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Telegram founder Pavel Durov Arrested
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Media in lithuania already announced that Nikolay and Pavel is inder the order to be arested. Look for ELTA or BNS news.
Nikolai probably doesn't travel as much as Pavel, and he also isn't a French citizen, so he's probably pretty safe
I haven't yet found a reliable reference that Nikolai is a wanted man
Highly questionable source, but still:
https://www.politico.eu/article/exclusive-telegram-ceo-brother-nikolai-durov-wanted-france-authorities-pavel-durov/
Are you certain about this?
I mean, it's in the very nature of satire that the truth is a bit distorted! They protect themselves by calling themselves a satirical newspaper!
I'll accept this -- thanks
The following (from that article) sounds pretty sinister:
Well they have a solid reputation, and their revelations have often led to scandals. Since they usually target the government or the "powerful" people, they are often sued, but they rarely lose because their investigations are thorough. (I'm half quoting Wikipedia).
According to French TV channel BFM, quoting AFP (Agence France Presse), a judge has ended the detention. The judge will see Durov and decide what's next (is there enough to the case to start an investigation? If so, should Durov be kept in detention? etc.)
https://www.bfmtv.com/tech/actualites/reseaux-sociaux/fin-de-garde-a-vue-pour-pavel-durov-le-patron-de-telegram-transfere-a-la-justice_AD-202408280531.html
I'm just surprised why they were so unprepared for the trial. Usually, when the police request the court to make an arrest, they already have sufficient hard evidence to support the arrest.
What trial? That's like chit-chat in the bar
You're jumping ahead 
There’s absolutely no need to have hard evidence to detain someone. Ever heard of interrogation, investigation, etc.?
From the 3rd page of this discussion:
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For now, he's just detained as a suspect, and it's not even clear if charges will be filed. This is a completely normal procedure.
Hope that they do not find as evidence some narco:)
lol you must be american, right?
Who can tell... At least they wouldn't send him to a penal colony over a joint or two, unlike in specific eastern European / transcontinental country ;-)
Le Monde just published an article saying that Durov was indicted tonight for all twelve offenses.
He won't be jailed but he is placed under judicial supervision, with the obligation to post a bond of 5 million euros, report to the police station twice a week, and he is forbidden to leave French territory.
(Deepl.com helped with the translation, so I don't create more confusion with my English)
Edit: the New York Times has an article in English: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/28/business/telegram-ceo-pavel-durov-charged.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb
So, France will now put pressure on Telegram, taking advantage of the fact that they have such a valuable hostage in their hands.
Well, I think Durov can survive this, because he can walk through the remnants of beautiful Paris.
I wish him strength in defending his position.
Yes, our laws are strictly against any drug use. If you are a "drug dealer", you may receive more than 15 years in prison. Therefore, I guess you don't find drug dealers on our streets.
So, do you have home delivery then?
In Russia, the most advanced method is used. You can order drug delivery and they will tell you where to pick them up. The point can be anywhere - an opening in a building, under a bush or next to a tree, and, of course, not far from your location. You don't have direct contact with anyone - everything is done remotely, including via Telegram.
Unfortunately, high technology causes not only positive features.
But, of course, the Durov case in France has nothing to do with the fight against drugs. As usual, the government just wants to read your messages, listen to your calls, and nothing more. Continuously, without interruption and without any control. The bullshit about community control is just bullshit. Just recall how Assange was controlled by the CIA at the Ecuador embassy. Recall also secret court decisions in the USA.
We, in Russia, were very naive, thinking that control over society was inherent only to the USSR and its terrible KGB. The Western countries have shown that they are not better.
SMH. You deserve what you get.
Why? Which rule did he break?
Macron said (from Serbia where he is selling Rafales) that he backed the decision to give Durov the French citizenship. I understand it's a strategy to attract innovators, artists etc. who made the effort to learn the language and have asked to be given the citizenship.
He also said he didn't know Durov was coming to France and that he had no plan to meet with him.
https://www.politico.eu/article/macron-finally-admits-he-gave-telegram-chief-pavel-durov-french-citizenship/
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/article/2024/08/29/macron-defends-giving-telegram-s-pavel-durov-a-french-passport_6723524_7.html
This is pure speculation (pure fiction?) but I wonder if some intelligence agency tricked Durov into thinking he was invited
That's what they would do in a movie.
Governments, including those who claim to be "democratic" or "defenders of freedom of speech", remain the state. The state, regardless of its form, remains an instrument of oppression of society. While the level of oppression may vary, the difference between these levels is not as significant as it once was.
You may agree or disagree, but states are increasingly becoming defenders of the interests of elites and not their own people.
Elites have become a new breed of humanity, perhaps they should be called "homo elitis" instead of "homo sapiens". After all, how many people can afford flying business jets, owning vast amounts of real estate and having immense wealth?
Their children receive the finest education, attend elite schools and universities, and their children's children continue this cycle. 1% of the world's population owns 99% of all wealth on Earth.
Back to topic subject, please read this article:
https://x.com/BasedTorba/status/1828093953620545539
I personally don't need anything from the list. Durov started Vkontakte by pirating music, and now he's pirating freedom. He is a scammer.
What you mean under "pirating freedom"? Freedom is freedom, and just because someone called a girl or a young man as fat or Biden as an old man out of his mind, you can't hold a person accountable, especially criminally.
the only scammers in music are the labels that nickel and dime consumers and pocket the hard work of artists
Not only that. You have forgotten about pharmaceutical companies.
In fact, Vkontakte was just another way to distribute pirated content, like any other site, social network or even messenger.
But until 2022 most Russians used various movie services. For instance, I am using two right now.
After 2022, when the American film industry decided not to licence its content for Russian online services, pirated content started to be distributed again on Vkontakte.
BTW. I found such channels on YouTube that distribute pirated versions of movies.
But this does not mean that YouTube distributes pirated content. It only means that it does not have enough moderators. To blame YouTube for this is foolish.
The issue of moderation is complicated. For example, in the West, you can get into trouble for saying that there are only two genders - male and female - or doubting the need for COVID-19 vaccines.
i didnt realise pfizer sold taylor swift albums
People say that Taylor Swift is the result of massive money investment. I don't know what people find in her singing, but it's just my personal opinion.
I recall western pharmaceutical companies, because they blame many Indian pharmaceutical companies for producing unlicensed medications, or "pirated" medication, in other words.
She's real good, she's an author of her songs, she's different in a way she's more normal than other ugly ones. My recent joke to the same question, "Russians don't eat country, they eat eurodisco and rock". But I agree, with just that okay singing you can't get stadiums. She's a project/investment. Just wait when she endorse Kamala with her millions of Instagram followers! Remember what U2 were bred for.
Durov don't pirate it, and it's not a VK policy. It's a user submitted content that is subject to moderation. Actually, pirating is kinda good for freedom. ART BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE. Earn on live concerts and collectibles. Distributed content is your marketing expense you actually have to pay for.
P.S. All of the above doesn't mean that I agree with or it's my opinion. It's just logic.
Pirating freedom lets people get around censorship and often make money from illegal activities. In Telegram, some people are fighting for their freedom while others are selling drugs. And Durov is profiting from both.