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Telegram founder Pavel Durov Arrested

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  • @WhiteRoseG said:

    @ehhthing said:
    I think it's fair to say that a social media platform like Telegram should have some minimal amount of moderation. In the case of Telegram there is almost zero.

    It's pretty telling that no other social media CEO has ever been arrested for issues like this, because as far as I'm aware literally every other social media platform has more stringent moderation standards than Telegram.

    If X, Rumble, Truth Social and Gab don't have this problem, then Telegram must be really awful for prosecutors to want to prosecute this case.

    So you want censorship, and yes the other platforms are all from western country's so yes they will not get arrested, how is it possible another country will prosecute me while I didn't even commit a crime in there country I was not even there ? You see this more often lately it's a bad thing happening.

    Moderation isn't censorship. This is also a private enterprise, not government. You also need to abide by Telegram's terms of service.

    So many willfully ignorant and/or obtuse people it's fucking crazy. You can't cite free speech to protect drug deals and other crimes to avoid each country's laws. If you can't abide by a country's laws, GTFO of it.

    Are you a kid or just naive?

  • @rustelekom said:

    @stefeman said:

    There are no political differences between the West, East or South. Only the interests of elites really exist. Slogans about democracy, freedom of speech and equality are, alas, just slogans that are used to confuse ordinary people's minds.

    You're a sad, sad man. I pity your brainwashed mind.

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  • @rustelekom said:
    BTW. His girlfriend also is arrested. Interesting for what:)? May be because Macron do not love woman?

    Russian logic.

    SMH. I'm sure your family is quite embarrassed by you.

  • @rustelekom said:
    Drivers in Canada, people who had nothing to do with the American Capitol, and people who criticized the grand lies about the COVID-19 pandemic and vaccination, continue to be imprisoned and lose their businesses and professions due to similar accusations and lies.

    Therefore, shut up and keep quiet.

    You're not even Canadian or know wtf you're talking about. You can STFU. Pathetic little man.

  • @TimboJones said:

    @rustelekom said:
    BTW. His girlfriend also is arrested. Interesting for what:)? May be because Macron do not love woman?

    Russian logic.

    Logic can't be maybe )))
    2. It can't be ethnic.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

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  • rskrsk Member, Host Rep

    @TimboJones said:

    @rustelekom said:
    Drivers in Canada, people who had nothing to do with the American Capitol, and people who criticized the grand lies about the COVID-19 pandemic and vaccination, continue to be imprisoned and lose their businesses and professions due to similar accusations and lies.

    Therefore, shut up and keep quiet.

    You're not even Canadian or know wtf you're talking about. You can STFU. Pathetic little man.

    He just stated a point. Why is everyone attacking @rustelekom ? Maybe moderators need to step in at this point? It feels like it is becoming the wild west ...

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  • ehhthingehhthing Member
    edited August 2024

    @rsk said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @rustelekom said:
    Drivers in Canada, people who had nothing to do with the American Capitol, and people who criticized the grand lies about the COVID-19 pandemic and vaccination, continue to be imprisoned and lose their businesses and professions due to similar accusations and lies.

    Therefore, shut up and keep quiet.

    You're not even Canadian or know wtf you're talking about. You can STFU. Pathetic little man.

    He just stated a point. Why is everyone attacking @rustelekom ? Maybe moderators need to step in at this point? It feels like it is becoming the wild west ...

    "Therefore shut up and keep quiet" is not a point.

    Also there's some amount of irony in calling for moderators while the entire debate is about free speech on social media platforms...

    You can't both have moderators and "free speech" or whatever @rustelekom is advocating for.

  • xaocxaoc Member

    @rsk said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @rustelekom said:
    Drivers in Canada, people who had nothing to do with the American Capitol, and people who criticized the grand lies about the COVID-19 pandemic and vaccination, continue to be imprisoned and lose their businesses and professions due to similar accusations and lies.

    Therefore, shut up and keep quiet.

    You're not even Canadian or know wtf you're talking about. You can STFU. Pathetic little man.

    Why is everyone attacking @rustelekom ?

    Are you trying to protect him because he's a 'provider,' or because he's a putler-lover™ spreading his ruzzian propaganda by spreading hate about other countries and people?

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  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @rsk said: He just stated a point. Why is everyone attacking @rustelekom ?

    If you haven't realized that by now, you just won't get it.

  • rskrsk Member, Host Rep
    edited August 2024

    @xaoc said:

    @rsk said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @rustelekom said:
    Drivers in Canada, people who had nothing to do with the American Capitol, and people who criticized the grand lies about the COVID-19 pandemic and vaccination, continue to be imprisoned and lose their businesses and professions due to similar accusations and lies.

