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how you guys handle windows licenses - Virtfusion

I plan to use Virtfusion as hypervisor and run some windows VM for clients.

My question is how do you guys handle windows licenses?
Must i subscribe to Microsoft SPLA or get from third party hosting provider?

I tried to get advice from virtfusion discord but not very helpful.

Comments

  • xHostsxHosts Member, Patron Provider

    How many VM's are we talking, will they be sold or just private use?
    What version of windows do you plan to use?

  • @xHosts said:
    How many VM's are we talking, will they be sold or just private use?
    What version of windows do you plan to use?

    not many, around 15-20
    will be sold to clients, it's a public host
    windows server 2016/2019/2022

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited August 2024

    @bananaEgg said:
    I plan to use Virtfusion as hypervisor and run some windows VM for clients.

    My question is how do you guys handle windows licenses?
    Must i subscribe to Microsoft SPLA or get from third party hosting provider?

    I tried to get advice from virtfusion discord but not very helpful.

    Just support Linux OS in auto install OS
    and allow ISO based OS install by the customer

  • xHostsxHosts Member, Patron Provider

    Options maybe obtaining keys (quick google search) for a few pound each if you include a licence or tell customers bring their own licence

  • @xHosts said:
    Options maybe obtaining keys (quick google search) for a few pound each if you include a license or tell customers bring their own license

    these are not valid keys from VPS licensing point of view

  • Free trial gang + they can rearm 5 (or 6?) times

    Thanked by 1yoursunny
  • jfreak53jfreak53 Member, Patron Provider

    Legally, SPLA licensing, but decent amount of hoops with Microsoft. Gotta be a datacenter, hosting provider, noc, etc. to qualify.

  • @BilohBucks said:
    Free trial gang + they can rearm 5 (or 6?) times

    True, but from provider licensing compliance point of view … officially only support Linux OS + self iso install by customer

    Thanked by 1mustafamw3
  • AdvinAdvin Member, Host Rep
    edited August 2024

    @xHosts said:
    Options maybe obtaining keys (quick google search) for a few pound each if you include a licence or tell customers bring their own licence

    From what I understand, those licenses sold on dodgy websites like G2A are not technically allowed as per the Microsoft EULA. If you are doing this, then you might as well just pirate the OS.

  • xHostsxHosts Member, Patron Provider
    edited August 2024

    @Advin said:

    @xHosts said:
    Options maybe obtaining keys (quick google search) for a few pound each if you include a licence or tell customers bring their own licence

    From what I understand, those licenses sold on dodgy websites like G2A are not technically allowed as per the Microsoft EULA. If you are doing this, then you might as well just pirate the OS.

    This is mearly a suggestion, maybe the same can be said for rearm a trial multiple times too, I am sure that would break the Microsoft EULA ?

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited August 2024

    @xHosts said:
    @Advin said:

    @xHosts said:
    Options maybe obtaining keys (quick google search) for a few pound each if you include a licence or tell customers bring their own licence

    From what I understand, those licenses sold on dodgy websites like G2A are not technically allowed as per the Microsoft EULA. If you are doing this, then you might as well just pirate the OS.

    This is mearly a suggestion, maybe the same can be said for rearm a trial multiple times too, I am sure that would break the Microsoft EULA ?

    As a provider, you can not install (or provide auto install templates) evaluation version of Windows OS for your customers.

    Evaluation version can not be used for production purposes.

    Sharing my opinion based on my understanding

    Thanked by 2bananaEgg mustafamw3
  • @dev_vps said:

    @BilohBucks said:
    Free trial gang + they can rearm 5 (or 6?) times

    True, but from provider licensing compliance point of view … officially only support Linux OS + self iso install by customer

    To me, this seems like the most logical route.

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited August 2024

    @bananaEgg said:
    I plan to use Virtfusion as hypervisor and run some windows VM for clients.

    My question is how do you guys handle windows licenses?
    Must i subscribe to Microsoft SPLA or get from third party hosting provider?

    I tried to get advice from virtfusion discord but not very helpful.

