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Looking for options - VPS/dedicated
Good morning,
1st post here, though have bought several servers from vendors over the months I have been watching the posts here. My latest is from a vendor in Germany, and support leaves a bit to be desired over there.
I currently run my homelab on a few mini pc's, a Dell Optiplex 5050 with a i5-7700T and 16GB of RAM, and a CWWK 5105 CPU with 32GB of RAM. I run Proxmox on these nodes.
I have a project that I am looking to setup, where I want to host a proxmox node in the "cloud". (Cloud is nothing more than someone else's servers). Requirements are not huge as I will primarily run docker containers there, alongside with some management VM's. This box will also be used as a off-site backup in one of the VM's. I will probably need at least 2 IPv4 addresses. A built in edge firewall in the vendor's software would be preferred, as I have had issues with Proxmox ufw implementation in the past. I live in Northern Arkansas, USA so that gives you some geographical location. As long as I can download/upload to this server at near my line internet speed, I will be happy.
My internet is a 100Mbs symmetrical (up & down) connection. I am looking to spend around $20-40/month, though less would always be preferred. I don't need NVme/SSD drives, as spinning rust would do the job just fine.
Requirements:
CPU: 4+ Core
RAM: 16+GB (prefer 32GB).
HDD: At least 2 separate drives, at least total storage of 6+ TB
GPU: None
Network: 100+ Mb (shared or dedicated, doesn't matter, as long as I can get to it,).
EDIT: I have come across ovhcloud, but have read some negative things about them. Anyone have positive insights? Any pros/cons as to why I should not look into their eco lineup? I have contacted their support with questions, and they answer quickly and seem to want to help resolve issues.
Thanks in advance for your insights.
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https://www.netdynamics24.com/client/order.php?step=1&productGroup=18
Outside of Hetzner (which I'd imagine you're referring to) you're likely going to need to increase your budget a good bit.
@chair15 You could look into Hetzner. OVH is decent too but they've never been known for their support. First response is fast but resolutions can take a very long time.
I've had a better experience with resellers of both personally.
What would be a more realistic budget then? I have looked at Hetzner as well.
Any resellers that you can recommend?
I'd say you'd be in the $60-$90 price range with the providers around here. You might get a "good deal" somewhere - but it's only a good deal for you if you have proper support and great uptime. You obviously don't want to jump out of the frying pan and into the fire
Don't hesitate to post up any offers that you find appealing. I promise you, if there's something to be said, someone will say it.
Would it be more price efficient if I were to split there all out, rather than going the AIO (all in one) approach?
For example, I could use Hetzner Storage Box (5TB) for my backup needs, and then would have significantly less need for storage for the remote Proxmox node. My nodes at home are running off of a 512GB SSD, but as this remote host would be lower impact, an HDD would suffice.
https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box/
Honestly, not really. Most places are pretty aggressive with their pricing (it's a seriously saturated market) In addition to that, if anything goes wrong, you're going to have to deal with Hetzner support. Given support (or less than stellar support) is the main reason you'd be leaving your current provider, it'd make sense to avoid moving all of your stuff just to run into a similar situation.
If you're able to roll with 5TB instead of the original ask (HDD: At least 2 separate drives, at least total storage of 6+ TB) that'll help you find something less expensive - but you'll still be sitting well above your target budget.
Aside from all of this - Proxmox on an HDD sucks. Proxmox with multiple VMs on a HDD sucks even worse.
I'd highly suggest,at a minimum, getting an SSD drive to hold your Proxmox installation. The drive doesn't need to be large but your overall experience will be leaps and bounds better than using a straight HDD.
@host_c and @layer7
See, that is where I enjoy these conversations. I have never looked into the VPS/VDS/Dedicated scene before, and have so far gotten a mixed bag on providers. 1 excellent, some neutral, but the latest one, not so much.
I have been running my own in-house servers at my business and personally at home for well over a decade, so as long as I can get the machine up and running, I can take care of the rest.
In all reality, my immediate minimum needs for backups at the moment are around 1.8 TB, but it has been fairly steadily growing, and I am foreseeing another growth spurt here as the school year will start ramping up. The reason I had mentioned 2x drives is to have some redundancy through RAID 1. I know it is not a backup, because this would be the backup. Multiply that by at least 3TB drives, gets me to the total of 6TB Raw. That is probably what I should have said in my original post.
So Hetzner doesn't appear to have the greatest support, OVHCloud seems Neutral, as I have not heard anything super positive, but read some negative.
I will check them out. Thank you.
@chair15
Check this out https://deals.solidseovps.com
Anyone have any experience with Nocix? They are based out of Kansas City.
https://www.nocix.net/dedicated/
I did check this out, but it is not US based, so not sure how the latency will be. I did not see a looking glass to be able to test it.
Been solid for me
It does feel awesome to make that leap from homelab to the internet frontier
Even better when you can do it with a company that actually values you as a client, rather than just seeing you as a customer number. There's a ton of options available here but if you're looking for good support and solid uptime, those options dwindle down to about a handful of providers.
Personally, I'm not a fan of Hetzner or OVH. My issues specifically were related to getting failing hardware replaced and just simple things getting resolved in a timely manner (i.e: VPS down - unable to start from control panel) 6-8 hours for a reply and another hour or two for action to actually be taken. Also not a fan of having to send in your ID for verification - that's a deal breaker for me.
On the other hand, there are a few providers here that are 1 man shows but their support and resolution time is unparalleled compared to the "big guys."
Just like everything else in the world - if something seems too good to be true, figure out what the catch is. Might get a great deal but if the support is shoddy/non-existent you're just making a lateral move instead of ascending to where you need to be. It's worth getting with an established provider because if you haven't been around here long, you'll see how fast a company can go from the top of the world to holding a cardboard sign in less than a day and unfortunately for their clients, they're screwed.
Given how important this is going to be for you, peace of mind is priceless.
And that is the key. I have several vps instances that run small websites with Vultr, and have been very happy with their support. In my case they have gone beyond their responsibilities to make sure everything has stayed running.
Hi,
if one additional storage disk is fine for you:
Anything from here: https://layer7.net/cloud-server
If you need ( why ever ) to have the storage space spread across multiple disks then:
https://layer7.net/storage-server
But all disks are anyway already N+1 redundant. So you dont need to build redundancy yourself.
Just since i am curious: What german provider do you refer to, when you mention lacking of support?
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