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Seller with GSL in Amsterdam or London or Frankfurt with BGP

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  • VexeliaVexelia Member
    edited August 2024

    @bobert said:

    @Vexelia said: You might be interested in some of @RoyaleHosting offerings. Just to clarify, RoyaleHosting no longer uses GSL, but their own in-house multi-terabit scale protection that in ours and many others' experiences outperforms way better than GSL.

    I can't use RoyaleHosting because they have no pops in APAC.

    The sole purpose of me getting GSL in Europe is because they won't allow you to turn off liberty global. If I activate GSL in Asia, it sends people using Liberty Global in Europe to Asia unless I have GSL in Europe.

    @cu_olly said: Maybe Misaka in AMS? I know they have DataCamp and I think, from memory, they have GSL via Hyonix.

    They don't have GSL in any European pops and Hyonix is only in NJ.

    RoyaleHosting will have a Singapore POP in early 2025 and, after that, a London POP shortly after.

  • VexeliaVexelia Member
    edited August 2024

    @bobert said:
    Actually never mind, probably can't use GSL. It appears to have really bad routing with Charter.

    Hop IP Address Reverse DNS ASN RTT 1
    1 192.168.68.1 1.349
    2 75.139.96.1 syn-075-139-096-001.res.spectrum.com 20115 12.397
    3 96.34.133.86 lag-61.dtr02sfflva.netops.charter.com 10.182
    4 96.34.93.104 lag-23.crr01hlrgnc.netops.charter.com 19.683
    5 96.34.95.68 lag-404.crr02spbgsc.netops.charter.com 35.221
    6 96.34.2.50 lag-808.bbr01spbgsc.netops.charter.com 32.129
    7 96.34.0.184 lag-804.bbr01atlnga.netops.charter.com 40.505
    8 96.34.0.37 lag-806.bbr01blvlil.netops.charter.com 64.06
    9 96.34.0.14 lag-3.bbr01olvemo.netops.charter.com 63.732
    10 96.34.0.144 lag-1.bbr01dnvrco.netops.charter.com 86.512
    11 96.34.0.2 lag-2.bbr02snjsca.netops.charter.com 123.652
    12 96.34.0.74 lag-800.bbr01snjsca.netops.charter.com 109.288
    13 96.34.1.49 lag-819.bbr01sttlwa.netops.charter.com 139.505
    14 96.34.3.29 lag-801.prr01sttlwa.netops.charter.com 124.138
    15 * *
    16 206.148.25.14 po300.sea-drtsea10-cr1.globalsecurelayer.com 7578 115.912
    17 206.148.25.116 e8.chi-eqxch1-bb1.globalsecurelayer.com 7578 115.848
    18 206.148.25.43 e53.nyc-eqxny2-bb1.globalsecurelayer.com 7578 109.918
    19 160.202.167.1 137409 110.219

    Correct me if I am wrong, but did you not already have a full-blown conversation on this on the LET Discord a month or two ago?

  • bobertbobert Member
    edited August 2024

    Probably? I thought I needed it before, but I managed to fix the routing problem with PCCW. Then I just got null routed because a tiny 300 mbit ddos at my vultr node in australia got vultr to null me.

    @Vexelia said: RoyaleHosting will have a Singapore POP in early 2025

    What about australia?

  • @bobert said:
    Probably? I thought I needed it before, but I managed to fix the routing problem with PCCW. Then I just got null routed because a tiny 300 mbit ddos at my vultr node in australia got vultr to null me.

    @Vexelia said: RoyaleHosting will have a Singapore POP in early 2025

    What about australia?

    Stan has not mentioned anything about a potential Australia POP, but you can expect it someday.

  • @cu_olly said: Your typing and my screenshot do not correlate. Anyway.

    So I just asked misaka about their link with hyonix in Amsterdam and they said this:

    Sorry, we do not announce customer prefixes to Hyonix and have no plans to add GSL in Europe/North America at this time given the increasing cross-connect price.

  • OhJohnOhJohn Member
    edited August 2024

    @bobert said: and have no plans to add GSL

    Thank you Misaka, @aveline at least someone acting with sanity here.

  • @OhJohn said: Thank you Misaka, @aveline at least someone acting with sanity here.

    what is insane about that?

  • Because 200% of the routing problems I had in the last 12 month are a result of providers using them as upstream/transit or peer with them.

    I do not want Sydney-Sydney routes via Perth, nor Seattle - Boardman routes via LAX nor Phoenix - Sao Paulo routes via Tokyo. Thank you, no.

    Don't get me wrong, they may have a good product in ddos protection for gamers, but the last game I played on a computer was before the internet existed...

  • @OhJohn said: I do not want Sydney-Sydney routes via Perth, nor Seattle - Boardman routes via LAX nor Phoenix - Sao Paulo routes via Tokyo. Thank you, no.

    That is interesting, I did not see that many problems but I did not do a comprehensive check.

    I did notice that they had scenic routing with charter which makes up a huge percentage of US users and if they had problems with that they probably have problems elsewhere. But it is interesting that they even have problems in their home turf of Australia.

    And routing like that would be a problem for gamers as well.

  • At least someone from their team is on LET as well and they are somewhat responsive to these problems.

    But whenever I had a crazy routing in the last year it was 95% them (the other 5% ovh or sub-sea cable cuts in Asia)

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