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Which network A or B is better?

bustersgbustersg Member

Network A
14 hops, 200ms, some "request timed out." during ping test
Network B
16 hops, 184ms, TWICE as many "request timed out." during ping test

My intrusion tells me network A is better due to lesser "request timed out" but access to both site A and B loads just fine.

Comments

  • SwiftnodeSwiftnode Member, Patron Provider, LIR

    Request timed out in your route means absolutely nothing. It's just a device that doesn't respond to ICMP.

    Thanked by 1host_c
  • IdlingIdling Member
    edited July 2024

    @Swiftnode said:
    Request timed out in your route means absolutely nothing. It's just a device that doesn't respond to ICMP.

    If a device doesn't respond to ICMP, then all packets will be timed out, only some would indicate some kind of problems.

  • @Idling said:

    @Swiftnode said:
    Request timed out in your route means absolutely nothing. It's just a device that doesn't respond to ICMP.

    If a device doesn't respond to ICMP, then all packets will be timed out, only some would indicate some kind of problems.

    you can have ICMP set to a very low priority. Some pings get through, most are dropped go make way for a final traffic.

  • tenjitenji Member

    you could try tcp traceroute / tcp ping.
    some network also drop (manipulate) icmp but tcp & udp are fine.

  • IdlingIdling Member

    @fluffernutter said:

    @Idling said:

    @Swiftnode said:
    Request timed out in your route means absolutely nothing. It's just a device that doesn't respond to ICMP.

    If a device doesn't respond to ICMP, then all packets will be timed out, only some would indicate some kind of problems.

    you can have ICMP set to a very low priority. Some pings get through, most are dropped go make way for a final traffic.

    That might be possible, but in most common scenarios , especially for someone's normal vps, timed out indeed means something wrong in the network.

  • cloudblastcloudblast Member, Patron Provider
    edited July 2024

    the A seems to be a better choice over all.

    less hops means fewer points of failure and packet loss is generally more important and noticeable than a 15ms latency difference.

    Anyway depends a lot on the usage, if you need the lowest possible latency, then go for the B

  • JoshRJoshR Member, Patron Provider

    @Idling said:
    That might be possible, but in most common scenarios , especially for someone's normal vps, timed out indeed means something wrong in the network.

    Lumen is notorious for dropping ICMP traffic.
    So in reality hops don't mean much in that case.
    Let alone in OPs case. Only 2 more hops aint going to make a major difference and in their case was lower overall response times.

  • LeviLevi Member

    Latency is a king here. Go with lower latency. Less hops only mean easier debugging for network failures, nothing more

  • Thanks for all comments, in the end i refunded service in Network A and kept B.
    Despite more freq packet loss (im using PingPlotter software), both control panel somehow load at same speed as in no 404 or infinite loading etc. Hence i went with latency as the final choice.

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