another VPS but Runcloud only allows SFTP or S3 though AWS for backups on their Basic package.

    So if I want S3 I have to use AWS, I worked with some AWS stuff but I always found everything about it convoluted. Might do that though.

    Mount S3 as local folder with JuiceFS / s3fs / rclonemount and then use Backblaze B2 / Scaleway Glacier with 'Local Storage' option in RunCloud.

    More durable than any provider with RAID and cheaper.

    Scaleway Glacier will cost you 2.4euro / year for 100GB/year, but because its billed by GB you'll likely pay less.

    Does this include transfer cost? How did you end up with 2.4 / y?

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • ErisaErisa Member
    edited August 2024

    @itsTomHarper said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @emgh said:

    @Hotmarer said:

    @emgh said:
    @Hotmarer it literally says "C1V Basic AI setup" in the cart, I don't want an AI :D

    That mean your server will by automatic provisioned using Italian students AI.

    But seriously, do you really need vm? Why not ftp/s3 access?

    I much prefer B2 or R2 to another VPS but Runcloud only allows SFTP or S3 though AWS for backups on their Basic package.

    So if I want S3 I have to use AWS, I worked with some AWS stuff but I always found everything about it convoluted. Might do that though.

    Mount S3 as local folder with JuiceFS / s3fs / rclonemount and then use Backblaze B2 / Scaleway Glacier with 'Local Storage' option in RunCloud.

    More durable than any provider with RAID and cheaper.

    Scaleway Glacier will cost you 2.4euro / year for 100GB/year, but because its billed by GB you'll likely pay less.

    Does this include transfer cost? How did you end up with 2.4 / y?

    Ingressing(adding data) is free.

    It's when you retrieve data that they charge you €0.009/GB for the transfer back to standard tier and a further €0.01/GB for egress traffic after 75GB.

    Not sure how well Scaleway Glacier is going to work on a FS mount, in fact I know that JuiceFS wouldn't work with it, but if you're fine just throwing files at it and never retrieving them it is a decent service.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @Erisa said:

    @itsTomHarper said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @emgh said:

    @Hotmarer said:

    @emgh said:
    @Hotmarer it literally says "C1V Basic AI setup" in the cart, I don't want an AI :D

    That mean your server will by automatic provisioned using Italian students AI.

    But seriously, do you really need vm? Why not ftp/s3 access?

    I much prefer B2 or R2 to another VPS but Runcloud only allows SFTP or S3 though AWS for backups on their Basic package.

    So if I want S3 I have to use AWS, I worked with some AWS stuff but I always found everything about it convoluted. Might do that though.

    Mount S3 as local folder with JuiceFS / s3fs / rclonemount and then use Backblaze B2 / Scaleway Glacier with 'Local Storage' option in RunCloud.

    More durable than any provider with RAID and cheaper.

    Scaleway Glacier will cost you 2.4euro / year for 100GB/year, but because its billed by GB you'll likely pay less.

    Does this include transfer cost? How did you end up with 2.4 / y?

    but if you're fine just throwing files at it and never retrieving them it is a decent service.

    Heard of /dev/null?

  • Cloudflare R2 looks good too.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • ErisaErisa Member
    edited August 2024

    @emgh said:

    @Erisa said:

    @itsTomHarper said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @emgh said:

    @Hotmarer said:

    @emgh said:
    @Hotmarer it literally says "C1V Basic AI setup" in the cart, I don't want an AI :D

    That mean your server will by automatic provisioned using Italian students AI.

    But seriously, do you really need vm? Why not ftp/s3 access?

    I much prefer B2 or R2 to another VPS but Runcloud only allows SFTP or S3 though AWS for backups on their Basic package.

    So if I want S3 I have to use AWS, I worked with some AWS stuff but I always found everything about it convoluted. Might do that though.

    Mount S3 as local folder with JuiceFS / s3fs / rclonemount and then use Backblaze B2 / Scaleway Glacier with 'Local Storage' option in RunCloud.

    More durable than any provider with RAID and cheaper.

    Scaleway Glacier will cost you 2.4euro / year for 100GB/year, but because its billed by GB you'll likely pay less.

    Does this include transfer cost? How did you end up with 2.4 / y?

    but if you're fine just throwing files at it and never retrieving them it is a decent service.

    Heard of /dev/null?

    It is good but it only accepts data streams, I prefer https://github.com/abbbi/nullfsvfs if you have lots of files

    Thanked by 3emgh yoursunny xvps
  • @concept said:
    Cloudflare R2 looks good too.

    Why? The storage cost is high compared to alternatives, it's not useful for archival. Even the "infrequent use" tier is bad pricing for archival and then adds transfer fees to make it even worse.

    Already mentioned services like Backblaze B2 and Scaleway Glacier are far better choices for this usecase. If you have needs other than archival then that's a different story...

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @concept said:
    Cloudflare R2 looks good too.

    Yep, like it

    Although I will say Backblaze do have better lifecycle rules if you care about those (AWS probably too)

    With Cloudflare all I found was delete objects after x days (+ some specific ones)

    With Backblaze I can use ’Keep prior versions for this number of days’ which instead keeps duplicates for x amount of days as I understand it. Very useful (to me at least)

    Thanked by 1Erisa
  • i can host it in my basement .

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • conceptconcept Member
    edited August 2024

    I find R2 to be good if you don't want to worry about paying egress fees. If you want to store TBs of data, of course B2 is better.

    Thanked by 2emgh Erisa
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    Fuck it, I’m getting the @host_c VM as well. Too good to pass on. DM’d the guy with 37 minutes left of today😆

    Thanked by 2Xrmaddness host_c
  • @emgh said:
    Fuck it, I’m getting the @host_c VM as well. Too good to pass on. DM’d the guy with 37 minutes left of today😆

    +1 for @host_c
    only storage vps server where I am running Windows RDP

    Thanked by 2emgh host_c
  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @emgh said:

    @Erisa said:

    but if you're fine just throwing files at it and never retrieving them it is a decent service.