    Therefore, shut up and keep quiet.

    You're not even Canadian or know wtf you're talking about. You can STFU. Pathetic little man.

    Why is everyone attacking @rustelekom ?

    Are you trying to protect him because he's a 'provider,' or because he's a putler-lover™ spreading his ruzzian propaganda by spreading hate about other countries and people?

    I am in no way protecting him, this is probably my first interaction with him anyway, and he can defend himself. I think my parents have taught me well, and this is not how normal humans talk to each other :)

    Just because he is sharing his view, doesn't mean he deserves to get punched and kicked down. You can share your view too, nothing against it at all.

    I don't take sides, and the Russia v. Ukraine thread exists for a reason.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited August 2024

    @rsk said:

    @xaoc said:

    @rsk said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @rustelekom said:
    Drivers in Canada, people who had nothing to do with the American Capitol, and people who criticized the grand lies about the COVID-19 pandemic and vaccination, continue to be imprisoned and lose their businesses and professions due to similar accusations and lies.

    Therefore, shut up and keep quiet.

    You're not even Canadian or know wtf you're talking about. You can STFU. Pathetic little man.

    Why is everyone attacking @rustelekom ?

    Are you trying to protect him because he's a 'provider,' or because he's a putler-lover™ spreading his ruzzian propaganda by spreading hate about other countries and people?

    I am in no way protecting him, this is probably my first interaction with him anyway, and he can defend himself. I think my parents have taught me well, and this is not how normal humans talk to each other :)

    Just because he is sharing his view, doesn't mean he deserves to get punched and kicked down. You can share your view too, nothing against it at all.

    I don't take sides, and the Russia v. Ukraine thread exists for a reason.

    So he can tell people to shut up but people cannot tell him anything like it? Then the mods should step in?

    Bruh

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  • rskrsk Member, Host Rep

    @emgh said:

    @rsk said:

    @xaoc said:

    @rsk said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @rustelekom said:
    Drivers in Canada, people who had nothing to do with the American Capitol, and people who criticized the grand lies about the COVID-19 pandemic and vaccination, continue to be imprisoned and lose their businesses and professions due to similar accusations and lies.

    Therefore, shut up and keep quiet.

    You're not even Canadian or know wtf you're talking about. You can STFU. Pathetic little man.

    Why is everyone attacking @rustelekom ?

    Are you trying to protect him because he's a 'provider,' or because he's a putler-lover™ spreading his ruzzian propaganda by spreading hate about other countries and people?

    I am in no way protecting him, this is probably my first interaction with him anyway, and he can defend himself. I think my parents have taught me well, and this is not how normal humans talk to each other :)

    Just because he is sharing his view, doesn't mean he deserves to get punched and kicked down. You can share your view too, nothing against it at all.

    I don't take sides, and the Russia v. Ukraine thread exists for a reason.

    So he can tell people to shut up but people cannot tell him anything like it? Then the mods should step in?

    Bruh

    @emgh said:

    @rustelekom said: the brutal French state led by Macron

    Go back to your cave

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited August 2024

    @rsk yes, but I never called for mods now, did I?

    You seem seriously confused

  • rskrsk Member, Host Rep

    @emgh said:
    @rsk yes, but I never called for mods now, did I?

    You seem seriously confused

    All good. Not my monkeys, not my circus.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @rsk said:

    @emgh said:
    @rsk yes, but I never called for mods now, did I?

    You seem seriously confused

    All good. Not my monkeys, not my circus.

    Well, sure seems that way when he tells someone to shut up, and then when someone replies and tells him to do the same, you quote them and ask mods to take action…

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  • xvpsxvps Member

    @rsk said:

    @emgh said:
    @rsk yes, but I never called for mods now, did I?

    You seem seriously confused

    All good. Not my monkeys, not my circus.

    Then, stop derailing the thread.

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  • rskrsk Member, Host Rep

    @xvps said:

    @rsk said:

    @emgh said:
    @rsk yes, but I never called for mods now, did I?

    You seem seriously confused

    All good. Not my monkeys, not my circus.

    Then, stop derailing the thread.

    Sure.

  • LeviLevi Member

    @rsk said: Why is everyone attacking @rustelekom ?

    He is ruzzian propaganda troll. A standard unit. He provokes, he knows what buttons to push to escalate discussion on his agenda and derail topic. The best thing anyone can do is just to ignore him.

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  • @xaoc said:

    @rsk said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @rustelekom said:
    Drivers in Canada, people who had nothing to do with the American Capitol, and people who criticized the grand lies about the COVID-19 pandemic and vaccination, continue to be imprisoned and lose their businesses and professions due to similar accusations and lies.

