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Telegram founder Pavel Durov Arrested
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A business investment would typically involve a registered company. I did a quick search on https://data.inpi.fr/ but didn't find anything. However, it might be registered with a different business entity as the owner.
if it was made on behalf of a business entity i doubt it would have resulted in citizenship of pavel in his capacity as a person. would make more sense for it to be a personal investment in his name, no?
Investment visa has withdrawn in many european countries with a bullshit reason (for example, because you are suspected to have friendship with Putin). That is bullshit of course because Putin do not has a friend, at least with businessman.
Lot of ordinary russians by fact lost their equity in Baltic countries, Finland, Spain etc. just because they are russians.
Europe will not trusted anymore in any aspect.
I think that his name in France is Paul du Rove, but in any case, I imagine that wealthy people have ways of hiding this information from the public eye
French Tech Visa program for investors:
https://lafrenchtech.gouv.fr/en/come-work-in-france/french-tech-visa/
very interesting, thanks for sharing
i thought that was a meme lmao did he really change his name for that
Nope it's a joke he made.
The decree of naturalisation has this name : "DUROV (Pavel), né le 10/10/1984 à Léningrad, République de Russie (U R S S), NAT, 2021X 012723, dép. 99,
Dt. 029/471.
"
Link to the decree: https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/jorf/id/JORFTEXT000043965774
Ah, so it was just a joke, I am disappoint*
*disappointed
Actually he said he jokingly asked for his name to be changed once he got the citizenship, and according to him that request was accepted.
Wait, so it's not a joke after all?! Now I am confuse*
*confused
So he didn't have to change his name to get the citizenship, and the citizenship was granted without a name change. He got a first passport with his name (well, in roman alphabet).
Then he apparently jokingly filled the form to change his name.
Then apparently the change was granted and his passport re-issued (all this is according to him).
Then he joked about the name change.
Sorry I was confused too.
Europe sure be crying about putler-lovers™ not trusting it anymore... 🤭
what remark lmao, the word "retard" ?
You called Ukrainians retards. You have a history of being a dick. Choose your next words carefully.
Thank you.
In 2024! it is not good news at all.
Europeans will complain about insufficient resources, high costs of everything, and overcrowding with migrants.
Normal people will not even invest one cent in a territory where the law does not work.
And normal people is not putin lovers, that is only claim f western propaganda bullshit. That is demagogic, liberal style arguments which used every time when they angry with usual logic. If you against fake COVID19 pandemia, fake and moreover, untested properly vaccine, tried refuse stupid claims that Trump is russian spy and so on so on you will immediately marked as "putin lovers".
I don't know why France has taken such a rude action against Durov. They claim that he is probably the worst criminal in the world, according to the list of the Prosecutor's Office. I am sure that this was just an excuse to explain why he was arrested, like a Latin American narco-baron. Let's wait and see for their further explanations.
I've already made popcorn.
Ok, there already is a thread about that. Come on people, why turn news into another war thread? If this continues, this thread will be closed.
Ah got it, ty for letting me know that "retard" is where you draw the line. I will stick to calling them nazis from now on
Credits to @Arkas for bothering with all this nonsense
Keep it on topic for his sake
Actually, France just uses standard police practices as I said above: even though Durov has multiple citizenships, French police choose the French citizenship. Why is that? Because it gives the police access to procedures that are usually used against anyone suspected of a crime with French citizenship. A suspected person can request assistance from local lawyers.
However, the consulate cannot contact Durov. This makes Durov's situation more difficult, as he will lose support from external parties not involved in French interests.
Time for this arrest (which has been extended until August 28 but can be extended again by French law) is being used by the police to oppress Durov. There is no doubt about this. The police are doing this anywhere.
I don't know what they need from Durov; maybe they want him to provide some evidence for a case they are investigating, or maybe they need him to set up a Telegram office in France.
Despite the fact that Macron claims that this case is not political, the circumstances of this arrest - the way it happened, the accusations made and the obvious absurdity of those accusations - allow me to disagree with him.
@rustelekom I don't think french police "choose" the french citizenship, it's probably more binary: "Is this guy a french citizen or not?" - I don't see why other citizenships would matter to them in this context.
I have already explained this to you, but I can repeat it again. If a person has multiple citizenships, they have more options for support.
Just think about how much support Brittney Griner and Paul Whelan received from western media. Even John Biden requested their release.
But they both violated Russian law - the girl returned to Russia with cannabis (which is not allowed in Russian law) and Paul had a fight with local police, as far as I remember.
People can request whatever they want, it dosen’t matter.
Donald Trump requested for ASAP Rocky to be released in Sweden, guess what, he wasn’t. And he wasn’t even a swedish citizen.
Can you name a single country who doesn't do this? Every country that I know of, does not care if you're a dual citizen.
Well, Durov will be netter in french jail than in front lines…
Based on what has been reported so far, as far as I can tell, there's nothing at all that is "obviously absurd"
There seem to be two main camps regarding Durov:
It does matter. Here in Russia this call as interference with justice.
Sure, all the countries do it. I just try to draw your attention to what happened in the media. For example, Brittney Griner was portrayed in Western media as a saintly figure. She is a good basketball player and she is simply an ordinary American girl who went to high school, and we all know that marijuana is very popular there. She mistakenly (probably) brought marijuana with her to Russia. This is a violation of Russian law. As a result, she was brought to court and imprisoned. This is a real fact. However, if you read the American media, you might think that she saved the whole democratic world from the mordor of Russia.
I suspect that this is propaganda that was created in order to keep him in prison as long as possible. Simply because such arguments can be used against anyone: Trump, Musk, and even after Zuckerberg's confession (read above), this sweet and harmless Jewish boy. This is a very dangerous path - it leads directly to repression.
BTW, what do you think will be taken into account in an American court by the facts explained by Zuckerberg? I'm not American and I'm no lawyer, but the list of crimes looks pretty big.
As opposed to what? A dangerous Jewish boy? Why are you mentioning his religion?