    Heard of /dev/null?

    /dev/null as a Service

    Thanked by 2Erisa emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @yoursunny said:

    @emgh said:

    @Erisa said:

    but if you're fine just throwing files at it and never retrieving them it is a decent service.

    Heard of /dev/null?

    /dev/null as a Service

    https://devnull-as-a-service.com/one-less-to-go.sh

    That’s funny😂

    Thanked by 2yoursunny xvps
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited August 2024

    YABS should have that, time it took to find, shuffle and remove a completely random file

  • JoshRJoshR Member, Patron Provider

    Hit me up. I can get ya squared away. 🙂

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • AXYZEAXYZE Member
    edited August 2024

    @itsTomHarper said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @emgh said:

    @Hotmarer said:

    @emgh said:
    @Hotmarer it literally says "C1V Basic AI setup" in the cart, I don't want an AI :D

    That mean your server will by automatic provisioned using Italian students AI.

    But seriously, do you really need vm? Why not ftp/s3 access?

    I much prefer B2 or R2 to another VPS but Runcloud only allows SFTP or S3 though AWS for backups on their Basic package.

    So if I want S3 I have to use AWS, I worked with some AWS stuff but I always found everything about it convoluted. Might do that though.

    Mount S3 as local folder with JuiceFS / s3fs / rclonemount and then use Backblaze B2 / Scaleway Glacier with 'Local Storage' option in RunCloud.

    More durable than any provider with RAID and cheaper.

    Scaleway Glacier will cost you 2.4euro / year for 100GB/year, but because its billed by GB you'll likely pay less.

    Does this include transfer cost? How did you end up with 2.4 / y?

    Its 2euro/TB/mo

    He has 100GB so 0.2euro

    0.2euro x 12 = 2.4euro

    Ingress is free and in terms of egress its paid, but as @emgh aaid its seondary backup so it likely wont be used.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • @Erisa said:

    @itsTomHarper said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @emgh said:

    @Hotmarer said:

    @emgh said:
    @Hotmarer it literally says "C1V Basic AI setup" in the cart, I don't want an AI :D

    That mean your server will by automatic provisioned using Italian students AI.

    But seriously, do you really need vm? Why not ftp/s3 access?

    I much prefer B2 or R2 to another VPS but Runcloud only allows SFTP or S3 though AWS for backups on their Basic package.

    So if I want S3 I have to use AWS, I worked with some AWS stuff but I always found everything about it convoluted. Might do that though.

    Mount S3 as local folder with JuiceFS / s3fs / rclonemount and then use Backblaze B2 / Scaleway Glacier with 'Local Storage' option in RunCloud.

    More durable than any provider with RAID and cheaper.

    Scaleway Glacier will cost you 2.4euro / year for 100GB/year, but because its billed by GB you'll likely pay less.

    Does this include transfer cost? How did you end up with 2.4 / y?

    Ingressing(adding data) is free.

    It's when you retrieve data that they charge you €0.009/GB for the transfer back to standard tier and a further €0.01/GB for egress traffic after 75GB.

    Not sure how well Scaleway Glacier is going to work on a FS mount, in fact I know that JuiceFS wouldn't work with it, but if you're fine just throwing files at it and never retrieving them it is a decent service.

    You could bypass €0.01/GB fee by renting Stardust instance (unmetered traffic), mounting drive there and then mounting Stardust as SFTP via rclone. I didnt mention egress as OP mentioned its a secondary backup and likely wont be needed, but I think that price is low that it can be 3rd backup. B2 + Scaleway Glacier seem like great combo and if you'll add Hetzner to the mix its unbreakable

    Glacier is S3-compatible, Im not sure why it didnt work with JuiceFS for you. In couple of weeks I'll add it as secondary backup and I'll use FS mount, so if it wont work I'll hopefully figure it out and let you know how to make it work.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • @AXYZE said: Glacier is S3-compatible, Im not sure why it didnt work with JuiceFS for you

    I think that I stand corrected on this front after reading the documentation, however I still think it is perhaps not well suited to a filesystem due to reading data back requiring requesting it be transferred back to standard and then waiting what can be hours. However I suppose if your application thats writing to the directory doesn't care about not being able to read files back after writing them, it could work. Feel free to share your findings!

    Thanked by 2emgh AXYZE
  • @Erisa said:

    @AXYZE said: Glacier is S3-compatible, Im not sure why it didnt work with JuiceFS for you

    I think that I stand corrected on this front after reading the documentation, however I still think it is perhaps not well suited to a filesystem due to reading data back requiring requesting it be transferred back to standard and then waiting what can be hours. However I suppose if your application thats writing to the directory doesn't care about not being able to read files back after writing them, it could work. Feel free to share your findings!

    Oh yes, maybe JuiceFS tried to create a read cache and that caused problem? This is a possibility, but at the same time if you have more barebones s3 mount without cache for example rclone mount it should work fine :)

    Thanked by 2Erisa emgh
  • ErisaErisa Member
    edited August 2024

    @AXYZE said: more barebones s3 mount without cache for example rclone mount it should work fine

    Yeah that's probably a better way of doing it, the extra considerations for JuiceFS don't strike me as worthwhile if you're using a glacier tier. You just need a place to throw files, which rclone can provide

    Thanked by 2AXYZE emgh
  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad

    @emgh said: Fuck it, I’m getting the @host_c VM as well. Too good to pass on. DM’d the guy with 37 minutes left of today😆

    .....................................----------------> DM......................................

    Thanked by 2emgh dev_vps
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