    Two important things from technical point of view -
    1. single core GB6 score > 1000
    2. Has at least 2x vCPU cores and 4 GB memory

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    I've never played with Windows Server after 2008.
    I want to evaluate Windows Server on a VPS.
    I promise not to use it for production.
    Why can't I?

  • Petey_LongPetey_Long Barred
    edited August 2024

    @yoursunny said:
    I've never played with Windows Server after 2008.
    I want to evaluate Windows Server on a VPS.
    I promise not to use it for production.
    Why can't I?

    Nothing's stopping you (outside of not being able to mount a custom ISO)

    What you're asking vs what OP is asking are two separate issues.

    If you do it completely on your own - that's on you. If a provider is helping "facilitate" (by providing a template) - that's a different story.

    As someone's who's company has been on the business end of a Microsoft audit, it's not worth it. Their fingers are cold and they don't bring lube.

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited August 2024

    @yoursunny said:
    I've never played with Windows Server after 2008.
    I want to evaluate Windows Server on a VPS.
    I promise not to use it for production.
    Why can't I?

    of course, you can
    Evaluation version is meant for learning and evaluation.

    I use Microsoft Azure VM for production deployment.

    @yoursunny
    I am slowly working on Linux OS skills.

  • Running Windows 11 Enterprise OS on
    1 vCore / 1 GB memory VPS

  • hyperhostsolutionshyperhostsolutions Member, Patron Provider

    @bananaEgg said:
    I plan to use Virtfusion as hypervisor and run some windows VM for clients.

    My question is how do you guys handle windows licenses?
    Must i subscribe to Microsoft SPLA or get from third party hosting provider?

    I tried to get advice from virtfusion discord but not very helpful.

    Either be part of the microsoft license agreement (Most MSP's are) or take your own risk and if microsoft come for you be prepared to have deep pockets

    Thanked by 1bananaEgg
  • @BilohBucks said:
    Free trial gang + they can rearm 5 (or 6?) times

    gang! how to chance screen resolution in trial mode? ;)

  • @hyperblast said:

    @BilohBucks said:
    Free trial gang + they can rearm 5 (or 6?) times

    gang! how to chance screen resolution in trial mode? ;)

    Check RDP options ... you can pick any screen resolution for the rdp session

    Thanked by 1hyperblast
  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @hyperhostsolutions said:
    Either be part of the microsoft license agreement (Most MSP's are) or take your own risk and if microsoft come for you be prepared to have deep pockets deadpool

    Fixed that for you.

    Thanked by 1hyperhostsolutions
  • wdmgwdmg Member, LIR

    @xHosts said:
    @Advin said:

    @xHosts said:
    Options maybe obtaining keys (quick google search) for a few pound each if you include a licence or tell customers bring their own licence

    From what I understand, those licenses sold on dodgy websites like G2A are not technically allowed as per the Microsoft EULA. If you are doing this, then you might as well just pirate the OS.

    This is mearly a suggestion, maybe the same can be said for rearm a trial multiple times too, I am sure that would break the Microsoft EULA ?

    Microsoft EULA has no issue with the rearms up to 3 times I believe it is. No matter how many rearms you can do, MSFT lets you do that up to the limitation they set legally, so it's compliant.

  • @dev_vps said:

    @xHosts said:
    Options maybe obtaining keys (quick google search) for a few pound each if you include a license or tell customers bring their own license

    these are not valid keys from VPS licensing point of view

    So these are not valid keys. I always wondered. They seem to work and they have a plausible excuse .
    https://www.cjs-cdkeys.com/search.php?search_query=windows&x=0&y=0

  • @jperkins said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @xHosts said:
    Options maybe obtaining keys (quick google search) for a few pound each if you include a license or tell customers bring their own license

    these are not valid keys from VPS licensing point of view

    So these are not valid keys. I always wondered. They seem to work and they have a plausible excuse .
    https://www.cjs-cdkeys.com/search.php?search_query=windows&x=0&y=0

    Working keys does not necessarily mean properly licensed keys

  • used keys are allowed to sell and buy in the EU(dSSR)

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