    Therefore, shut up and keep quiet.

    You're not even Canadian or know wtf you're talking about. You can STFU. Pathetic little man.

    Why is everyone attacking @rustelekom ?

    Are you trying to protect him because he's a 'provider,' or because he's a putler-lover™ spreading his ruzzian propaganda by spreading hate about other countries and people?

    1. Not hating someone is not equal someone's-lover.
    2. putler-lover™ - it's called labeling
    3. ruzzian - you are spreading hate.
  • kaitkait Member

    @stefeman said: How are we different from russians then?

    On censorship level there is no difference at all, on other levels its a huge difference.

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  • @mikei said:

    @xaoc said:

    @rsk said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @rustelekom said:
    Drivers in Canada, people who had nothing to do with the American Capitol, and people who criticized the grand lies about the COVID-19 pandemic and vaccination, continue to be imprisoned and lose their businesses and professions due to similar accusations and lies.

    Therefore, shut up and keep quiet.

    You're not even Canadian or know wtf you're talking about. You can STFU. Pathetic little man.

    Why is everyone attacking @rustelekom ?

    Are you trying to protect him because he's a 'provider,' or because he's a putler-lover™ spreading his ruzzian propaganda by spreading hate about other countries and people?

    1. Not hating someone is not equal someone's-lover.
    2. putler-lover™ - it's called labeling
    3. ruzzian - you are spreading hate.

    Labelling doesn't mean it's wrong.

  • kaitkait Member

    @10thHouse said: Labelling doesn't mean it's wrong.

    I know I am always right :)

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  • My point of view, he start to collaborated. Depende if he feeling more Russian or France

  • gonna buy few servers and domains from Russian companies because of the annoying Ukrainian retards, Is there anyway I can donate directly to the war? i remember there was a site for the Ukranians when the war started

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  • LeviLevi Member

    @elite0128 said: Is there anyway I can donate directly to the war

    Of course! You may go to front line and donate any amount you desire...

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  • elite0128elite0128 Member
    edited August 2024

    @Levi said:

    @elite0128 said: Is there anyway I can donate directly to the war

    Of course! You may go to front line and donate any amount you desire...

    are you doing that? you like to mention the war every-time Russia is brought up and seem the be very passionate about this issue, but are you just going to talk about it online or join the frontline?

    Its also very interesting that none of you moral citizens of the world want to speak up when other wars or war torn counties are brought up. I wonder what is the difference between Ukranians and the victims of American imperialism.

    Is it because Russia was the aggressor or is there some other worse reason?

    edit: ofcourse the mods didnt care when it was already derailed with anti russian sentiment, but somebody defends russia? now thats real derailment and the conversation needs to be shut down!!!

  • LET Stop Derailing Threads Every Time You Can Force Your Russia vs Ukraine Argument Challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

  • DPDP Administrator, The Domain Guy

    Please stay on topic.

    If you need to talk/mention/discuss about Russia and Ukraine, there's a thread for that.

    Thank you.

  • JeDaYoshiJeDaYoshi Member
    edited August 2024

    Reposting from Telegram Info English (unofficial news channel):

    Pavel Durov Suspected of 12 Crimes

    “Novaya Gazeta Europe” has obtained access (https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2024/08/26/v-prokurature-parizha-zaiavili-chto-durov-podozrevaetsia-v-12-prestupleniiakh-news) to a press release from the French prosecutor's office, highlighting several of the alleged offenses:

    • Complicity in administering an online platform for conducting illegal transactions by organized groups.
    • Refusal to provide law enforcement agencies with information or documents required for investigation and prosecution.
    • Complicity in storing child pornography.
    • Complicity in drug distribution.
    • Complicity in cybercrimes.
    • Complicity in fraud committed by organized criminal groups.

    TASS, a Russian news agency, reports (https://t.me/tass_agency/268578) that the investigation against Pavel Durov began on July 8. According to the agency's information, the entrepreneur may remain in custody until August 28.

    Emmanuel Macron was the first from the entire French government to issue an official statement (https://fxtwitter.com/EmmanuelMacron/status/1828077245606342672), emphasizing the independence of the judiciary system and stressing that Pavel Durov's arrest is not politically motivated but is in accordance with the legal framework protecting citizens' rights.

    In response to a request from RIA Novosti, the European Commission said (https://t.me/rian_ru/258774) they are monitoring the situation and are ready to cooperate with French authorities. The United Nations does not yet have (https://t.me/rian_ru/258787) sufficient information. Previously, in response to an inquiry from TASS news agency, the European Commission declined (https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/66cc5abf9a79475d8db3b109) to comment: “This is a national investigation, we do not intend to comment on it, you should refer to the French authorities.”

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