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Upgrade from ServaRICA

I think this is a really good deal, but i'm not geting the speeds I was hoping for, assuming because i'm in NZ and the server is in Montral.

Fine as a PBS remote sync backup server, but slooooow to NZ. I dread needing to rely on it for full restore... I would take days.

I have 300mbps down and a restore was crawling at about 20mbps. ~200ms latency

I don't want to pay much more, but willing to if I can get better transfer speeds

this is what I have right now - is there a better option anyone can offer - closer to New Zealand? Thinking Singapore or West Coast perhaps?

Polar Bear Storage Offer
2 CPU cores(Shared)
2 GB RAM
2TB disk
12TB limit on 1gbps
1x IPv4

$5.00USD Monthly

Comments

  • hard to get this price in asia generally. highest chance to be in Singapore, although maybe Australia may be better in terms of latency.

  • @cybertech said:
    hard to get this price in asia generally. highest chance to be in Singapore, although maybe Australia may be better in terms of latency.

    Thank you... West coast is definately a possible option.

    Would be great to have some suggestions.

  • sydney would be awesome. Don't need a lot of data transfer.

  • Australia would be certainly better but it also depends on which ISP. Not all ISPs in NZ route through Aussie to Singapore. Might end up taking the very scenic route of NZ to USA then Japan and then Singapore.

    I did have a ServaRICA VDS until recently when I started the process of moving everything to one Host hatch server in Japan (latency at a sweet 165ms have yet to test speeds)

    Do you know which ISP you are with OP?
    Have you done any tuning as well?

  • @MaxTakeba said:
    Australia would be certainly better but it also depends on which ISP. Not all ISPs in NZ route through Aussie to Singapore. Might end up taking the very scenic route of NZ to USA then Japan and then Singapore.

    I did have a ServaRICA VDS until recently when I started the process of moving everything to one Host hatch server in Japan (latency at a sweet 165ms have yet to test speeds)

    Do you know which ISP you are with OP?
    Have you done any tuning as well?

    2Degrees in NZ... CGNAT so I route everything through Oracle VPS in Sydney, which generally improves things. I can go full tilt with speed tests this way.

  • Hmmm... You're adding additional complexity and other issues with that Oracle machine.

    We're your tests with or without the Oracle machine?

    2degrees is mostly OK with international routing... Although I've seen better (and worse).

    What about tuning on the sending side? Have you done speed tests from the Rica box as well?

    (For some background I used to work at an ISP, won't name the one for obvious reasons.)

  • Direct to servarica...

    2 12 ms 12 ms 11 ms v3.cpcak3-bng1.tranzpeer.net [101.98.0.96]
    3 12 ms 10 ms 12 ms 192.168.255.252
    4 11 ms 11 ms 12 ms 192.168.255.253
    5 12 ms 14 ms 13 ms default-rdns.vocus.co.nz [101.98.5.248]
    6 31 ms 20 ms 21 ms as9790.bdr01.akl03.akl.nz.vocus.network [175.45.102.238]
    7 26 ms * * be1000.bdr01.akl03.akl.nz.vocus.network [175.45.102.237]
    8 144 ms 144 ms 146 ms be200.bdr04.lax01.ca.us.vocus.network [114.31.199.72]
    9 188 ms 188 ms 187 ms 208.115.137.108
    10 206 ms 208 ms 206 ms hu0-0-1-1.pe01.350eastcermakrd01.ord.beanfield.com [199.167.152.108]
    11 207 ms 207 ms 208 ms et10-1.lsr03.151frontstw01.yyz.beanfield.com [199.167.152.106]
    12 207 ms 210 ms 207 ms et3-1.lsr04.151frontstw01.yyz.beanfield.com [207.66.123.238]
    13 * * * Request timed out.
    14 * * * Request timed out.
    15 207 ms 206 ms 205 ms et33-1.lsr01.800squarevictoriast01.yul.beanfield.com [207.66.123.93]
    16 209 ms 207 ms 207 ms hu0-0-1-0.pe09.800squarevictoriast01.yul.beanfield.com [199.167.154.179]
    17 206 ms 206 ms 206 ms 198-98-100-14.beanfield.net [198.98.100.14]
    18 207 ms 210 ms 206 ms ping.servarica.net [162.250.188.171]

    Oracle does add complexity, but I can achieve close to my upload via my Oracle vps.

    Seems only the download that is slow (serverica --> NZ)... this is better when router via syd. Direct (tracert above), slow as hell.

  • roobiedooroobiedoo Member
    edited July 2024

    I'd consdered running the whole thing over tailscale to overcome cgnat, but figured that's only going to slow things down.

  • I don't think you'll get better unless you go somewhere else or you route somewhere else.

    Also something tells me the issue crops up the moment you leave the 2degrees network (they have a PoP in LA for direct hand overs into the major parties, it might be at that point where it falls apart).

    Anyway I don't think it will get better so I don't know how much else I can add myself (I am with Quic or Vetta Online) to this thread. I won't lie, uploading a few gigs over SFTP was inconsistent, but it's long distance TCP traffic and it's over SFTP. Anything can happen and it will slow down.

    Thanked by 1roobiedoo
  • @roobiedoo said:
    I'd consdered running the whole thing over tailscale to overcome cgnat, but figured that's only going to slow things down.

    You'll likely get relayed and tailscale over relay for me was less than 10mbps. It felt awful.... Dunno what it would be like over 2degrees.

  • OK. thanks man - appreciate your input. Like i said - data is backed up local and remote there at the storage VPS, so if it all goes to shit, i have a backup... just a long long road :-)

    I'll check host hatch SGP to see if thats any better.

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    Check with @hosthatch they have Australia servers, both compute and storage.

    Thanked by 1roobiedoo
  • See: https://lowendtalk.com/post/quote/196567/Comment_3994050

    @hosthatch said:
    We should have some offers soon if you can wait a week or so :)

    I'm not sure if there will be storage options in APAC or Australia but it's worth the wait.

    Thanked by 1roobiedoo
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